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    • Share your Suggestions!   01/01/2016

      Greetings, Do you want to help Black Desert be the best game possible? We are constantly looking for ways to improve the game, your feedback and suggestions are a key part of this process.  Everyone is welcome to visit our Suggestion Forum and share your thoughts with the BDO Team and the community.  Below I will give some advice on how to present your suggestions to ensure you are heard. How to make sure your contribution will be taken into account: Be precise and constructive.Take the time to explain your reasoning behind a feeling or a suggestion.Check if the suggestion you have in mind has already been shared. If it's the case, you can reply to it.Ask other players or friends you know what they think of your post before you click the "Submit" button.Be realistic. To add content requires a long time, but don't feel discouraged if it takes time to see changes.  I want to thank you in advance for any suggestions provided, and we look forward to reading your contributions!
    • Forum Rules   04/24/2016

      1. Inappropriate or infringing content Kakao Games Europe does not vouch for or warrant the accuracy, completeness or usefulness of any message, article, link or comment posted by other users in the Services, and shall not be responsible for the contents of any such message, article or comment.The messages express the views of the author of the message, not necessarily the views of Kakao Games Europe. The User can report any violation of the services policies by clicking on the report icon on the Forums.The User shall not use the Service(s) to post any material which is knowingly false and/or defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually offensive, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise violating of any applicable law.The User shall not use the Service(s) to post any advertisement, link or information regarding content which infringes the Agreement.The User shall not post any copyrighted material unless the copyright is owned or licensed by the User or by Kakao Games Europe.The user shall not promote illegal or illicit activities including cheating and the use of exploits.  2. Naming policy The User shall not use on the Website, the Forums and in the Game character names, family names, guild names, clan names and/or nicknames that are:Vulgar, abusive, hateful, racist, defamatory, threatening, pornographic or sexually orientated;Referring to inappropriate parts of the human body or bodily functions;Referring to drugs or illegal activities;Related to the Nazi regime;Referring to figures or activities of religious relevanceRelated to political regimes or personalities involved or suspected of violation of human rights;Promoting violence, ethnically or national hatred;Impersonating an existing person, including Kakao Games Europe officials Violating the intellectual or industrial rights of a third party, including trademarks.The use of alternate spelling, for instance by replacing letter with number, in order to violate the above mentioned rules shall be considered a violation of the naming policy.The user will not create additional forum accounts in order to bypass any warning, suspension, ban or purport themselves as someone else.  3. Threats to the provision of the Services The User shall not make threats or attempt to disturb the provision of the Services in any way including spamming, denial of service attacks, performing actions whether alone or as a group, on the Service(s), that would affect the performances of the Service(s) or the experience of other end-users of the Services.Kakao Games Europe reserves the right to take any actions necessary deemed necessary to maintain the integrity of the Service(s).  4. Account sharing The User is not allowed to share the credentials of the User’s Account with anyone.Notwithstanding the above, Kakao Games Europe may request from you the name of your Account for events or in order to provide you customer support. However, Kakao Games Europe will never ask you for your Account password.  5. Violation of law The User undertakes to respect the legislation of the country from which the User launches the Game and accesses the Services.  6. Behavioral rules and guidelines 6.1. Thread bumping The User shall not bump own threads. Replies to own threads with the sole purpose of moving said thread to the top of the forum can lead to a warning with the possible consequence of losing writing permissions on http://forum.blackdesertonline.comIf the User wants to add more information to a post, the “EDIT” function can be used. It is permitted to reply to own posts once every 48h as long as the follow up post adds new and meaningful information related to the topic.Replies to other users posts with the sole purpose of increasing it's visibility are also considered thread bumping as well as spam and will be actioned accordingly.Normal replies to other users are not affected by the above mentioned rules.6.2. Posting Etiquette The user shall not post in all capital letters, use excessive punctuation, flamboyant fonts etc. to draw attention to its posts.Using the words Kakao, Kakao Games, Pearl Abyss or any Kakao Games Europe member’s name in a topic title is frowned on.The user shall not use misspelled versions of inappropriate words to circumvent the swear word filter. Doing so shows the User was fully aware of the nature of the word and it will be reflected in any potential penalties.6.3. Interacting with other users Post made with the sole purpose of upsetting or angering other users are not allowed. All posts have to be made in the spirit of mutual respect. The User shall not attack or insult other users for having different opinions or for making statements the User disagrees with. Challenging the opinions or statements of other users is permitted, attacking the person holding them is not. If the User finds the actions of other users in breach of the forum rules, the Report Function should be used in order to bring the case to the attention of the moderator team. The case will then be reviewed and appropriate actions will be taken. The user shall not "name and shame" other users. If a user is suspected to have broken Terms of Service / Terms of Use or taken part in fraudulent activities it should be reported directly to Kakao Games Europe by submit a support ticket.6.4. Quoting The User shall not quote posts who break the forum rules. The User is instead encouraged to use the Report Function in order to bring inappropriate content to the attention of the moderator team. Reported content will then be reviewed and appropriate actions will be taken.6.5. Abuse of Report Function The user shall not abuse the report function. The report function is intended to be used to make the moderation team aware of potential breaches of the forum rules not to get revenge on other users. If the User finds another user behaving inappropriate several times in a short time span, the Report Function can be used, highlighting one relevant post and indicating in the notes that other threads are affected too. If the User feels a thread is out of control, one post should be reported indicating in the notes the whole thread needs attention.  7. RP Forum Rules The RP Forums follow a more strict rule set. Any user wishing to participate on the RP forums is advised to review the specific rules before posting.  8. Appeal Forum Moderations Threads deemed inappropriate to a particular forum will be moved to a more appropriate forum or even removed completely. Threads that have been removed or closed are not to be re-posted. The User shall not discuss specific cases of moderated posts or disciplinary actions against users on the forum. If the User disagrees with an action taken by the moderator team, an e-mail should be send to forumdisputes@blackdesertonline.com. An uninvolved Community Manager will then review the case. 

      Ladies and gentlemen ATTENTION please:
      It's time to move into a new house!
        As previously announced, from now on IT WON'T BE POSSIBLE TO CREATE THREADS OR REPLY in the old forums. From now on the old forums will be readable only. If you need to move/copy/migrate any post/material from here, feel free to contact the staff in the new home. We’ll be waiting for you in the NEW Forums!


      *New features and amazing tools are waiting for you, even more is yet to come in the future.. just like world exploration in BDO leads to new possibilities.
      So don't be afraid about changes, click the link above and follow us!
      Enjoy and see you on the other side!  
    • WICHTIG: Das Forum zieht um!   05/04/2017

      Damen und Herren, wir bitten um Eure Aufmerksamkeit, es ist an der Zeit umzuziehen!
        Wie wir bereits angekündigt hatten, ist es ab sofort nicht mehr möglich, neue Diskussionen in diesem Forum zu starten. Um Euch Zeit zu geben, laufende Diskussionen abzuschließen, könnt Ihr noch für zwei Wochen in offenen Diskussionen antworten. Danach geht dieses Forum hier in den Ruhestand und das NEUE FORUM übernimmt vollständig.
      Das Forum hier bleibt allerdings erhalten und lesbar.   Neue und verbesserte Funktionen warten auf Euch im neuen Forum und wir arbeiten bereits an weiteren Erweiterungen.
      Wir sehen uns auf der anderen Seite!

      https://community.blackdesertonline.com/index.php Update:
      Wie angekündigt könen ab sofort in diesem Forum auch keine neuen Beiträge mehr veröffentlicht werden.
    • IMPORTANT: Le nouveau forum   05/04/2017

      Aventurières, aventuriers, votre attention s'il vous plaît, il est grand temps de déménager!
      Comme nous vous l'avons déjà annoncé précédemment, il n'est désormais plus possible de créer de nouveau sujet ni de répondre aux anciens sur ce bon vieux forum.
      Venez visiter le nouveau forum!
      De nouvelles fonctionnalités ainsi que de nouveaux outils vous attendent dès à présent et d'autres arriveront prochainement! N'ayez pas peur du changement et rejoignez-nous! Amusez-vous bien et a bientôt dans notre nouveau chez nous


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  1. Suh added a post in a topic Beta New Forum - the time has come!   

    Seeing how the whole thing is designed vertically, I would say they actually only test it on smartphones. It's barely readable on a normal screen, except if you like scrolling for every post in a thread.
    Edit: Oh well, the only usefull part of the header (the forum tree) is the only hidden part once you scroll. Just, why?
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  2. Suh added a post in a topic Monsters ignoring me?   

    Just had the same issue at basilisks (and I don't outlevel them): they simply stand idle but I can still damage and kill them. It lasted few minutes and after one or 2 rotations everything went back to normal.
    Edit: Calph 3 (EU) in case it matters
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  3. Suh added a post in a topic The economy is dieing   

    Because having everyone self-sufficient totally call for a good economy and won't emphasize the solo-experience at all.
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  4. Suh added a post in a topic A quand une interdiction des grosses guildes en node 1 ?   

    Même si le nombre est l'une des variables qui a le plus d'impact, ce n'est pas la seule.
    Du coup ça sera totalement arbitraire comme séparation. Au final ça empêchera les guildes plutôt casual de 100 membres mais 35 participants même pas full TRI de participer aux T1, et ça n'empêchera pas une guilde de 50 membres full boss TET avec 100% de participation et un éléphant opti de se pointer.
    Perso je trouverais ça plus intelligent de permettre aux guildes qui sont moins de 100 de former une entité temporaire le temps d'une node.
    Exemple simple: les guildes A, B et C ont respectivement 30, 30 et 40 membres. Elles s'allient (réellement) avant la node, ont 1 fort commun (avec la même limite de bâtiments que les guildes qui tag seules, histoire de ne pas profiter du nombre de cannons x3), n'ont pas de friendlyfire durant la node. Et si ils gagnent, les gains sont répartis par rapport au nombre de membres: 30% des taxes de la node pour A et B, 40% pour C.
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  5. Suh added a post in a topic Are the dev's or GM's going to acknowledge that half the channels are broken and completely unusable by the majority of the player base?   

    According to what? I never said every NW is the same, you just assumed it. For all I know, you could have a NW against nobody. But keep emphasizing your erratic experience.
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  6. Suh added a post in a topic Are the dev's or GM's going to acknowledge that half the channels are broken and completely unusable by the majority of the player base?   

    No it's not a point, it's kicking an open door by stating: I'm avoiding the problem by avoiding what create the problem. And it's not helpful either in our case. Else the solution is rather obvious: remove players from the game and you'll remove the lags. We really needed an IT guy to figure that. But, that's not a practical solution since the point of a MMO is to hold players.
    Commonly called empiricism. It's actually something necessary. Else I can just say cats do fly (see my last point).
    As I said, we can also remove the players from the server, but again, that defeats the purpose of the game. So as long as NW is a part of the game, it is expected to have a high amount of players clustered in a small region. And there's nothing wrong with it since it's a part of the game ruleset and not something we decided as players.
    I'm indeed questioning his experience, which is a fair stance considering it would be silly to say "I never had any lag in NW, though I only ever did one NW". It's a matter of sample in the end.
    And actually, if someone showed up saying: "I did my TET first try, therefore there's a 100% chance to TET", you would probably be the first speaking about how the size of the sample and the experience is important. You're just going against your own scientific reasoning for the sake of defending Plunge's argument process (which is mostly based on philosophical arguments and have no place in this thread). We aren't confronting ideas, we are confronting factual issues.
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  7. Suh added a post in a topic Are the dev's or GM's going to acknowledge that half the channels are broken and completely unusable by the majority of the player base?   

    I don't remember wishing your death, and I didn't argue about the "majority" either, but again, Plunge's doing Plunge.
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  8. Suh added a post in a topic Are the dev's or GM's going to acknowledge that half the channels are broken and completely unusable by the majority of the player base?   

    Thanks for proving, one more time, that all you can do is nitpicking, and while War try to cover you with argument process, that's something you actually never managed to achieve (I mean, arguing). Plus, at least the 5y old have 5 years of experience, while all you can come with is: a made-up opinion based on the absence of experience.
    Oh, and in case you wonder, ask War how a server-side problem can impact only a part of the users. He will fill you in the details.
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  9. Suh added a post in a topic Are the dev's or GM's going to acknowledge that half the channels are broken and completely unusable by the majority of the player base?   

    Plunge's point: "It's fine, I never experienced lag"
    Counter argument "But, you never experienced it because you have no experience"
    Plunge doing Plunge: "Shhh, it's fine, you don't lag when you avoid people"
    Counter argument 2: "But we can't avoid people during NW because that's NW"
    Plunge doing Plunge again: "I already did a NW, once, some time ago, in my dream, I think, and ... it was fine!"
    Philosophizing with a 5y old child about the meaning of life would probably prove to be more insightful.
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  10. Suh added a post in a topic Are the dev's or GM's going to acknowledge that half the channels are broken and completely unusable by the majority of the player base?   

    That's very odd, perhaps a portion of the game, namely NW, requires a large amount of people regardless of what you think about it. So, did you experience it or not? Is it working or not? 
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  11. Suh added a post in a topic Are the dev's or GM's going to acknowledge that half the channels are broken and completely unusable by the majority of the player base?   

    Or it means you and Rooney never did any sensitive activity in BDO, let alone a NW.
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  12. Suh added a post in a topic Iframe   

    There's no general cooldown in BDO, using the CD of a skill doesn't impact the CD of another. So the comparison with stamina doesn't really apply, especially when it's used both for offense and defense.
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  13. Suh added a post in a topic Nerf des zones : Bashims , Sausans , Helms   

    En fait tu n'as toujours pas compris qu'on ne passe pas d'une zone à l'autre dans un ordre logique parce que le jeu le veut. On va là où il y a ce qui nous intéresse, quand ça nous intéresse. Dans le cas des Bashims, c'est une zone qui est à la fois facile et rapide d'accès, et relativement efficient pour xp solo et farmer les points de skill. Du coup même au 60, si t'as juste 30min de temps de jeu pour faire ton boost xp rapidement, ça reste un très bon choix plutôt que de perdre 1h à faire un aller-retour aux pirates ou dans le désert. Et même dans le désert, en général ça implique d'avoir les stats pour (comme pour Pila Ku), voir en plus de monter un groupe (comme Aakman).
    La même logique s'applique à la majorité des spots sur ta map: les bashims sont bien pour l'xp solo, d'autres sont bien pour la rentabilité régulière, d'autres encore sont là juste pour le shiny drop. Certains spots sont bien pour solo, d'autres sont mieux en groupe. Etc, etc. Il n'y a pas d'ordre logique dans les zones (en dehors du fait que certaines sont globalement plus difficiles que d'autres). Mais surtout, il n'y a pas d'ordre logique parce que tu l'as décidé, à un moment où, comme par hasard, ça t'arrange.
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  14. Suh added a post in a topic The economy is dieing   

    Because if it's highly needed, it has a high perceived value, and if it has a high perceived value, someone will always use the empty spot to be richer because of the lack of concurrence. That's a working economy in a nutshell.
    Even if you "need" something, as long as it is rare to the point that his price skyrocket, you will find someone who is willing to sell it at that high price, like you will find someone who is ready to pay said high price. Which can't happen in BDO.
    And that logic applies to basic things like BSP too: the low price doesn't match the high demand, so nobody will bother supplying the economy. Instead you'd rather keep them for yourself, and make a full chain of production. In BDO, you're either a whole or nothing, you can't be a part of the economy, and so, the economy isn't really working.
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