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  1. aradonaisan added a post in a topic Pearl Shop Discussion Megathread   

    This is a opinion from a veteran player from the 90's.
     
    I think people forget the mean of P2W on MMORPGS, you all complain about the Cash Shop and how they suck money out?
     
    This true is THIS GAME IS NOT P2W, A game to be P2W needs items that give advantage over players who don't use Cash and unlimited cash shop item sales:
    Does this game gives you Enhancement stones, superb gear or amazing items that make you better then all other players? 
    - NO, if you consider extras like inventory or mounts or pets, making you OP, its just nonsense
    Does this game have huge amount of GOLD SELLERS over the chat, and players are buying it as crazy and influence the economy of the game?
    - NO, the company controlled them well, there is the powerleveling issue, but that is a minor problem, and expensive one compared to normal top games lie WoW or B&S
    Can you get all the top items from game selling Costumes, pets etc???
    Here is a simple calculation
    30$ allows you to buy a very nice outfit and sell it on the cash shop to profit a nice 13m gold (lol) + you can sell 5 items a week
    - Total profit 65m/w
    - Spending 150$
    The reason i put this calculation here is simple... What the hell is 65m in a week?, if you are a player who farm their own silver without using CASH SHOP, for sure you know this amount is peanuts. if you don't know how to make money search youtube or google, theres ways of being rich easily^^
     
    Did you benefit from this implementation?
    Now you have the opportunity to get all Cash Shop items without spending one $, do i need to say more? don't think so..
    Have you ever tried a real p2w game?
    This is my story, i play MMOs for 17 years, and as all of you, I am always hoping for games that can be fun and fair. True is BDO cash shop system and AH is probably the most controllable economy i ever saw, i always played old and new games that people who could get cash shop to trade for economy in game were dominating the servers they were on, there was no limit of prices or items they could sell, so they could profit more then a 24/h top f2p player who is farming for is wealth for life.
    For the last 6 Years i jumped from one  MMORPG to another, because the p2w was real, there was no limit on sales, there was no limit of money players could trade for in game currency, and when this isn't enough, we have the real issues, the gold sellers....
    So I have a real question for you all that are all raging (respecting your opinion, lack of knowlodge and probably lack of skill or mmo experience)
    What game is available now with so much control in Cash shop and specially with gold sellers then BDO?
    If you can prove there is other games with better options then BDO than you are totally right... thing is will you find one?
    I leave this question for all of those haters and maybe to the supporters of this idea.
     
    *P.S. when you bring your arguments here try to answer the questions i made and said NO, don't go off topic^^
     
    WHY I POSTED THIS? Because before you hate, get the market knowledge first, and then bring facts. and if you Give WoW example, just google WoW gold and you have the answer^^
     
    DONT FORGET P2W is not just CASH SHOP, its also outside factors
     
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  2. aradonaisan added a post in a topic Had enough, I will speak my mind.   

    This is a opinion from a veteran player from the 90's.
     
    I think people forget the mean of P2W on MMORPGS, you all complain about the Cash Shop and how they suck money out?
     
    This true is THIS GAME IS NOT P2W, A game to be P2W needs items that give advantage over players who don't use Cash and unlimited cash shop item sales:
    Does this game gives you Enhancement stones, superb gear or amazing items that make you better then all other players? 
    - NO, if you consider extras like inventory or mounts or pets, making you OP, its just nonsense
    Does this game have huge amount of GOLD SELLERS over the chat, and players are buying it as crazy and influence the economy of the game?
    - NO, the company controlled them well, there is the powerleveling issue, but that is a minor problem, and expensive one compared to normal top games lie WoW or B&S
    Can you get all the top items from game selling Costumes, pets etc???
    Here is a simple calculation
    30$ allows you to buy a very nice outfit and sell it on the cash shop to profit a nice 13m gold (lol) + you can sell 5 items a week
    - Total profit 65m/w
    - Spending 150$
    The reason i put this calculation here is simple... What the hell is 65m in a week?, if you are a player who farm their own silver without using CASH SHOP, for sure you know this amount is peanuts. if you don't know how to make money search youtube or google, theres ways of being rich easily^^
    Have you ever tried a real p2w game?
    This is my story, i play MMOs for 17 years, and as all of you, I am always hoping for games that can be fun and fair. True is BDO cash shop system and AH is probably the most controllable economy i ever saw, i always played old and new games that people who could get cash shop to trade for economy in game were dominating the servers they were on, there was no limit of prices or items they could sell, so they could profit more then a 24/h top f2p player who is farming for is wealth for life.
    For the last 6 Years i jumped from one  MMORPG to another, because the p2w was real, there was no limit on sales, there was no limit of money players could trade for in game currency, and when this isn't enough, we have the real issues, the gold sellers....
    So I have a real question for you all that are all raging (respecting your opinion, lack of knowlodge and probably lack of skill or mmo experience)
    What game is available now with so much control in Cash shop and specially with gold sellers then BDO?
    If you can prove there is other games with better options then BDO than you are totally right... thing i will you find one?
    I leave this question for all of those haters and maybe to the supporters of this idea.
     
    *P.S. when you bring your arguments here try to answer the questions i made and said NO, don't go off topic^^
     
    WHY I POSTED THIS? Because before you hate, get the market knowledge first, and then bring facts. and if you Give WoW example, just goodle WoW gold and you have the answer^^
     
    DONT FORGET P2W is not just CASH SHOP, its also outside factors
     
     
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  3. aradonaisan added a post in a topic Need a 7day trial   

    i dont care if its pay to win or not, i just want to try it if someone can share a trial with me i would be happy
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  4. aradonaisan added a topic in General   

    Need a 7day trial
    Hello community,
     
    I want to try this game i heard so much of it, and all videos i see looks pretty amazing, beside all talk about p2w, the game looks wonderfull and what game in market doesnt have cash shop?
     
    Please help me out if you can spare a code leave a pm or send me by message.
     
    Looking forward to try this game
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