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1. (wow) Skillesss pvp? LOL You mean class based,it's no different than bdo class > skill 2. GW: No need to grind to acess wvw? Really? Because if you go into wvw at any lvl with shit gear you will get shit on. the wvw only increases your hp,Doesn't give you stats that gear would give you... Like i dono.. Actual stats.. Toughness... torment to attack.. attack power.. etc.. ,Were you planning on saying any facts here? Cause i've yet to see one. The only place gear is equalized is in battleground que in gw2,NOT WVW,Atleast know what your talking about before shitposting. 3. I would not consider GW2 having raids only dungeons. Op why even be on the bdo forums? Their forums are the same right?
You already have an account, the hell you care if its you playing it through another program? it's still the same game lmao, This entitled generation..... Given a spot on the beach,But you want the spot other people are standing on.. It's all the same beach people.
As usual the frostfire propaganda train, If you don't believe me check his profile,every thread he starts is just a complaint,just continued ways of trying to get everyone riled up or triggered. There should be that if all you ever create is threads about why the game sucks that they should just cancel your account lmao. Since you obviously hate everything about it judging by all the threads you have created.
Unfortunately visnja the guy is correct,In the thousands of shards (servers) ragnarok currently has,it has millions more than FFXIV. Hell i played it for 10 years i think At one point it had more than 40 million players worldwide playing it in korea/china/india/latin america/japan/america/eur which merged into another,not even counting all the private servers,and currently the private servers right now still have thousands a piece and there are plenty,they are updated now more than the real servers.
Ragnarok online to many who used to play know when gravity used to post statistics knew that there were over 76 million unique accounts subbed during the first 6 years.It's safe to say if you went by sheer numbers of people who played the real servers + private servers that there has never been a online mmorpg more played than ragnarok. especially after everyone went crazy with aegis and kept making new shit in the game on private shards
Speaking of anyone remember dunking on kids as a sac pally with tao gunka?? or tossing kids like kobe with the alchemist and kiel d02 card spam?
or how about the satisfaction of an AA hunter with maxed crit chance and the hawk + max aspd,bwaaaahhhh CHAINGUNNNN
I realize correlation and causation fallacy,but since this is one of the only forms of data we have to go off of,this is the information we have to work with based on the fact pattern, A creative advertising campaign is not what brought people back. Valencia is obviously not what brought people back as no one grinds there barely at all. yet even before we knew about the merger there was a large boost of players coming back,Especially after the tightening of the karma penalization. There are only a few things of merit that were happening as this was. awakenings and tightening of the karma system. And 32 channels is nothing when there are hundreds of guilds in the game... There are enough Top guilds in the game that could defend the entirety of pirate island on every channel and still have at least another 32 top guilds that could do the same to sausans at the same time.
As i said before,I want EXP loss on death,I want to pk people all i want with no penalty to me. Unfortunately with people being as sensitive as they are now adays in games this is just not possible if you wish for the community to survive. The majority of the pvp centric mmorpgs that have taken that path have died off quicker than their pve centric counterparts.
And if you really think that bad decisions by the developer are the main cause i would disagree with you,i'm assuming you mean p2w fallacy? Well i don't agree it exists. I have yet to see an argument that makes it p2w by any reason of logic or reason applied to it.
That is not the only assumption to draw,The main assumption people get from watching videos,random channel chat,reddit,on here that i have seen is that 450gs is what the pvp average is,im "assuming" people want to hit the baseline to be able to "try" to atleast pvp and to get ready for the 500gs soft req for the new expansion of Kamis.Aswell 450 gs is around the point where you most effectively farm without pots being necessary,barring some classes ofcourse. Again none of this conjecture matters. As to the question OP posted was How long it takes to get to 450 gs,which is not what people are replying with. Why argue a point that technically has nothing to do with the OP's question,it is just adding a layer of bias that had nothing to do with the question itself.
Anyone attempting to make sweeping claims based on personal experience that blanket statement an entire community better do so with just reason and a fact pattern that supports it. If you intend to make a difference you have to adhere to the more intelligent of the crowd not just the average person. A thousand ignorant people can move a giant boulder,But it only takes 1 smart person to convince them to.
I and many of my friends on the west coast never lag or rubberband or even see much if any desync. This includes my friends from the following states including myself, (California,Washington,Oregon,Idaho.
So instead what everyone should be doing is supplying data in a fact pattern basis and not emotion. So instead post this,And i will attempt to start collecting unique names/locations/what channels work best for them etc and i will make a graph. I will put in the effort to help the community. If people are willing to intelligently help and act civil, So my question to the community:
Each person if you could respond with the following,Structured in this manner.
A picture of your character (INCLUDING FAMILY NAME),no need for gear. (To prove you are a unique user and not a person reposting to skew the data) Location (if in the united states ,what state,if in another country,what country and what province or state) Channels that work best for you Channels that work the worst for you If you have had issues what time of the day/what events during the game you feel them most/towns/nodewars etc What internet provider. What % of the time you play this adversely affects you. Network speed you pay for.
So as an example
Picture blah blah Location : California Channels that work best : all Channels that work worst: N/A Issues : i had some issues 3 times last year during nodewars. Time of day or events for issues : Nodewars % of time it affects you adversely : 1% Internet provider : Charter Network speed you pay for : 200mb
I will be gathering data on here in this post and as well i will be asking people in game. For quality control i will do the following. 10% of the players will be from the top nodewars guilds 10% of the players will be from lifeskilling only guilds. 10% of the players will be from the forum. The other 70% will be collected by random individuals i find in the game All questions will be asked in a fact pattern basis,Because i am asking the questions they will not include my bias. Simply probing questions. if possible they will be asked in the same degree in the list that i have stated them here as to not "lead" subjects toward an answer i see fit. Included after the graph will be a drop box full of screenshots of all 2,000 screenshots of unique names and conversations that the graph data will be sourced from. I will be doing this to provide transparency for the 2,000 person data sample. I have hired a few friends to help me in their free time to help me do quality control to make sure the same person is not collected data from.I have a fair amount of people willing to help with the 2nd round of data collected to which if i succeed at getting the data out this month for 2,000 unique names they will help me collect the next round of sample data to the tune of 10,000 unique people in the months following after.
I encourage you to support me in this endeavor by posting your information for this collection. In hopes that we can find the hubs or issues between locations to the server for kakao to iron them out. I will not accept data from individuals who will not list their state/country/family name or ISP provider. Should i contact you in the game do not bother messaging me after our conversation as is concluded as you will be blocked to help me sort through people so that i have less sorting to do of duplicate family names/char names later. The person messaging you will be named "FreewayCensus" Any other name messaging you in regards to this is not me.
I will respond to this thread with a link to the new thread i make awell.
I was in a guild doing just that. we never let anyone near our spots,we would destroy any forms of transportation you have and spawn camp you,your stubborn? didn't matter we were there for 8-12 hours at a time.
you really think the game can suffer another wave of what me and many other guilds did? I doubt it.
Bdo was designed as a pvp game,notice how all the features it lists on the webpage are mostly pvp centric? do you not see those flags hanging in town with manup etc guild emblem? Does rbf not exist? Does open pvp not exist?Does the arena not exist?,Does karma not exist? Do pets that give karma gain not exist? i see mostly pvp in this game,I am however a perma red player.When you go to black deserts site when you scroll over GAME it gives 2 options,Overview and Warfare. One of the largest if not the largest page on black deserts main site is this
Look how large the pvp section is.. Just do yourself a favor and make a quick scroll,and tell me how many webpages you been to lately other than reddit have that long a scroll bar?
Depends which you speak tbh,heb not really,rednose absolutely not,giath nope,muskans absolutely yes aswell as bhegs but again,context of the ops question tbh. he needs gear first to farm for the lovely tidal wave of emotion that is meme frag farming for his boss gear enchants which will be far out of his/her reach for a very long time. but i get where your coming from.
Trust me i want it as bad as you do. But we need another solution. As much as i want to slaughter everyone i see,This will kill the player base,Which was why this was enacted. Read channel chat and forum and tell me that these triggered kids we constantly hear speak will not revolt if it went back.=/
First of all someone else said you need dande for the extra 3 ap,I was saying you don't. Please read first.
450 grunil may mean trash all to me and you but it means everything to a new player.I simply answered the question,he did not ask for PVP gear,He asked how long it takes to get 450gs. I gave him a reasonable build without cheating using red coral items which i easily could have,Or even ancient weapon core bs.
Do tell how answering the Op's question in the context he asks is not the correct way to respond to a question? Yeah so why even mention 450gs as you said.. I dono because the OP said "EXACTLY" 450gs I could keep arguing but it's doing no one any good. Talking to a wall that doesn't even read the OP's post is like talking to a person who stares at the sun and says,Wheres the light?
I will welcome you to the 500+ club when you reach it. Until then my friend.
Just like his YT channel. Me and bruce buffer will be waiting in the bouncy house ring full of preschoolers. To the thousands in attendance and millions watching around the world... LLLLLLLEEETSSS GETT READDDYYY TO TUMMMBLEEEEEEEEE I'll give you a hint.
I've seen someone similarly bad,he plays on na and calls himself something similar, he quit and downtalked the game in a youtube video and then He sold his account.he realized he was wrong and then requested to get it back saying he was hacked. Can't remember his name... Should get those checked. I saw on tv that those bumps could contain pustules and possible herpes.
You can simply buy gear. Do constant research, For instance before the mergers even happened many of us did research and worked on all 3 servers so that we would have 6 boss loot boxes,3 red nose and 3 normals,including all the CP exp/energy exp etc all transfered over,There are plenty of guilds out there full of people with tri ogre rings for instance. It's all time not RNG if you boil it down to market camping,Making sure you make every boss in your rotation,never doing scrolls without others,be it awakened weeklys or dailies or relics,It's all about efficiency, Even if you have to stack aurus for dande or kzarka or etc it is all there in a time gate,RNG is not soo punishing that you can't get what you want if you work hard enough at it,or save up enough money for it via maximizing roi and time management. I think people in the game have just been used to making excuses about things like this to make themselves feel better. Hell even i did 2 months in forever ago. I realize we are all human and subject to emotion and hormones. But why can't people sit back and make short term goals and reach them one at a time? I got my first kzarka off auras for instance. Trust me it's far easier than most think. They just fail because of shortsighted ways of thinking and fall into a slump of frustration. It seems like now adays people don't know what they want,but they know they want it NOW. i advise others to throw that way of thinking out while playing this game. Find a short term goal and focus on that and that only and once you reach it. Go for the next.
-edit if you have been playing since launch and aren't full tet or mostly tet then you have not played the game efficiently for a large portion of that time.
Maybe when you earning and learning how to play your class via hard work doesn't matter there will be consequences.. Lol this fallacy again. Real life is more gear and lvl dependant than the game. The game is entirely fair in that you put in more time you get more progress out of it. I never understood this argument that your time spent in game should not reflect your progress lol... makes no sense. GL in life with that logic.
Oh really? lets look below. This is not a new suggestion. Nor a helpful one. This has been debated hundreds of times in numerous threads,all threads have included that same suggestion and it always gets debunked. High players will grief low players until they quit thus killing the population. Do you even know the history of why the karma system was tweaked to penalize people more? Did you do any research?
So "If you didn't read my entire post that's your fault" I said supply a suggestion not a Pyrrhic victory. Off to bed i go,This will give you ample time to come up with a reasonable reply.
-Edit also i don't disagree with you,I want the karma system gone. I want to do nothing but hunt people all day in between my tasks. But if you kill the karma system again,You kill off the population of targets to kill. Lets be realistic here. This isn't a 90s mmorpg or early 2000's where people like me and you thrived. People are too sensitive now and cant stop letting their feelings get in the way of gameplay.
Op makes a thread with old videos of low lvl gameplay (low lvl gameplay is always slow) Then shows a lvl 60 in kamis region ,high lvl,lota skills,Of course it looks different. The only difference today is the majority of the forum does nothing but purposely find everything they can to cry about. Which is probably the reason the new forums come in 3 days and this all gets turned off,except for replies for 10 days. Because this forum is toxic. And in the new one i bet they have the ability to automate searchterm and auto close posts that involve whatever titles and words they see fit because the children were let loose running with scissors for too long. Now it's time to duct tape them to the wall again and stop this sjw toxic propaganda train that is the BDO forums. If you look at the last 4 months of the bdo forums,It's nothing but trolls convincing people to become trolls and then re-troll each other. And scare away as many new comers As possible with little facts and citing no sources. The entitlement has run rampant and it's time to reel it back in.