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Thread bumping The User shall not bump own threads. Replies to own threads with the sole purpose of moving said thread to the top of the forum can lead to a warning with the possible consequence of losing writing permissions on http://forum.blackdesertonline.comIf the User wants to add more information to a post, the “EDIT” function can be used. It is permitted to reply to own posts once every 48h as long as the follow up post adds new and meaningful information related to the topic.Replies to other users posts with the sole purpose of increasing it's visibility are also considered thread bumping as well as spam and will be actioned accordingly.Normal replies to other users are not affected by the above mentioned rules.6.2. 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If the User finds another user behaving inappropriate several times in a short time span, the Report Function can be used, highlighting one relevant post and indicating in the notes that other threads are affected too. If the User feels a thread is out of control, one post should be reported indicating in the notes the whole thread needs attention.  7. RP Forum Rules The RP Forums follow a more strict rule set. Any user wishing to participate on the RP forums is advised to review the specific rules before posting.  8. Appeal Forum Moderations Threads deemed inappropriate to a particular forum will be moved to a more appropriate forum or even removed completely. Threads that have been removed or closed are not to be re-posted. The User shall not discuss specific cases of moderated posts or disciplinary actions against users on the forum. If the User disagrees with an action taken by the moderator team, an e-mail should be send to forumdisputes@blackdesertonline.com. An uninvolved Community Manager will then review the case. 

      Ladies and gentlemen ATTENTION please:
      It's time to move into a new house!
        As previously announced, from now on IT WON'T BE POSSIBLE TO CREATE THREADS OR REPLY in the old forums. From now on the old forums will be readable only. If you need to move/copy/migrate any post/material from here, feel free to contact the staff in the new home. We’ll be waiting for you in the NEW Forums!


      *New features and amazing tools are waiting for you, even more is yet to come in the future.. just like world exploration in BDO leads to new possibilities.
      So don't be afraid about changes, click the link above and follow us!
      Enjoy and see you on the other side!  
    • WICHTIG: Das Forum ist umgezogen!   05/04/2017

      Damen und Herren, wir bitten um Eure Aufmerksamkeit, es ist an der Zeit umzuziehen!
        Wie wir bereits angekündigt hatten, ist es ab sofort nicht mehr möglich, neue Diskussionen in diesem Forum zu starten. Um Euch Zeit zu geben, laufende Diskussionen abzuschließen, könnt Ihr noch für zwei Wochen in offenen Diskussionen antworten. Danach geht dieses Forum hier in den Ruhestand und das NEUE FORUM übernimmt vollständig.
      Das Forum hier bleibt allerdings erhalten und lesbar.   Neue und verbesserte Funktionen warten auf Euch im neuen Forum und wir arbeiten bereits an weiteren Erweiterungen.
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      https://community.blackdesertonline.com/index.php Update:
      Wie angekündigt könen ab sofort in diesem Forum auch keine neuen Beiträge mehr veröffentlicht werden.
    • IMPORTANT: Le nouveau forum   05/04/2017

      Aventurières, aventuriers, votre attention s'il vous plaît, il est grand temps de déménager!
      Comme nous vous l'avons déjà annoncé précédemment, il n'est désormais plus possible de créer de nouveau sujet ni de répondre aux anciens sur ce bon vieux forum.
      Venez visiter le nouveau forum!
      De nouvelles fonctionnalités ainsi que de nouveaux outils vous attendent dès à présent et d'autres arriveront prochainement! N'ayez pas peur du changement et rejoignez-nous! Amusez-vous bien et a bientôt dans notre nouveau chez nous


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  1. AmagicalFishy added a post in a topic Enchanting failure rates   

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  2. AmagicalFishy added a post in a topic Urgent Maintenance April 27 ... for one pearl item   

    itt: people continue to use "money first" as a justification for everything
    i can't wait
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  3. AmagicalFishy added a post in a topic Anyone else kinda bored of the game right now?   

    @feebleone i wish there was a dislike button so i could press it
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  4. AmagicalFishy added a post in a topic I'd like to get to PVP, but you've put it behind the biggest PVE grindwall ever constructed.   

    i am not interested in the whole "he also used logical fallacies" argument, because it's irrelevant. assuming your position is not a fallacy when the assumption is appropriate. (why the ----- does everyone on the internet throw around these words without knowing what they are). in multiple posts you defended the "your opinion is invalid because you don't have enough experience" (the experience you would gauge by looking at his character sheet) stance. it is by no means a fallacy to thusly assume this is the stance you hold. if you want to clarify further, then do soit looks to me like there was room enough for 10+ pages of discussioni never said what is classified by "ethos" can't be an important argumentative tool—i said that it was not, and never will be a means of logical analysis. it is a classification of rhetoric.you keep asking things like "how can we talk about anything else?" but many people are doing it, over the course of 10+ pages. you're sitting there going "show me your character sheet or wtf!!" while ignoring what he's actually saying. it's fully possible to discuss something in a rational, logical manner, without either party being an expert or invoking arguments of authority, when the subject itself isn't a direct, immediate matter of propositional logic. i've had many tame, logical discussions about very abstract, and very controversial things. logic can, and should be applied to everything.in short: the position "there's no logic therefore i need to determine your credibility based on your character sheet" is sillyyou're sillybad job
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  5. AmagicalFishy added a post in a topic I'd like to get to PVP, but you've put it behind the biggest PVE grindwall ever constructed.   

    appeals to ethos have nothing to do with the logical viability of an argument—they are entirely independent of whether or not an argument is logically sound. aristotle's modes of persuasion are classifications of rhetorical tools (not logical ones). you're completely misusing said classifications. arguments from authority are not deductive, and can very well be ad-hominem. your demand for his character sheet or whatever as a judgement for the logical viability of his argument is ad hominem; it is a rebuttal of his argument not performed by addressing its contents, but by attacking who the argument is coming from.
    yes, if he said "i have 5 level 70 characters who make up the top 5 pvpers"—this persuasive tool can be classified as ethos, but just because you demand of him a particular form of ethos does not mean that your demands (and ensuing dismissal of his argument) aren't ad-hominem. further, just because you can call it "ethos" doesn't mean it's reasonable, sensible, or logical. again, the modes of persuasion are classifications of rhetoric, not tools for logical analysis.
    you should reeeeaaaaally make sure you're educated in the subject that you so condescendingly say "educate yourself" about
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  6. AmagicalFishy added a post in a topic I'd like to get to PVP, but you've put it behind the biggest PVE grindwall ever constructed.   

    no, your example is the incorrect usage of ad hominem that is so frequently spouted off on the internet
    saying "you're an idiot" is not ad hominem. saying "you're an idiot, therefore your argument is invalid" is ad hominem (and, no, just the statement "you're an idiot" certainly does not imply the latter statement)
    saying "your experience isn't sufficient—so regardless of the contents of your argument—your argument is invalid" is ad hominem. ethos has nothing to do with it, and i'm not sure why you presented that term as if it were somehow mutually exclusive w/ something being ad hominem.
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  7. AmagicalFishy added a post in a topic I'd like to get to PVP, but you've put it behind the biggest PVE grindwall ever constructed.   

    yo, that's dumb as hell
    i know "ad hominem" is (incorrectly) thrown around a lot on the internet, but this is an actual case of ad hominem
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  8. AmagicalFishy added a post in a topic Anyone else think that the market is abit.. broken? / Everything is Overpriced.   

    yeah capitalist markets are doing really well though
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  9. AmagicalFishy added a post in a topic My BDO love story   

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  10. AmagicalFishy added a post in a topic Total Cost of BDO   

    the socialization/competition + numbers grind, dude.
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  11. AmagicalFishy added a post in a topic Can we talk about the 10,000 hour reward?   

    then 10,000 hour reward should be a ban from the game and a little card with some money that says "please, do something with your life"
    10k hours wtf?
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  12. AmagicalFishy added a post in a topic 2% droprate vs 1% means half of the work or twice the drops   

    oh, sorry. you're right—it should either be 10,000, 1%, or an expected value of 1 (just a typo; edited it and some other order-of-magnitude errors to reflect that correction; i was thinking of 0.1% as .01 [which is 1%])
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  13. AmagicalFishy added a topic in Sorceress   

    Should I go straight for Liverto?
    hi, folks,
    the last game i played like this was vindictus ...
    (oh my god i played that game for thousands of hours i loved it so much the combat was so good holy shit if only the rest of the game wasn't cash-grab trash omfg)
    ... ahem. and i found that it was much more economical to buy my gear, fully enchanted and everything instead of enchanting it myself. now, as a nublet—i'm pretty poor, not yet 56, and haven't yet broken 50m, but, i'm thinking of going down the same path.
    right now, i'm thinking of just going straight for a PRI Liverto, which would run me about 200m (but give me a good 44 AP; i'm only at 95 now)
    what do you guys think?
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  14. AmagicalFishy added a post in a topic 2% droprate vs 1% means half of the work or twice the drops   

    you and i should develop an internet romance so i can make a hit movie out of it in 2010
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