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About Satalin

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  1. Satalin added a post in a topic Deciding to not play the game at all?   

    +1 cannot aggree more with Archangel
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  2. Satalin added a post in a topic MMOS.com has key giveaway contest   

    out of keys
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  3. Satalin added a post in a topic Pet Advantages   

    Oh i didnt know that, i thought you can have only 1 summoned, then why not all 3, like dog cat and hawk?
    btw how mutch does it cost to feed them?
    Is it gold/result wise efficient?
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  4. Satalin added a post in a topic Pet Advantages   

    hm so dog it is!
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  5. Satalin added a post in a topic [Updated v2.0] Bounty Hunters, Karma, and Flagging Discussion   

    well we will see about that when time comes.
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  6. Satalin added a post in a topic [Updated v2.0] Bounty Hunters, Karma, and Flagging Discussion   

    Excuse me sir, but being forced to spend 10-20-30 hours grinding just to clear off some karma isn't exactly being "scared" but not wanting to spent many hours on a useless penalty...
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  7. Satalin added a post in a topic [Updated v2.0] Bounty Hunters, Karma, and Flagging Discussion   

    +1 with LoneWolf here, there are many situations where PK is needed or atleast force pvp on some people
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  8. Satalin added a post in a topic [Updated v2.0] Bounty Hunters, Karma, and Flagging Discussion   

    Well thanks for the sarcasm but the magic chat window does not work most of the times against the IQ levels of most annoying players who will force you to send them see another world.
    Nevertheless it seems I did not understood the flag system correctly.
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  9. Satalin added a post in a topic [Updated v2.0] Bounty Hunters, Karma, and Flagging Discussion   

    Hmmm i think i have something wrong.
    How exactly you flag in this system?
    Don't you need to attack someone to be flagged for pvp?
    If so thats what I have not understood correctly so far. 
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  10. Satalin added a post in a topic [Updated v2.0] Bounty Hunters, Karma, and Flagging Discussion   

    still the first person that is going to flag will lose 10k of karma.Why is he punished? Am i the only one  who sees that unfair?
    I like to pvp and in most cases i will flag but without response of the attacked player, which leads to a lot of karma just for flagging without pvping.....

    someone said before 1-2 pages that each monster kill gives 20 karma, i took that in mind and also i read on a kr forum conversation where a guy said he had to kill 7000 monsters to recover 300.000 karma. which is insanely huge number....
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  11. Satalin added a post in a topic MMORPG Vetetan LF Eng Speaking EU GUILD(PvP/PvE/GvG etc)   

    hey shappy.
    when i say night i mean around utc 21:00 to 23:00-24:00
    I work until 17:00 and then until 20:00-20:30 i have some things to attend to, so on working days these will be my online hours
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  12. Satalin added a post in a topic [Updated v2.0] Bounty Hunters, Karma, and Flagging Discussion   

    Can someone please explain me why we are forced as of V2 system to take -10k karma just for flagging?
    Why is "wanting to pvp in open world" aka "flagging" punished by -10k karma? or maybe, grinding 500 mobs?
    Am I the only one that sees that nonsense?
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  13. Satalin added a topic in European Guild   

    MMORPG Vetetan LF Eng Speaking EU GUILD(PvP/PvE/GvG etc)
    Hello guys.
    I am 25 yo played for like 10 years mmorpgs with good pvp mass pvp and raiding experience.
    I am looking for a night casual pvp to make some friends and have company over our adventures on BDO world.
    Happy to see your suggestions.
    PS: Already preorder game.
    Cheers, Ilias
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  14. Satalin added a post in a topic [Updated v2.0] Bounty Hunters, Karma, and Flagging Discussion   

    Hello everyone!
    This is my first post on BDO community since many years in the mmo gaming community.
    I have spent my first and most gaming years playing plenty of Lineage 2 variations on several pvp and pve oriented servers across the globe.
    First I would like to congratulate Daum and Pearl for this wonderful game we are expecting so much hyped all these years.
    Secondly after some extensive reading on the OWPVP and Karma system I would like to address my bit of disappointment over that.
    I have played almost all mmorpgs since L2 C3 released untill today (including wow tera AOC and many many others).
    The by FAR best OW PVP system i found all these years, the one we enjoyed the most and have so many good memories about is L2 system in first place, and TERA on second with a few drawbacks i will explain sortly.
    In MY opinion L2 system was the best in all mmorpgs so far BECAUSE:
    1st There is a situation where you are "forced" or you want to PK aka murder another player right?
    Ok you can DO it and face some consequences, have some negative karma, kill some mobs or die 2 3 times and negative karma is lost(in my experience the most optimal amount of mobs/time its "ok" to spent in order to clear your negative karma should be like 50-100 same level monsters or in time like 10-15 minutes, anything more than that just make the game and PK feature UNUSABLE. If you punish players to spent from 1 hour to 18-20 hours like some guys i read about in KR servers had to do in order to clear 2 PK karma, well its just stupid because you take all the pleasure in doing so by disabling the player for the next week, in case of casual player.)
    2nd There is a situation where for several reasons a street fight can begin, in short, OPEN WORLD PVP NOT PK!!!!
    Where some people will have to flag on others and start fighting on each other.
    You MUST be able to kill and be killed by other flagged players on non peace zones whenever you like like you could in L2 and TERA.
    You cannot PUNISH players for flagging on other players!
    Its ok and perfectly acceptable to punish a little if someone PKs another player, aka murder him without fighting back. But to punish them for flagging on some other, well thats a lot stupid because again it stops open world PVP which is from the best and motivative features, at least for pvp players who invest lots of time in mmorpgs with open world pvp.
    L2 utilized that the best in my opinion with flagging system where if you had pvp flag on you, anyone else could flag also and kill you without a penalty, and of cource you could kill any other flagged people also.
    There is an enormous pleasure in mass pvping in open world mmos that any pvper know.
    TERA did that a step worse than L2, they used a triggered pvp system where if you killed a -10 lvl player you had negative "karma" for some time which forced to stay in pvp mode.
    That was good but not as good as flag system.
    I really hope many fellow players and staff aggree with my opinions and move OW PVP more on L2 way because if  even in EU like KR servers you have to kill 7000-8000 monsters solo in order to clear 1 murder negative karma, and get negative karma for each flag. Well.....in that way OPEN WORLD PVP which you advertise that lot is just gone.
    NOONE will pvp outside arenas and instanced matces.
    It will be the same with removing it completely.
    It instantly KILLS streetfights, fights over territory for guilds, small fights between people who argued over a monster etc etc etc, many similar situations we all remember from our open world pvp experiences.
    All these years i hoped for a new mmo with as nice open world pvp/pk system, perfect combat, realistic graphics etc.
    Your game looks like a WIN WIN WIN on everything except open world pvp system and karma system.
    I hope you liked what I said and i did not waste your time.
    We will journey together on the realm of Black Desert Online.
    Best regards.
    PS: I am looking for an English speaking PvP PvE guild, if you have anything to suggest throw me a message. Cheers.
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