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  1. Sef added a post in a topic Q&A with the Developers!   

    [Question]
     
    Why did you knowingly agreed GameNet to have publishing rights in part or European Union (Baltics, who only have Russian language as minority and not recognized at all as any official language) one week before Daum games EU/NA release was announced and now people are forced to play your game in language they do not understand (as English is not going to be supported in BDO RU) ? 
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  2. Sef added a post in a topic Isn't IP-blocking some part of Europe against the law?   

    I posted the link to raise the questions that those countries are IP-blocked and should go against the EU laws. For your concern yes I do live in Estonia, one of the 3 European Union countries what got IP-Blocked. No there is , no guild or any player left in RU who can speak English after EU/NA version comes out. Why I need to play the game I like in language I or anyone in my country don't understand. Why is Finland better than us ? Why is Sweden better than us ? They don't speak Russian as we don't. 

    Also I could ask same from your mother when she comes back to change your diapers you dirty basement troll. Stop trying to make yourself important with poor insults. Try better next time.
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  3. Sef added a topic in General   

    Isn't IP-blocking some part of Europe against the law?
    As many you know:
    http://forum.blackdesertonline.com/index.php?/topic/786-territory-of-service-updated-13112015/

    Some parts of European Union are IP-Blocked. As looking direction of the Baltic States: Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania .
    Not sure if you know, but this is live:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4V7Gkbc5yA

    http://ec.europa.eu/priorities/digital-single-market/
    http://ec.europa.eu/growth/single-market/digital/index_en.htm

    Geo-Blocking:
     
    Geo-blocking refers to practices used by online sellers that result in denial of access to websites based in other EU countries. It limits the choice of consumers and undermines their confidence in the Internal Market.
    While geo-blocking may be necessary in certain cases to comply with legislation or be the result of restrictions imposed by suppliers, unjustified geo-blocking as a commercial practice amounts to consumer discrimination. The benefits of acting against geo-blocking are clear:
    increased price transparency;more competition in cross-border e-commerce;greater availability of products for consumers.The Commission intends to put an end to geo-blocking for commercial reasons and similar techniques, except for cases of well-defined exceptions. The Services Directive already prohibits discrimination of consumers based on their country of residence, both in the online and offline world. For instance, travellers asking for the same product should not face prices differing according to their country of residence.

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    If I understand right, when services are shared in some European countries and my country is limited I could read, that there is issues of following the law. 
    Publisher is from Netherlands, and is sharing same laws as every other European Country. So publisher should not have any rights to make blocking even when some other company might have publisher rights over the countries. Like I told if I understood this right, then EU Law writes over all the rights etc.

    Maybe there is someone more smart or Daum Games E.V. could comment more how the legal everything here is and isn't.
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  4. Sef added a post in a topic PM Diary 2.2 - Cash Shop and more   

    Still no hope for whole EU to play the game ? sigh, looks like baltic euros are still no euros...

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  5. Sef added a post in a topic PM Diary 2.1 - Party System and Energy Changes   

    Amazing updates, now comes other question. Have you talked with Pearl Abyss directly to get publishing rights for all the Europe (Baltic states) ? No need to explain how people who don't understand Russian need to play the game in Russian version. Just simple answer... Yes or No and if Yes, then what was talked about it.
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  6. Sef added a post in a topic Carry weight and bag slots apply on account   

    As from the point when this game got B2P, things like this should be more free. I understand the reason of it in the pearl shop for every char on your account , when game is F2P. But here we will pay quite nice money for the game, game needs to be adjusted accordingly.

    IMHO this what is should have been from the start, not by the request, but in the original F2P game.
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  7. Sef added a post in a topic Interview with PM Belsazar - Answers   

    Ohh yeah all nice and still:

    " We don't know anything for sure. We like your idea, but anything what we decide is something what Peal Abyss needs to say. "

    You know what if you have so good connection with them point out that those:



    people do not speak RUSSIAN! And are part of EUROPE. Take that to Pearl Abyss and let them take it to GameNet and ask why they take money off from you ? 

    I love Black Desert Online !
    Black Desert Online RU is there, but we do not understand anything there is! HELP! We want English client !
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  8. Sef added a post in a topic Territory of Service - Updated 13.11.2015   

    Yes this is true. Leaving EU country out and giving other EU countries access will violate this. Not with all the legal actions what this will bring, it also can take all the publishing rights off from Daum Games Europe E.V . for right now and future projects.
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  9. Sef added a post in a topic Interview with PM_Belsazar   

    <Q> Why Daum does not work out something with GameNet and PA to give gaming rights to whole Europe (Baltic countries - who does not speak any Russian)?
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    <Q> Why did Daum blocked access from Baltic countries on the webpage as knowing there is other ways for players to access the game - VPN and players could be possible customers (Daum has done nothing regards VPN in KR version) ?
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    <Q> As there is long time until release of the game can Baltic countries have hope that IP-block will be lifted ?
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    <Q> What will happen with Black Desert Online Na/Eu next 6-12 months after B2P , some say that F2P will come no matter what because today's MMO market will not surive under overflow of F2PMMOs (not naming other titles) ?
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    <Q> What will be done with the regards of the PVP system. We all know how bad the potion spamming is ? Who ever runs out potions first will die, still it is silly.
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    <Q> How much behind of the KR release Na/Eu will be when game comes out ? Months ? Year ?
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    <Q> Cash shop, when do we see what will be there ?
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    <Q> Is there any plans to send community managers other sites, like for example /r/blackdesertonline sub-reddit, where CM_Oli is, seems he is busy and can't track everything alone ?
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    <Q> Have you thought of releasing vblogs in youtube channel ? Could bring players closer to game and get more customers. 
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  10. Sef added a post in a topic Territory of Service - Updated 13.11.2015   

    I downloaded Russian version (english path) to test the game out. I don't speak russian but I have friend in US who understands this. So after PVP fight I typed: "Good fight" and ohh my how this guy started to spam something in russian. I told polite way, that I don't speak russian and left his corpse. I asked my friend to translate later, seems he went grazy about something about, western scums and I get IP blocked because I bypass the block and I should speak russian.

    Well I'm from Estonia and I can't get IP blocked down there. But seems RU don't want to even think that not all the countries what can play RU don't speak russian. Over all russian community is cancer. And they get more and more toxic, that there is still western people playing there. I sure don't want to stick around there, but I want to play the game.
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  11. Sef added a post in a topic Territory of Service - Updated 13.11.2015   

    Yes this is option, but my friends want to play the game with me and I want to play with them. We all love the game. Right now we all feel like there is no point to even play the game if everyone can't play it. 
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  12. Sef added a post in a topic Territory of Service - Updated 13.11.2015   

    Yeah as much I would like to use VPN with any software I will always have fear that my account could get banned, because I managed to find way to bypass service location. 
    IP bans are stupid, alright I don't mind having them. Example RU can only play in RU, but countries what does not have native language russian even more so countries what are part of European Union, what uses Euro, what can't be more Europe as Europe possible - this is stupid. Hey why GameNet didn't get rights for Finland? They have same amount russian speaking people ... as Estonia / Latvia / Lithuania . Why Finish Euros are good and Estonian Euros are not ? 

    I just spoke with my friends and they all feel same. They have no IP blocks, but because what is going on with my country they right now thinking if they should even play the game...
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  13. Sef added a post in a topic Territory of Service - Updated 13.11.2015   

    Estonia

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estonia
    Official languagesEstonianaRecognised regional languagesVõroSetu 
    Ethnic groups (2015[1])69.1% Estoniansb25.2% Russians 
    CurrencyEuro (€)e (EUR)Estonia (i/ɛˈstoʊniə/;[11][12] Estonian: Eesti [ˈeːsti]), officially the Republic of Estonia (Estonian: Eesti Vabariik), is a country in the Baltic region of Northern Europe.
     
    The 2004 enlargement of the European Union was the largest single expansion of the European Union, both in terms of territory and population, but not in terms of gross domestic product (wealth). Estonia was among a group of ten countries admitted to the EU on 1 May 2004. The Treaty of Accession 2003 was signed on 16 April 2003.

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    Why don't you let people decide what they want to play. Share the rights with GameNet if you want, but please don't punish us players who don't speak what so ever russian. Or even more who don't want to play in RU servers. 
     
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  14. Sef added a post in a topic Territory of Service - Updated 13.11.2015   

    Well South America is other region. But I'm part of Europe. 
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  15. Sef added a post in a topic Territory of Service - Updated 13.11.2015   

    Leaving 3 northen europe countries what are part of European Union out ?

    I'm from Estonia, do I care of GameNet and Ru version ? NO! Because most of us DO NOT speak russian. 
    I was so hoping to play EU version... what ever.
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