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  1. Faine added a post in a topic Movement State Redux: Walking   

    *chucks +1 at the OP*
    Good points all around.
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  2. Faine added a topic in Roleplay   

    [EU OOC] Jordine RP channel revote!
    Jordine RP channel revote ahoy!
     
    Hi everyone. Just to let you know, the EU RP community on blackdesertroleplayers.com has called for a revote on which channel we use. While channel hopping is a simple thing, it's good to have a default go-to channel for our community. So far this channel has been Serendia J1, but due to roleplayers of other languages sharing the same space, it's been suggested that we move to Serendia J2 so that we don't get in each others' way.

    Come and share your vote in the EU General forum of blackdesertroleplayers.com, over here: http://www.blackdesertroleplayers.com/forum/m/33755660/viewthread/26730389-eu-roleplay-channel-revote
    This poll will close on Friday the 8th of April.
    Who is this vote for?
    Any roleplayer on the EU Jordine server!

    Why are you holding this vote on a fan-run site rather than here on the official forums?
    When we previously held a vote for which server we were going to go to on the official forums, we found out that the results were being manipulated by non-rolepalyers and had to start over. While I think it's unlikely it'd happen again, I'd rather avoid a potential repeat of that mess. On blackdesertroleplayers.com, it's easier for us to make sure that everyone who is voting should be voting.

    So I have to join your site to vote?
    Yes, you do. It's not ideal, I know, but for the reasons stated above, it's what we have to go with. Joining is as simple as clicking a couple of buttons and having your application approved though. You won't need to do anything beyond that.

    Why are you only considering Serendia J1 and J2?
    I haven't seen enough support for other channels. However, if you strongly feel we should be considering another channel, please feel free to make your case on the poll thread. Should enough people agree with you, then perhaps we'll hold another vote on this.
     
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  3. Faine added a topic in Suggestions   

    [RP] A ROLEPLAYING WISHLIST

    A ROLEPLAYING WISHLIST


     
    Roleplayers are a dedicated and loyal fan-base once you've got them hooked and a game like BDO has the kind of immersion many of us have so far only dreamed about. We're also inclined to continue making purchases through the cash shop for a long time - outfits, furniture, all things customisable - we love them. We're not usually well catered to in other games and I think that if BDO could go so far as to offer us the things on this list, a lot of roleplayers previously unsure about the game would flock to it and thrive. Roleplayers, of course, also engage in PvE, PvP and standard gameplay, but a solid roleplaying foundation can mean the difference between a few months play time to many years of dedication. Roleplayers create their own content, logging on every day just to tell stories. If you give us the tools, we'll use them and we'll stay for them.

    I've seen a lot of these issues being brought up by myself and by my fellow roleplayers, so I thought I'd try and compile one long list of requests with an explanation as to why each thing matters. Some are more important than others and some of these might also be applicable to those who don't roleplay as well, so if that's the case, please feel free to support what's relevant to you if you want to. We're not an exclusive club.

    If any roleplayers have additional suggestions to make, feel free to post them here and if enough people agree, I'll add them to the OP. Similarly, if enough roleplayers hate an idea I've already posted, I'll remove it. If you have a thread already discussing one of these points and would like it linked to in the OP, I'm also happy to do so if you just let me know.

    Thanks everyone.
     

    1. A roleplaying server (or channel, if a server is not possible).
    As seen over here, a roleplay server would be hugely appreciated. This would send out a clear message that roleplayers are welcome and it'd encourage more roleplayers from other games to check it out. It'd give us one clear place to go without the struggle of trying to arrange an 'unofficial roleplaying server'. We'd have the opportunity to fully entwine our gameplay and roleplay experiences instead of having to rely on forums and it'd allow us to populate the world with more life, to fully immerse ourselves in the setting. Furthermore, we'd be out of the way of those who don't appreciate roleplayers. Win/win for everyone except those who want to troll and nobody likes them anyway, right? Right.
    Since the game is out now and servers have been decided, I've removed this from the list. However, a channel might still be nice. If Daum is willing to do this though, I'd request that they discuss it with the roleplaying community first since it could cause more confusion than it helps. Similarly, in the unlikely case that Daum should decide to belatedly label a server as an RP server, please reach out to the roleplay community first to discuss this since we have already decided on 'unofficial' servers and channels for EU and NA at this point. Labeling the wrong server as an RP server and failing to provide transfers would be disastrous for us. 

    2. A walk toggle.
    While we're very grateful that the hold-down-capslock-to-walk was added to the game after our requests for a walk option, it would really be better as a toggle. The reason for this is that roleplayers like to have conversations while they're walking IC; this isn't really possible while holding down capslock and having it also TURN ALL DIALOGUE TO SHOUTING. Even if we bind the hold-down to a different key, we'd still have a lot of trouble roleplaying while on the move. It's a simple thing, but a walk toggle with the ability to auto-walk would make a huge difference to the roleplaying community.

    3. Custom emotes: /e. 
    Custom emotes let you describe your character performing an action of some sort. For example, the player would type: "/e takes a seat in one of the nearby chairs." This would then come out as: "Player takes a seat in one of the nearby chairs." and would not appear in the speech bubble, only in the chatbox. Emotes are often in a different colour than your regular chat which helps distinguish them as well. Most MMOs have this and, while it might seem like a minor thing again, I can't stress enough how important it is to help a roleplaying community thrive.

    Example image borrowed from Leandir.

    4. Improved chatbox length.
    Quite simply, the limit put on the chatbox right now is far too short. I'm assuming this is due to Korea having a much more compact alphabet, but with the game coming to the west now, this is something that really needs to be looked at. It's impossible to type anything longer than a short line or two and this is incredibly frustrating, both for roleplay and for every day chatter. I would say it needs to be at least five times longer than it is presently, which might sound like a lot, but it'd make roleplay much more comfortable.
    Thank you for the improved chatbox length! This has helped enormously!

    5. Improved character and guild name limits.
    Again, probably because of the Korean alphabet I'm guessing, but the limits on these are much too short. Please increase them to at least 20, and while we're at it, would it be possible to allow more than one underscore? And to have those underscores look like spaces even if they must be underscores in the coding? The latter is quite petty, I know, but it'd be much more visually appealing. The rest is more important, however. People are going to have a very hard time coming up with unique character and guild names with the limits currently in place. This is especially so with the guilds, many of which tend to have long names such as 'The Order Of....' What I just typed there wouldn't even fit within the 10 character limit right now, let alone have enough underscores available. Whether you roleplay or not, this is a problem.

    6. Custom chat channels or social circles.
    Roleplayers typically have several characters, usually differently themed. For example, one person might have both a knight character and also a thief character. The knight would not fit into a thief-themed guild or clan and vice versa. In other games, people are usually able to join multiple guilds or social circles to get around this problem, but that is not the case with BDO. While I understand why we are limited to just one guild and wouldn't propose changing that, I wonder if it would be possible to enable custom chat channels so that people can main one guild but have a social group or two on the side for their other characters? These social groups or channels would effectively just be clan-like in nature so that no game balance would be disrupted with conflicting guild interests.

    7. Campfires and tents brought back!
    It used to be possible to place tents and campfires down in the open world. There's not much to say on this except: please bring this back! It's a lovely feature and would make for some great camp roleplay when travelling. In fact, any small things we could place down in the open world like that would be warmly welcomed. This sort of thing makes roleplayers very happy.

    8. Dyes that aren't random.
    Customisation is very important to roleplayers. We enjoy getting just the right look for our characters but with dyes from the cash shop currently being RNG (even with the vague colour categories they currently have) this is a bit... well, rubbish. It's very off-putting. When we buy a dye, we want to know what we're buying. I think roleplayers would be much more inclined to fork out the money for these things if they were confident that they'd get what they're looking for and if they could preview these colours in the shop. I assume that the RNG nature of it is to make people buy more, but honestly, people are regularly going to want them all anyway, especially with them being one-use. 

    9. A more affordable cash shop.
    As previously mentioned, customisation is very important to roleplayers. We're probably among the people who will spend the most on cosmetic items. However, it has to be said that the prices currently being toted are really quite steep. Considering outfits and the like are character bound and not account bound, this is all the more so. Other B2P models have much more affordable outfits available with the prime example being GW2 - and there the outfits are account bound to boot! Please reconsider your pricing, BDO. Roleplayers are very happy to spend away but only when they feel the prices are fair. I really think you're likely to profit more, both from roleplayers and other players, if you make things cheaper so that people can buy regularly and en masse rather than having only the elite few being catered to.

    10. Improvements to character creation.
    As I keep saying, customisation is really important to roleplayers. The character creator is great, probably one of the best out there, but there are a few things lacking which I'm going to list here:
    A lot of hairstyles available to one class are not available to others. It'd be nice to see these options available to all classes.Again, a lot of tattoos and make up options available to one class are not available to others. Please make them available to all.Things don't scale terribly well and you can end up with glorious pin-heads like this one. Not only is it slightly horrifying, it's also rather limiting when it comes to how much you can adjust a character's body without them looking like they crawled out of your nightmares. Unless there are lore reasons specifically locking a class's age or gender, please allow full customisation of these aspects and gender counterparts for each class. This has been a major, major turn off for a lot of players and roleplayers alike.

    Additions:

    11. Language filter extended to more chats than just channel chat.
    As discussed on blackdesertoleplayers.com, many roleplayers would appreciate a language filter for the General-Chat and especially the Roleplay-Chat. When roleplaying, the language clutter can get quite difficult to manage and channel-hopping isn't always convenient when you're trying to find people in your own language for walk-up roleplay. Additionally, the Non-English communities are struggling to use the Roleplay-Chat because it's dominated so much by English speakers. It would be to everyone's benefit to give us the option to filter what we send and receive.




    Thanks to Daum for:
    A big thank you again to Daum for listening so far and for the official roleplaying forums!Thank you for the improved chatbox length! This has helped enormously!Thank you for the addition of the roleplaying channel! 
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  4. Faine added a post in a topic [Roleplay] Add RP channel   

    And for EU:

    Server Jordine.
    Channel: Serendia J1.

    @Dzunei, this thread might interest you: 

     
     
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  5. Faine added a post in a topic Dyeable Life Clothes   

    *throws many +1s at OP*
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  6. Faine added a topic in Roleplay   

    [OOC] EU roleplayers, say hello!
    Building EU connections.
    Main EU Server: Jordine, Serendia J1 and sometimes Serendia J2.

    I think it's known by most roleplayers that, when a game splits based on region, the NA roleplay community tends to be larger than the English-EU one. This leads to many forum posts being assumed NA by default and it can be a little overwhelming for EU people trying to find their footing. With that in mind, I thought it'd be a good idea to start up a thread specifically for EU roleplayers to congregate, to introduce themselves and to start making connections. I've seen a lot of lost EU roleplayers around, so hopefully this will help bring people together. 
    We have an EU community forming over on blackdesertroleplayers.com as well, for those who are interested.
    It's small right now, but it can grow with your input.
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    So uh, to introduce myself, I'm Faine and I'm an EU moderator for blackdesertroleplayers.com. I've been roleplaying for about ten years now, first in forum and tabletop sessions and now in MMOs as well in more recent years. I'm originally from the UK but I'm currently living with my Dutch fiancé in the Netherlands (who, incidentally, I met through roleplay eight years ago). I spend more time writing, reading and roleplaying in my free time than anything else so you could say I'm pretty passionate about the hobby... oooorrrrr a complete and utter nerd. You could say that too.
    Anyway, I've been watching Black Desert for a long time now and I'm eager to see it do well. With the exception of a few missing tools (lack of /e I'm looking at you) it's a wonderfully immersive game for roleplay. I've got a variety of characters in the works at the moment and I look forward to meeting you all.
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    Please note: this is not a thread to discuss the pros and cons of EU people playing on an NA server. Between bad ping, timezones and other reasons, many EU roleplayers will be playing on the EU server and this is a thread to help them connect with others doing the same thing. That's all. Please be nice. Thank you.
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  7. Faine added a post in a topic [OOC] EU roleplayers, say hello!   

    Nice to hear from you all! I've high hopes for BDO's RP community.
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  8. Faine added a post in a topic [RP] A ROLEPLAYING WISHLIST   

    Made an addition to the OP:
    11. Language filter extended to more chats than just channel chat.
    As discussed on blackdesertoleplayers.com, many roleplayers would appreciate a language filter for the General-Chat and especially the Roleplay-Chat. When roleplaying, the language clutter can get quite difficult to manage and channel-hopping isn't always convenient when you're trying to find people in your own language for walk-up roleplay. Additionally, the Non-English communities are struggling to use the Roleplay-Chat because it's dominated so much by English speakers. It would be to everyone's benefit to give us the option to filter what we send and receive.
    I will also be doing my best to go through this thread and look at the suggestions other people have made and - if they're popular enough - will edit those into the OP as well. So if there's something you really want up there, make some noise.
     
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  9. Faine added a topic in Suggestions   

    Language filter for more chat channels.
    This is mostly an issue for the EU side of the game where a wider variety of languages are spoken. I know there are also French-Canadians and others on the NA side too though, so perhaps this would benefit NA as well.
    In short: this is a petition to pretty please give us the option to use the language filter in chats other than the Channel-Chat it's currently limited to.

    I would like to request this be made available to the General-Chat. Roleplayers would also greatly appreciate it being made available in the Roleplay-Chat as well. We've had a lot of language clutter and it'd be really helpful to have this option clearing things up for those who want it.
     
     
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  10. Faine added a post in a topic [RP] A ROLEPLAYING WISHLIST   

    Belated thank you to Daum for the RP channel!
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  11. Faine added a post in a topic [RP] A ROLEPLAYING WISHLIST   

    Many thanks to Daum for the improved chatbox length!
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  12. Faine added a post in a topic Server selected by guilds [Summary]   

    So everyone and their mother is going Jordine (if you'll permit the exaggeration)?

    How's that going to work overpopulation wise?
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  13. Faine added a post in a topic [OOC - EU RP] Deciding on an unofficial RP server for launch.   

    UPDATE



    The EN-EU community will be trying to make Jordine our roleplaying home and we invite anyone who wishes to roleplay with us to join us.

    Sorry again for all of the confusion.

    Channels have not been decided yet, but I will update this post when we know more.
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  14. Faine added a topic in Roleplay   

    [OOC - EU RP] Deciding on an unofficial RP server for launch.
     
    I'm very sorry but I am cancelling this poll.

    I've reason to believe that non-roleplayers are attempting to influence this poll.
    This has become a mess and we can't take these results seriously anymore.

    A NEW POLL WILL TAKE PLACE OVER ON BLACKDESERTROLEPLAYERS.COM for the international roleplaying community.
    This will guarantee all votes are made by roleplayers, especially those interested in roleplaying with the English speaking community.

    This will be a yes or no poll for Jordine. I'm basing this on the previous beta vote, and on where roleplayers have primarily expressed interest in this thread. I'm sorry to any genuine roleplayers who still want to go to Alustin. If that's the case, take your vote to blackdesertroleplayers.com. It will still be listened to!

    Thank you and I'm sorry to anyone this inconveniences.
    WE WILL STILL ANNOUNCE HERE WHAT THE RESULTS ARE ON FRIDAY OR SATURDAY.
     
    UPDATE



    The EN-EU community will be trying to make Jordine our roleplaying home and we invite anyone who wishes to roleplay with us to join us.

    Sorry again for all of the confusion.

    Channels have not been decided yet, but I will update this post when we know more.
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  15. Faine added a post in a topic [OOC - EU RP] Deciding on an unofficial RP server for launch.   

    I'm very sorry but I am cancelling this poll.

    I've reason to believe that non-roleplayers are attempting to influence this poll.
    This has become a mess and we can't take these results seriously anymore.

    A NEW POLL WILL TAKE PLACE OVER ON BLACKDESERTROLEPLAYERS.COM for the international roleplaying community.
    This will guarantee all votes are made by roleplayers, especially those interested in roleplaying with the English speaking community.

    This will be a yes or no poll for Jordine. I'm basing this on the previous beta vote, and on where roleplayers have primarily expressed interest in this thread. I'm sorry to any genuine roleplayers who still want to go to Alustin. If that's the case, take your vote to blackdesertroleplayers.com. It will still be listened to!

    Thank you and I'm sorry to anyone this inconveniences.
    WE WILL STILL ANNOUNCE HERE WHAT THE RESULTS ARE ON FRIDAY OR SATURDAY.
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  16. Faine added a post in a topic [OOC - EU RP] Deciding on an unofficial RP server for launch.   


    As one of the site moderators, I can assure you it's very active.  The EU community is smaller than NA (we always will be), but we're building things up now and have a great community forming.
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  17. Faine added a post in a topic [OOC - EU RP] Deciding on an unofficial RP server for launch.   

    It's true. Now I'm cynically waiting for Daum to decide that the opposite server to the one everyone chooses is the official RP one after all. Or for them to only give us an RP channel in the wrong server. Although if we're divided, one server will always be the wrong server for someone.

    Daum, please don't do this.

    @CM_Jouska, please be aware of the situation on the off chance it makes any difference.
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  18. Faine added a post in a topic [OOC - EU RP] Deciding on an unofficial RP server for launch.   

    I understand MacMardigan (and your English is very good by the way). I share in your disappointment, which is the only reason I'm at all upset. It's a frustrating situation which I wish there was an easy solution for. 
    Thank you to everyone for being so understanding, by the way. I know this all looks very bad so I appreciate that people are willing to give me the benefit of the doubt here. Whatever happens, I hope everyone is able to find a roleplay community they're happy in.
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  19. Faine added a post in a topic [OOC - EU RP] Deciding on an unofficial RP server for launch.   


    I know you can only take my word for it, but this is genuinely not the intention and I am genuinely sorry for the trouble caused. Had this poll originally been meant for the entirety of the EU community and not just those speaking English, and could I be certain that votes were not being influenced by non-roleplayers, things would be different, but as it is right now I do not think the results on this thread are a fair indication of anything either. So I had to make an ugly decision on behalf of those concerned, myself included, and it's one I am not 100% happy with myself.
    We would still like one multi-lingual roleplayer server for the sake of those who are multi-lingual. That was all this was ever about really, since those who only roleplay in one language will not interact with others anyway. However, I fully recognise the trouble that the German community - and other languages for that matter - have in trying to figure out where to go on account of not wanting to find themselves stranded on a server where their language is not widely spoken. 
    There is no easy solution I can offer to this. I wish that I could. Had Daum just given us a clear RP tag for one place, all of this would have been far simpler but unfortunately it seems that's not to be. RP channels may still be a thing for all I know, but it would seem we won't get a whole server marked for it.
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  20. Faine added a post in a topic [OOC - EU RP] Deciding on an unofficial RP server for launch.   


    I know. I'm very sorry for the extra confusion I have created in the German side of the roleplay community. I don't know exactly what's going on over there, my understanding of German is very limited, but it sounds as though you were divided already though, and I'm not sure this poll would've swayed anyone's mind if they were already set on where they were going.
    The reason I have decided to not just run with the result here is because I feel the English-speaking voice is important but we have had no separate poll like the French and German communities have. The vote has become a mess where it's no longer clear who is voting or why, which is all the worse if there are non-roleplayers influencing it as well. The reason I don't want non-roleplayers votings is because this should be representative of roleplayers, not of those who want to sway it for whatever their own reasons are. 
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  21. Faine added a post in a topic [OOC - EU RP] Deciding on an unofficial RP server for launch.   


    Yes, I am very well aware that it looks like that's what's happening here.
    However, this was a poll made first and foremost for the english-speaking international roleplay community many of whom are based on blackdesertroleplayers.com. It was not originally our intention to encourage German and French roleplayers who did not intend to roleplay in English to vote on this poll, only for those German and French roleplayers who wished to roleplay in English to do so. However, when the call was made for all votes to come here, we tried to adapt. There have been some miscommunications and misunderstandings on this and in hindsight I should've cancelled and moved the poll there and then.
    Right now voices are becoming lost in whatever disagreement is going on between some German roleplayers, and in addition there are fears that non-roleplayers have noticed this poll and are trying to sway the vote. Concerned BDORP members would feel better with the poll being held on the BDORP forum, and so that is what I have done.
    This is not an ideal situation at all and I'm genuinely sorry for the confusion. We wanted to be as inclusive as possible, but in doing so have created a mess.
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  22. Faine added a post in a topic [OOC - EU RP] Deciding on an unofficial RP server for launch.   

    I cannot give you 100% proof that this is the case, I'm sorry. I've had to make an unpleasant and no doubt unpopular decision based on limited information, but the concern is very real and I've been receiving complaints from many concerned BDORP members. Since this impacts a large number of people I want to cut this clean and fresh. 
    All I can do is move the debate to a place that is guaranteed to be populated by roleplayers, which is arguably where I should have made it from the start. I made a mistake. Those who still wish to vote can do so there and we can be confident that there's no more confusion.
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  23. Faine added a post in a topic [OOC - EU RP] Deciding on an unofficial RP server for launch.   

    The English-speaking RP community is also trying to organise some hubs! We're making plans over on blackdesertroleplayers.com 

    You can't destroy houses Nhima, but you can live in them! Trade is limited, but you can always RP trade. Breaking into them etc. is... well, RP-able, but not a game mechanic again.
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  24. Faine added a post in a topic [OOC - EU RP] Deciding on an unofficial RP server for launch.   

    There will undoubtedly be PvP on both servers, including guilds wars and later castle sieges. It's possible that one server will become more competitive than another, but only if the PvP community makes it so, and many are opposed to the idea so I don't see it happening.
    When I seek a quiet server it's for a smaller population in general, not to avoid PvPers specifically. I'll likely engage in some PvP myself sometimes. But as I said, I've my doubts there'll be a 'quieter' server anyway. Both servers were pretty full during the beta and I imagine it'll be very similar at launch. Whether anything will quieten down after that I don't know.
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  25. Faine added a post in a topic [OOC - EU RP] Deciding on an unofficial RP server for launch.   


    I'm inclined to agree, personally, though I know not everyone does.

    That said, the main problem with designating a 'first server' and 'second server' is that they change position based on their population. I imagine this might be something Daum has done to encourage people to populate both, which makes sense, but it might not be very convenient for us right now.
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