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  1. li3to added a topic in Ranger   

    Lieto' pre-Mediah guide on Ranger
    Hello guys,
    Here is my short guide to pre-Mediah ranger, hopefully some of you will find it useful.
    The information below is considered to be true on Ru servers among most good rangers. We are behind KR in patches but this is probably a good thing for you because you are likely to have similar stuff on EU/NA although some of it may be different. I consider myself a min maxer, so hopefully you will find the guide useful. It's certainly not the most complete guide but it should get you rolling.
    Why ranger?
    To sum it up: not much cc, squishy, scales insanely well with damage, relatively mobile and easy to get started with. In fact as the damage numbers go up being the one who can deal the damage from distance becomes more valuable. You are less prone to ping and lag issues since you kind of do damage in a huge cone in front of you, so it's harder to miss. That warrior might be able to one shot you but if you can one shot him as well you will do it before he will get to you. It’s not amazing pre-mediah but it’s fine, just expect to die a bit 1v1 vs skilled and geared opponents, you ll have your revenge in Mediah. Playing ranger at high level isn't about pressing the fanciest combinations of buttons (other classes get more of that sht) but rather having good positioning, knowing your limits and farming 24/7 to get insane ATP.
    Pre-mediah BiS is: Chest + Gloves from Hebe set (2x socket, non craft able) and Helm + Boots from Zareth set (the one that gives you +stamina on boots). If you will look into it closely you will probably understand why. Having 2 sockets on gloves and chest is absolutely vital because chest gets +200hp and gloves get +4 attack speed from gems which is the only way to go. Literally. You add Zareth because stamina is vital for ranger, it might not look as such but it's your best choice nevertheless. Agery is a decent starter alternative but it's not as good.
    Other parts are pretty straightforward — get stuff with more +attack and possibly some +hit. As a freshly dinged 50 get Bares +1 asap (you can afford it), and then work on BiS: witch earrings, blue cultist rings, ogre neck, tree spirit belt.
    Steel offhand vs Bronze. Bronze is better in pvp when unbuffed, steel is better when buffed and in PVE. Also steel becomes the only choice once boss set is available.. Overall i recommend going steel. Having both wouldn't be terrible if you are rich. Having just bronze is probably a bad idea because it will cripple your farming  (and that's what you are going to do 95% of your time in the game)
    Weapon: Liverto >>>>> Yuria > Aswoll >>>>>>>> everything else.
    BIS are: Chest (2x 100hp), Helm (+50hp), Gloves (2x +2atspeed), boots (+25% knockdown resist), weapon (+1ats +1crit or/and infinity extraction). Attack speed is the most vital part. Get those asap, it’s next level.
    First of, there is no "skill build". 50 is hardly a soft cap since you ll get to 51 in roughly 25-30 hours of grinding and that will get you massive amount of SP. There are some priorities though, you might not be able to take it all right away but it's not a big deal, just keep working towards it. Evasive explosion shot rank 1 > (personal preference) Bow mastery max > Blasting gust max > Will of wind max > max evasive shot at 41 > Ultimate charging wind max > Spirit healing max. Around level 53 max feather or razor wind or both and consider maxing explosive shot for pvp. By that time you will figure out what to pick next (don’t forget to get Call from Sky and Flow: Kiss of wind when you have SP for it)
    As a fresh 50 consider something similar to this: http://www.blackdeserttome.com/calculator/ranger/7906#
    Skills awakening:
    5% of hp damage on will of win, 10% slow on blasting gust, everything else i d go attack speed or slow (up to you), having crit or +attack isn't the end of the world as well. Same goes for minus enemy attack speed (it's nice to have it on something). To change skill awakening you will need a thing that looks like yellow cookie and should be called "memory fragment" and drops from relic bosses spheres. Basically you use it to get an extra roll. Potentially you might spend a lot of those before you get perfect awakenings. It's might not be your first priority but make sure you do at some point past level 51 or so.
    Level explosive shot to rank 1 on level 20, max bow mastery when you have spare points. Afterwards find a bunch of mobs, hold A (D or S), RMB and keep clicking LMB. You will spend days doing just that. Go to catfish on level 46 and stay there till 53. If you have gem of infinity extraction in your weapon and explosion shot rank 1 and maxed spirit healing your farming should be sustainable (no mana pots required). At 53 you have a choice — max razor wind and go to tree spirits or max feather and stay at catfish. Catfish gives you twice or trice more exp while tree spirits might get you x1.5-x2 more money.
    Note: some people do use will of wind for farming cultists — that's legit, but catfish doesn't really need Will of wind.
    All purpose sustainable farm, groups of mobs: explosive shot rank 1
    Single target sustainable farm: razor wind
    Post level 53 weak groups fast eradication: feather
    Post level 53 strong groups farm: will of wind + explosive shot
    Important: One thing that would increase your farming time DRAMATICALLY is getting high grade knowledge of the mobs you are killing, aim for at least A+. You can drop the knowledge at Calpheon library for 10 labour points, keep doing it till you roll A+ or S, the difference is massive, mobs go from being tough to being paper.
    Daily PVP:
    This topic is covered in many video guides so here are few basics. There are three skills that you will use: Q (Blasting gust), F (Will of wind), Space (Ultimate charging wind). You unlock your combos at level 41 with learning ultimate evasive shot so make sure to learn it. Both Q and F combos into Space which is your main source of insane-wtf damage (Space is). It looks something like: Hold left/right, hold Q, hold LMB, release Q, hold Space…. drink mana pots. Same with F. Learn to do Blasting gust strafe both to the sides and forward/backwards (hold Q+side+LMB). Learn to use Call from Sky — it’s the only thing that makes you immune to damage (for half a second) while you are in the sky.
    Note: damage from Q is shared among everyone who is hit so you won’t do much damage with mobs around. Space and F damage do get somewhat reduced but not that much. So your typical encounter on spot would look like Q knockdown - A-F-LMB-Space-Hold until target dies. You got the idea. If you maxed evasive shot (which you should at some point) it will stun enemies around you for a brief moment so whenever something charges into your melee do evasive shot flip + F + LMB + Space while it’s stunned. A more fancy move would be to get close to your target (jump on it's head) with call from sky and as you move forward attack it from the back with the same combo which would do more damage.
    Mass PVP:
    It’s all about picking the right time and right place to go all in (and being full buffed with alchemy). You do most damage with "space" which is relatively low range. So during most encounters you try to flank your enemies, unload your mana, hide your weapon and shift + run away to recover lost hp and mana. Some would do feather, but pre-median it’s relatively inefficient unless 10 archers are doing it back to back. Use Q to chase or run away, use explosive shot backwards to run away (since it stuns those around you). Use Call from Sky to avoid damage. Assist your team mates by using Q for a knockdown and Flow kiss of wind (or kill everyone). Some would say that you need to defend archers, personally i feel better when i am alone. In any case archer should only be exposed for a very brief moment of time: between he goes all in up till the point when he runs out of mana (3 seconds) so i d rather not have giant running around the woods with me to protect me.
    Note: remember that your damage will be somewhat split among those who are hit with it, so the more people you hit the less damage they will take. You aim to kill rather than "deal damage" so make sure you engage 1-3 enemies at a time and kill them.
    Keep as much of those as you can at the same time. Serendian treat is a must for any kind of offensive activity. Calpheon is a good defensive option and consider drinking tea (hehe) as it helps with levelling. Alchemy should be pretty self explanatory. For PVE consider putting experience, health regen on hit and whatever cheap ones you can get your hands on, faster clearing time won't hurt. For PVP absolutely nr.1 "o'sht its PVP time" is +critical damage, it's rather expensive but with this baby your power can double. Overall there are lots of good alchemy options, consider buffing it all when it's time.
    Spending labour points
    First priorities: trying to get liverto weapon from night trader, rolling high knowledge grades on the catfish and levelling the Kaya lake catfish node to at least 5-6. Then spend some to level alchemy, then spend leftover to afk-gather water and process it into purified water which is handy for alchemy. Then look for better ways to spend it yourself: there are plenty.
    Depending on your market you might actually earn something with crafting but what you absolutely must do as soon as you have time / having a break from farming is getting at least few human workers in each town and sending them to get wood/ore from nearby nodes. Stay online 24/7 so that they never stop working. Selling whatever they gather is a good source of passive income and you will use some of those to craft things for yourself. It might not look like much but after a week or two when your workers level up you might notice that you are actually richer than you were before. 
    Later when you have a lot of wood you might want to start making packs which probably needs a guide on its own. To cover it briefly — you process (chop) the wood through pressing "L", and then use it to do packs through lumber processing facilities in your town. Packs are trade goods so you just carry those to the furthest connected city and sell it.
    Random stuff:
    Consider switching Q and E on your keyboard and assigning middle mouse button to right mouse button and right mouse button to side mouse button (for easier forward strafing) — forward strafing requires you to turn your camera to the side then press middle button and turn camera back forward and hold it that way as you Q strafe. It's not very easy to pull out holding the fiddly mouse wheel.
    Lastly, there are Diminishing returns on your control so keep track of that (it's shown next to your character)
    Enjoy your ranger.
    p.s. i did create an account on EU but i am not playing here actively. Feel free to ask if you have any questions.
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  2. li3to added a post in a topic Accuracy Explained - UPDATED 04/06/2016 - Read the first post - Third Document released!   

    The bow enchantment has massive effect on accuracy. I wouldn't even test it below +15 i think.
    Also special attacks sometimes have different hit rate than normal attacks because evasion works different for those 2.
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  3. li3to added a post in a topic Ranger CC's   

    You can somewhat cancel with back+Q+LMB flow skill
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  4. li3to added a post in a topic Evasive Explosion Shot - Awakening   

    I wouldn't bother rolling for it on purpose, from what i remember it doesn't help all that much, just stick with something like attack speed if you can roll it.
    Do you have spirit healing? Usually it doesn't matter if you drink pots (you can use cheaper ones, they are still effective), what does matter is wether you can carry enough pots to keep yourself going before you run out of durability and carrying weight for your loot (usually around 50 minutes to an hour).
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  5. li3to added a post in a topic Ranger CC's   

    Our most used form on control on 53 onwards is rank 3 explosive shot - it stuns all enemies around you for roughly 1.5-ish seconds.
    Combo BG into it if you know that you won't have the damage to kill the target right away.
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  6. li3to added a post in a topic The better player gets griefed, cool!   

    1. Ask nicely.
    2. Warn that you will kill him and that there are equally good spots nearby that he can use (you can preset those messages on alt+shift+1)
    3. Shoot at him.
    4. Kill him.
    5. Shoot at him again.
    6. Kill him again.
    7. Follow him for a while outdpsing and taking the mobs.
    8. If nothing form the above worked, alt+f4 and change the channel
    While it may look like a problem (it is a problem) it will get fixed later on when dying penalty will actually hurt (you do have the penalty, right?)
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  7. li3to added a post in a topic Lieto' pre-Mediah guide on Ranger   

    Fully upgraded grunil is somewhat better than 2+2 but i wouldn't bother if you have resources to go for boss set. Sleeping on bed and trying night trader should get you most of the pieces within 2-3 weeks, expect to spend around half of a billion though.
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  8. li3to added a post in a topic Questions about color upgrading   

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  9. li3to added a post in a topic Lieto' pre-Mediah guide on Ranger   

    Few comments:
    1. 5dp + 2 damage resistance +15% knockdown resistance increases your survivability comparable to if not more than 100hp.
    2. Being great at managing your stamina doesn't change the fact that having more stamina let's you do more things in a fight. Not all your fights are going to be 1v1. You can drink mana pots but there are no stamina pots so having as much stamina as possible is crucial.
    3. I am pretty sure EU/NA got great players, but personally i am playing this game for over a year, being in the top1 hardcore pvp guild on RU and probably among top 3 rangers there, Am i impressed by the guy with full heve? No.
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  10. li3to added a post in a topic Lieto' pre-Mediah guide on Ranger   

    Catfish is the best spot in terms of getting experience so i'd say stay on catfish till 53. 53 should get you to within 2-3% of server population in terms of level so you might choose to stop there and go farm tree spirit for money. Money would probably help you more than level will at that point.
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  11. li3to added a post in a topic ap/dp   

    On RU you couldn't upgrade into gold on earlier patches but you could craft it, so it's likely that you can do it as well.
    Liverto is still bis though.
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  12. li3to added a post in a topic Lieto' pre-Mediah guide on Ranger   

    My point is that you are trying to devalue key ranger stats saying it's "personal preference". I am sorry, but it's not. 
    Any ranger needs DP, CC resistance, all attack resistance and stamina and the amount of those stats you get with 2+2 heavily outweight 100 hp. Wether you think it doesn't work or not needed or not useful for you personally is rather irrelevant. You can wear whatever you want but it's not "personal preference", it's poor understanding of your class and in-game mechanics. Even if you are really bad and don't know how to use more stamina to your advantage or don't use the stamina at all i'd say the amount of EHP (including knockdown resistance) you get from Zareth outweighs 100 hp.
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  13. li3to added a post in a topic ap/dp   

    +2 rings and earrings
    +1 spirit belt and ogre
    +15 liverto / steel dagger
    This is as far as top players will get before Mediah. Should probably get you around 130-140 attack.
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  14. li3to added a post in a topic Lieto' pre-Mediah guide on Ranger   

    While certain abilities do make some classes more tanky having 260 armour in a boss set certainly makes my archer more tanky thank say a giant in a grunil with 220 armour. If you throw same amount of sht at us you will see my character taking virtually no damage, so you shouldn't underestimate armour, evasion and resistances of any sort. Those work equally good on all classes and dead characters don't do damage.
    And ye, your argument about stamina is a bit funny because same argument can be made about hp — when you start spamming hp pots it almost doesn't matter what your base hp was. Right? Except for it does matter what is your maximum hp and your maximum stamina. In fact stamina is your active defence while armour and hp are your passive defences. F-strafe uses 0 mana and can be used to reliably get away / reposition. If you consider yourself skilled player you should value active defence more.
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  15. li3to added a post in a topic Lieto' pre-Mediah guide on Ranger   

    It's not just 5DP it's also +2 resist to all attacks and while i don't know how exactly does it work the defensive boost you get from golden zareth helm can certainly be comparable to 100hp. At that point you get 200 stamina and 15% knockdown resist virtually "for free" AND you don't need to worry about loosing those stones either. 
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  16. li3to added a post in a topic Lieto' pre-Mediah guide on Ranger   

    So let me get this straight:
    +200 max stamina that lets you fight or run away for 10% longer means nothing
    Knockdown resistance that gives you 15% to not get knocked down and die 100 to 0 means nothing (that is 15 duels out of 100 that you loose straight away)
    5% of extra armour and resistances means nothing
    but 6% more hp makes a whole lot of difference. Am i interpreting you correctly? This sounds extremely absurd to me tbh.
    Spirit healing works with explosive shot.  
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  17. li3to added a post in a topic Lieto' pre-Mediah guide on Ranger   

    My point is that flat out difference of 2+2 vs 3+1 is
    200 stamina + knockdown resistance + armor + resistance to all attacks through upgrades vs
    50 hp and 1 socket
    You can choose the later but i can't see how it can be viewed as a better option on any scale of imagination tbh. Lets not forget Zareth is usually cheaper as well.
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  18. li3to added a post in a topic Lieto' pre-Mediah guide on Ranger   

    Not true. Zareth boots offer 200 stamina which you can't get with gems before Mediah and after Mediah it's exactly 200. So it gets a gem as an effect. Let's not forget you can upgrade Zareth into gold which will give it more armour and resistances. 
    Knockdown resist on Zareth helm is also not really worse than a gem slot.
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  19. li3to added a post in a topic Bronze Versus Steel Dagger   

    Serendia special
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  20. li3to added a post in a topic Bronze Versus Steel Dagger   

    I recommend doing another set with +hit food which you should have on you 24/7.
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  21. li3to added a post in a topic Accuracy for the ranger class   

    It's safe to say that you should have +hit food at all times and that would be a start of making bronze dagger obsolete.
    It will become more obsolete if you have +hit rings which is a good choice if you don't have money to enchant blue rings
    It will become even more obsolete if you have enchanted tree spirit belt.
    It will become completely obsolete after you have Bheg gloves and Zaka.
    Let's not forget that during important pvp encounters you will also have +hit alchemy as well. All of that being said, i find it hard to justify investing money into bronze dagger. 
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  22. li3to added a post in a topic Defeating Orges Quickly?   

    One minute might be normal on your gear level. It doesn't matter all that much since their respawn timer is like 10 minutes anyway.
    Max level razor wind will fasten the process.
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  23. li3to added a post in a topic Rate my gear and give me opinions   

     More stamina = longer fighting uptime
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  24. li3to added a post in a topic Lieto' pre-Mediah guide on Ranger   

    Up to you really. Feather is really good for farming weak mobs and sometimes on sieges. I would go for feather first. Some people really like penetrating wind — i am not one of those, i like to get close and personal and just gib people without any CC. If you take a look at shotgun videos that is kind of what he is doing as well. You do cast this skill once in a while but w/e.
    Make sure to have the food buff rolling (the  one that gives you accuracy) and test afterwards. 
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  25. li3to added a post in a topic Ranger, How To PVP?   

    its food buff that gives you +hit +ap and +1 crit
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