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  1. ith the very near arrival of the long awaited Ninja/Kunoichi classes and the constantly changing skills of all the other classes I think it's time that the life skill exchange coupons be available to players.

    Many people have waited an exceptionally long time for the Ninja & Kunoichi. In that time players have been acquiring and upgrading the armor as well as delving into the life skills on a class they will shelve when these two classes finally come out. Some people really enjoy their life skills but because of the delay on the release of these two classes they have been hemmed into acquiring the xp for life skills on a class they won't be using as a main. 

    There have also been some very recent changes to classes that has completely changed the play style of them (particularly sorc) and as such I have seen a lot of talk about people quitting over it or swapping character mains. The sorcs that didn't see this coming have probably also invested a lot of time into the life skills.

    In both cases it will take a long time to get skills up to or near a level that they are currently. I daresay that the changing play style of other classes may change in future and those who main a sorc will not be the only ones to experience the will to change class.

    Thus I propose that the life skill exchange coupon now be available for players to acquire. The life skill exchange coupons should allow player to transfer all life skill levels and XP from one character to another of their choice.
    I personally think it should be available to acquire for a large sum of loyalty points as this particular issue will affect the long time players or those who have invested a lot into their mains. Having acquired a large sum of loyalty already this wouldn't really be an issue.

    To have the item available for purchase via the cash shop is also viable but then that raises the question of P2W. I can't see any way this item could be abused to win in any way besides possibly swapping life skills on an alt on the other side of the map to complete a quest. To mitigate this abuse there should be a cool down period before another coupon can be used on the account again.
    Feel free to discuss  
  2. Hello again everyone. So I was just thinking about the release of Ninja being delayed until July. and then i saw that Valencia was also delayed as well.

    Now I understand that ninja was delayed for "Balancing" reasons, but that patch hit korea just a few days ago. Here's the patch notes http://bbs.black.game.daum.net/gaia/do/black/update/read?articleId=301&pageIndex=1&bbsId=BDN002
    i saw this from a post on the Valencia Delay thread, I forgot the player name, but credit goes to him, not me. Anyways he also put another link on the post which is from a KR streamer and he talks about the changes, Basically, all they did was increase the damage before they get their awakening. here's the link to that: https://youtu.be/1cr_nCt93HM?t=10m
    Now that the patch is in for Ninja, and Valencia has been delayed, isn't a good idea to release ninja for the people that wanna play it and this gives them Time to catch up to the rest of the classes. and the EXP event got extended by a week. which is awesome. Can someone Tag CM_Jouska? i don't know how to tag him. Anyways thanks for reading and hopefully one of the CMs sees this just so they can think about it.

    EDIT: People have already Tagged CM_Jouska. Please don't spam tag him, This thread needs to stay open. Also This is not a thread about begging for ninja's release. it's about a suggestion and im hoping a CM will reply to it, no matter what the answer is. Please keep your posts related to the thread and keep what i said in mind. Open to any other suggestions (So post them if you have any)
  3. ...pour grind h24/7 : tamer ou ranger ? 
    Pros/Cons s'il vous plait 

    p.s : pas de gandalf
     
  4. Peut être que ça a déjà été fait, j'ai pas cherché. C'est pour en gros avoir une idée de qui joue quoi sur le fofo, votre main.
    Ca peut aussi donner un aperçu des classes les moins jouées du jeu pour ceux que ça intéresse.
    Hésitez pas à faire un commentaire du pourquoi du comment..

  5. Post on Nerfed Classes in PVP

    By Talon__, posted
    I don't spend a lot of time on the forums, so I have no idea how much this is being discussed. Is it even remotely arguable that Archers and Sorc aren't broken (comparatively, to any other class)? Is it arguable that Blader isn't useless?
    If not:
    Why then, was Blader nerfed on launch? I mean, yeah, "because their awakening came out in KR," but does that really justify releasing them in this state? I am not aware of all the updates in KR, but according to some people: Archer was also nerfed in KR. If it's nerfed there, because there was an obvious imbalance and there very clearly still is, then why isn't it nerfed here? If nerfing a class is intrinsically to create balance, and Musa was nerfed (to the point that it is virtually useless), yet there remains imbalance, why nerf anything at all? It can't be nerfed here. Coming to the realization that it may have already happened is unacceptable in its current state.

    To further add more food for thought to this metaphorical toilet: Why would you remove i-frames from Chase (off cooldown), when there is already a class that abuses them to the point of appearing to have no physical form (purple smoke) outside of their cat-scratchings, and that does so using a self-replenishing resource instead of WP(Willpower, i think)?
    In a game where level and gear means so much you release a class late, nerf it into its grave, and ignore the other imbalances so that anyone who was hoping to play said class on release is underleveled, and 90% more likely to be undergeared since its very likely they hadn't wasted however much time since launch on a character they had hoped they would eventually never want to play on again.
    Do you guys just hate weebs or something? Do you like Simpsons porn?
    I sincerely hope Ninja is safe from whatever scat-fetishist developer is coming up with these changes.
    ps: wasn't this supposed to be like, an action game or something? why is gear/level more important than skill?
  6. Hello BDO Community!
     
     
    I am fairly new to the game (2 and 1/2 weeks of playing). I have been struggling with settling on a class up to this point. I have a 36 Valkyrie, 23 Wizard, 20 Tamer, and level 10 Berserker. I've been reading a lot about awakening. I seem to be confused on the topic. It seems from the way people talk about awakening balance, that awakened weapons (such as the greatsword for warrior) are already in the game here on NA. Is this the case? If so how do we get awakened weapons for the classes that have it? I have a few more follow up questions, ill put them as bullet points.
     
    At what level can a class obtain an awakened/awakening weapon?Do we NEED awakened weapons to compete? I notice the Ranger awakened weapon is an elemental sword. But, if you prefer the bow play style, would you fall behind in power by sticking with the bow?When/if awakening does come to NA, will every class having a weapon? Or will some classes have it, and others have to wait for a future patch?Is there a separate skill tree for awakened/awakening? If so, what happens to all of our other skills that we've put points into?When is awakening expected to come out on NA if it isn't already out?Then, I have just a generic question. For those of you who have been playing for a long time. Which awakened weapon are you most excited about? Are you changing classes to play something that seems more appealing? Or, do you like the new style being brought with the awakened weapon of the class you've invested the most time into?
  7. Greetings CM_Jouska

    This is not a QQ and begging for Ninja's release, Just so you know, Im just here to ask a question, your answer could be "Soon" or "Very soon" (Please don't let it be that :D)

    Now I know ninja's been delayed and stuff like that and I'm not looking for an exact date, just wanna know one thing
    Question: Can we expect the classes Before Valencia hits? or after? or with the Valencia Update?
    Thank you and Also I love the game and What you guys do to deal with the problems (Hackers). Keep up the good work
  8. In discussion with some friends, we started talking about the classes that we play most and why. It did not take long to realize that our opinions and difference in play-style worked a big part in why we worked well as a team. However, I realized that i had a bit of a problem. I do not really have a favorite class, as to why i have 7 alts and no main, though technically, my wizard is now. I found the conversation so intreguing, that I brought it here to see what some of the other current players of BDO think, as game reviews often lack that personal touch. Your opinion just might convince someone new to make the same class.
  9. I LOVE this game. I LOVE the Valkyrie and other lightweight, quick classes. But why, praytell, do they all have this stereotypical female "no protection" armor (with some minor exceptions)??
     Most of them MUST wear those aweful looking highheels with EVERY outfit, no way around it, its part of the class. Furthermore many of the Valkyrie and other classes outfits are either dirndles or short dresses. That gets boring very quickly and leaves much to be desired. Also why arent they allowed to have any kind of visible helmet... why is there even a hide funktion if its even there in the first place?? I dont get why the players get so limited on how their character looks. I mean, there ARE nice female armors in the game. Look at Maewa.... the charater is great, well balanced and quite customizable. I feel like there should be more cosmetic options, especialy more and differing outfits. I mean... its a 30€-50€ game. And the stock underwear is made extra plain and ugly, to basicly force you into cashop? Thats no fun and not fair at all. Please dont run this game into the ground with cheaping out on the players. I love it way too much T~T ... and give me my strong female valkyrie O__O i neeeeeeeeeed it
  10. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18wblg-jVhj7We3BeexNaBKMNr-a1XlDlFiaorgA2gao/edit?usp=sharing
    I made a spreadsheet based on my previous thread on class roles, some of my own experience, and some videos on youtube.
    Can people confirm my assumptions? I am trying to start forming a playbook of pvp maneuvers for my guild.
  11. Hello, This is just a general question regarding the Ninja classes getting delayed. Now I'm not asking EXACTLY when they'll be released.

    But, are they going to be released with Valencia Part 1 patch? or Before that? Or even After that depending on when Pearl Abyss balances the class?

    Off-Topic Question: Is this balancing gonna be a nerf or a buff? I put this question on reddit but No one seems to know, Just people complaining about Melee being too squishy :D.

    Keep it friendly please, I'm not here to start a discussion about PVP, Just a simple question or 2 <(^.^<)

    @CM_Jouska (Only if you have time, I understand if you dont wanna answer this question ) "Soon"  Joking Joking
  12. Many PPL in BDO are waiting for Ninja/Kunoichi....
    Ninja/Kunoichi won't released in May !Because of Balancing?? REALLY?!. I'm waiting since/before Game release for this class(my main class). Those classes are the REASON why i started this Game ... . I mean why do they release them that late, balancing?first?,well No BLANCE for SORCERESS, No BALANCE for TAMER, RANGER got Nerfed, No BLANCE for NEW CLASSES(MUSA/Maehwa) but NINJA/Kunoichi needs a BALANCE ??FIRST!? before RELEASE?!. Korea handled this problem too, that's the main reason?... .  Too many Players will be LVL 58+++++ and it will be VERY HARD to reach the same LVL and Gear with those new classes, this WILL be Unbalanced. And its not funny to play other classes just for the release.
    Well New Content is nice and thanks for that, but i CAN'T even enjoy the new content with the Ninja/Kunoichi, so we are forced to play other classes for not being the worst player since release... .
    Please tell me that this is a Late April JOKE please ... .
    And please share this Post, if you're in the same opinion like me.
  13. Hey
    As it's been a few months now, I'm looking for some up-to-date Feedback on How the classes are doing, and which ones you guys find the most fun 
    Wanna Know, What makes them Great for AoE DmG, If they're Fast Paced or Static in movement and attacking, How well they survive (Defensive cooldowns/Heals) and such,
     
    Thanks for your Assistence
     
    Edit. RIP poll.. 250 views on the thread 70 votes on poll.. come on people
  14. Post on End Game class rating in Classes

    By Mefisto, posted
    Hi All,
    I am an old wow player, very casual these days and have just purchased Black desert after not playing any game seriously for a year or so.
    I am really keen to dive back into an MMO once more and while I'm waiting for the client to download I thought I would ask some advice
    I am probably going to main a wizard and my alt will probably be a tamer or a melee class (warrior or berserker)
    However can I please get some advice on the end game status of the classes?
    Specifically I would like to know their PVP and PVE end game status but also any relevant MUST KNOW stuff before I devote 50+ hours into something
     
    BTW -- My main toons over the years in wow were a frost mage for pvp lolz and a lock played all three specs mainly for pvp. Most of my time was spent either grinding or in end games bg's hence my curiosity about the end game status of the classes
  15.                                                                                                          To start off
                                 if your part of the toxic side of the community who will swear that everything about this game is perfect
                                                  please get the hell off this topic, you are a cancer that causes the death off games.
     
    This is mostly just going to be my thoughts on the current condition of BDO (NA Version) <<<Stupid Shit<<<
    and some rough ideas that have been shot around my community for some time
    I hope some might spark some interest in the developers, if they might ever come across them.

    This will not be in any order of importance or any other sorting
    and just as it comes to mind.
     
    Now...
    First the lack of variety/forced playing style in the combat, all classes can only be specd towards offensive roles with no proper tank or
    support roles at all, some people might be okay with this but for the most part me and my group/guild have found this to be a serious
    draw back and ruining enjoyment of this game. From watching a few dozen youtubers play through BDO it would seem to be a opinion
    outside of the communities I am a active part of, I am not saying that the game needs the full blown Trinity but the roles need a serious
    improvement. You can do so quite easily without breaking lore or taking anything away from the game as it stands.

    I could go on about how the NA version is missing the classes a lot of people want to play and there is zero excuse for why
    they where not brought across from the Korean version. When I'm trying to sell this to my mates and fellow guild members
    trying to make your company money a big thing that pushes most people away are the classes and lack of variety especially with the
    character customization. What is this Star Wars? You see a thousand of the exact same looking people only difference is
    the colour of their hair all characters look the same no matter what you do in the character creation process.

    Person: "Oh the ninja looks cool"            Me: "Ahh that's not in yet"          Person: "Hmmm, How about the blader?"         Me: "That's not in either but but it's coming hopefully?" 

    Roles/Classes that could bring a massive improvement to the variety in combat.

    Tank/Fighter Roles

    Add a Paladin you have a Valkyrie why not bring in the male counterpart?
    not everyone wants to be a female, whenever this is mentioned on the forum the white knights
    scream out sexist, this has nothing to do with that, Some people enjoy playing as a male character.
    A lot of people like building a story and world around their character they are going to spend
    hundreds or Thousands of hours with their character, so some people maybe want to reflect 
    a certain type of character other then some warrior princess.
    Just because you don't want to doesn't mean others don't there is nothing wrong
    giving players the choice of how they shape their character in a MMO.

    A Paladin easy to set up you already have knights in the kingdom wearing light-mid golden or black plate armor, 
    a mid shield more decorative then average and a hammer/mace or a two handed hammer, even tho I would hate
    to see it race locked you could even work it into bring a Dwarf character. You have dwarfs you have plate armor
    everything's already in the game and lore you could easily bring in a Paladin as a support tank for males.

    You could also expand underneath the church in Calpheon to give them a guild hall of sorts you
    have the doorways there and bricked off to use. You have the Valkyries on high as the main order
    then have the Paladins as a somewhat Freemason order a hidden away secret society of sorts.

    With a Paladin brought in you would then need a female counterpart for the warrior
    which there are many female non-valkyrie NPCs in the game simple you could bring in
    a Battle Maiden/Shield Maiden still lore friendly, easy to implement have it as a medium 
    between the next Role I am going to suggest next and the warrior. 

    Two new classes similar to current ones but can be molded in their own unique way to make different roles

    Next is something every group I have been with has wished for a Dedicated Tank not some mobile garbage,
    this person is there to bring everything in on them and pull the agro off their damage dealers and healers
    to many times have we had multiple tanks up front of the group but the enemy will ignore them no matter 
    what skills they use. They cannot draw the agro and do the job of a tank making them pointless in group
    events or just small group grinding.

    I am going to use a anime as a example of a perfect tank role (Log Horizon)
    more specifically Naotsugu from the guild Log Horizon as the Guardian class
    It's got the ability to hold like a fortress against most attacks and bring in the
    agro of clutter mobs and bosses. It is the front line and a crucial component to any 
    proper group strategy without it mobs are running in every direction attacking whoever is
    outputting the most damage. 

    A large Human or Giant clad in full plate ready to take a hit and have an imposing appearance on
    any battlefield or dungeon. Wielding a sword in one hand and a massive tower shield in the other.
    Few offensive abilities but a large amount of taunt's lockdown abilities and rage building abilities,
    Slow but capable of taking massive amounts of damage.

    Going along with the Log Horizon inspired roles 

    Support roles 

    Alchemist/Enchanter 
    These two roles could be combined

    Alchemist A healer and some anti-debuff a full group support role with few offensive abilities
    of coarse this would make it hard to level up solo but the end reward would be quite worth it
    a class that could use splash potions or earth related magic similar to rangers possibly 
    a Female Shia or Half-animal. it would fit nicely with the town of Florin set around alchemy filled with Shia.

    Enchanter A buffer and full group support with the offensive ability to lay traps similar to the
    Alchemist but possibly focused more on darker magic like the sorceress. Not a class I myself 
    would play but I have had a few people bring up relatively this exact thing

    Ranged

    Pirates This has been joked about nearly every time I'm with others fishing out in boats but it does
    have the possibility to work as a dedicated class without being completely over the top and ridiculous 
    you could go the European route and have plain old pirates or you could go with a more Asian kind
    like the Wokou possibly even bring the flintlock/matchlock rifles/pistols in as a usable weapon 
    As with the Enchanter this doesn't personally interest me as I always prefer a bow and arrow over a rifle
    in this kind of game but I have had many people bring this one up as a class they would like to see.

    Summery of Roles
    Paladin                                                   - Support Tank/Magic Tank - Counterpart of the Valkyrie
    Battle Maiden/Shield Maiden               - Mobile Tank                      - Counterpart of the Warrior
    Guardian                                                - Tank
    Alchemist                                               - Healer/Support                 - Counterpart of Enchanter
    Enchanter                                              - Buffer/Support                  - Counterpart of Alchemist
    Pirate                                                      - Gunpowder Ranger         - Counterpart of Ranger

    As I have other things to do I am going to have to cut this short but if I am able to add to this I shall either in the comments of this or
    with a new topic post linked back to this. All of these classes could easily work in the lore of BDO and if some of these have been
    spoken of before I am sorry. I didn't look into this matter to much as I was writing what myself and those around me have echoed their
    opinions of what this game needs to be truly perfect and hell if they have to make some of these classes expansions with story lines
    added around them I am more then happy to pay for that as I have done for years with World of Warcraft, with that said I do not want
    to see this become another WoW clone it's unique and that is remarkable. The suggestions are just to improve upon what has been
    established in this game without taking away from anything
  16. I was thinking that I spend a lot of time in character creation like many of you. My suggestion is that the character creation launcher that was given before the game's release (which was awesome, thanks daum team), becomes available again. Being it available all the time or a just 1 week before a character is released so that we can create the character and as soon as it's available, upload the file and play with it right away.
    Let me know what you think.
     
  17. Do any of you think we might ever see a playable fox-person race? They apparently exist in Mediah.
    Daum, pls.
  18. When will we see the new classes added in game? (Blader/Ninja, etc)
    Well I guess that the line for me, been waiting a long time for some dates and yet they still give vague answers. was hoping to main Ninja, but guess that wont happen for a long time. Such a shame, its a great game but with a bad incompetent  publisher. They just dont understand there are many of us waiting on certain classes to main, to actually start playing the game as intended. I guess they would rather lose more players.
     
    Rant over....
    GG Guys and Gals
  19. http://2p.com/41823917_1/Black-Desert-Online-Future-Update-Includes-New-Playable-Race-Character-and-More-by-Aaron.htm
    The article says "new character" so not really sure if that means a new class or not...o.o but yaaay rest of awakening weps 
  20. Lets get Ninja before Blader pls
  21. So, I've been playing since the Beta, and I've noticed one simple thing that hasn't really been fixed. The NPC dialogue and class recognition. Depending on the Class you choose, you're either a Male or Female, so, it would make logical sense for the NPC's to detect your class, and determine to say "Sir" or "Ma'am", "Him, or "Her", and so on. I've also noticed NPC's speech, knowledge about other NPC's, or in quest-logs referencing another NPC in-game with the wrong gender, or name completely. One example of this can be found in Serendian Territory within Glish, when Caeser is called Chaeser by the Chief, and the quest is actually labelled something along the lines of "Meeting Chaeser". Now, I know it's a lot to complain about, but come on. At least have the NPC's  speak about other NPC's with the correct name and gender, lest they speak to a Ranger by saying "Is he alright?" while seeing the Black Spirit speak to you in the Ancient Stone Chamber. Has anyone else really noticed this, or, in part, bothered by it slightly?
  22. Post on Witch or Ranger? in Wizard/Witch

    By Totamo, posted
    So I'm trying to find a good farming class because my Sorc doesn't really cut it for that til awakenings come out. Which class would you guys suggest for farming? Also, I believe I will go full Grunils with maxed cast speed and crit on my Sorc which would make it more transferable to Witch. 
    What do you guys think? I'm mainly basing this on fun, efficiency, and power.
     
  23. Hi all - I'm currently seeking some guidance/feedback on which class to play as I have just purchased (litterally still downloading..) this game and will be creating my first character this evening when I get back from work.
    From what I have gathered and watched so far on this game are the following ; 
    No Holy-Trinity Concept - Heavy on the side activities (crafting/trading/building networks) - open world dungeons/bosses
    From the previous games WoW/EQ/Wildstar/GW/Tera I have played - I always enjoyed going into the Tank "Class" - the meat sheild - being able to absorb lots of damage and control the enviroment around me/protect other members, however still being able to dish out some damage when solo questing/adventuring at a decent rate (expectation is not to be a pure damage dealer - but still killing stuff before i fall asleep)
    Would you recommend that I roll a Warrior ? - I am seeing alot of negative feedbacks on this class for now - however i could be reading in the wrong places 
    Is there a need to roll a meat sheild in this game? - or should i roll another class which is more tailored to the open world and adventuring in the wild solo/teaming up with other people when needed? Any recommendation to such a character (more Archer/Wizard?)
    Again i understand that each player reacts to each class differently as we each have our own playstyle and I will need to test them out - but im just looking for some constructive feedback on this community current experience.
    Thanks alot for the input and maybe see you in game soon!
    Dieusx
  24. Hi all - I'm currently seeking some guidance/feedback on which class to play as I have just purchased (litterally still downloading..) this game and will be creating my first character this evening when I get back from work.
    From what I have gathered and watched so far on this game are the following ; 
    No Holy-Trinity Concept - Heavy on the side activities (crafting/trading/building networks) - open world dungeons/bosses
    From the previous games WoW/EQ/Wildstar/GW/Tera I have played - I always enjoyed going into the Tank "Class" - the meat sheild - being able to absorb lots of damage and control the enviroment around me/protect other members, however still being able to dish out some damage when solo questing/adventuring at a decent rate (expectation is not to be a pure damage dealer - but still killing stuff before i fall asleep)
    Would you recommend that I roll a Warrior ? - I am seeing alot of negative feedbacks on this class for now - however i could be reading in the wrong places
    Is there a need to roll a meat sheild in this game? - or should i roll another class which is more tailored to the open world and adventuring in the wild solo/teaming up with other people when needed? Any recommendation to such a character (more Archer/Wizard?)
    Again i understand that each player reacts to each class differently as we each have our own playstyle and I will need to test them out - but im just looking for some constructive feedback on this community current experience.
    Thanks alot for the input and maybe see you in game soon!
    Dieusx
     
  25. Uno Server
    Family name: Kaboodle
    Character name: Breakfast
    Class: Ranger