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  1. Kurz und bündig:

    Spiel Startet nicht, crasht JEDES mal beim Pearl Abyss Screen. ( Bei der gleichen opacity, während des ausgrauens )
    Bereits versucht: Komplett deinstalliert, Neu installiert. ( Auf allen 4 Laufwerken )
    Prozesse beendet, welche einen einfluss auf die Anti Cheat Engine ( XIGNCode ) haben könnten.
    Version.dat trick angewendet
    Grafikeinstellungen geändert.
     
    Mein System ist ausreichend mit resourcen versorgt. High End.
    Grafikkartensetup: 2x 1080 ( Overkill )
     
    Ich versuche seid 4 Tagen das Spiel zum Laufen zu bringen. NIEMAND hat auf reddit, google oder sonstigem ne Lösung Gefunden, die mir Hilft.
     
     

    Edit: Kompatibilitätsmodus führt zum kompletten verschwinden des Pearl Abyss Symbols, Crasht dann nach +- 10 sekunden trotzdem. Komme nicht mal zum Login Bildschirm.
  2. Hej everyone,
    I've found multiple for-some-people-kinda-working solutions for this problem, but none worked for me.
    After I hit the "Play"-Button, the game launches, shows me the kakaogames and pearl abyss logos, fades to black, plays a little sound after a while and then crashes completely.
    Like I said before, I tried everything I found about this problem, like:
    verify game cachedeinstall skype previewtried every window-option in the settings, including different resolution- and qualitysettingsupdated/reinstalled graphics driver...lot of other stuffBut nothing seems to be working.
    Specs:
    i7-4770k
    1070 GTX
    16GB RAM
    I've added my most recent client.log.
    Anybody got an idea what this could be?
     
    Cheers
    Client_20161225214710.log
     
     
     
    ///////
    Only answering for people who stumble upon this thread via google:
    AutoHotKey kept it from entering the main menu.
    Everything works fine now.
    This Thread can be closed.
  3. Post on one month left in Off-Topic

    By Sophia1129, posted
    you have one month left https://www.facebook.com/Pearl.Abyss.Black.Desert/posts/1020915844597139?hc_location=ufi
     
    if not say SORRY to your block list regions
     
    ~out
  4. #freedom to unserviced countries
    you said that pearl abyss is checking this forums often. so i post it here. the petition that almost blow up to 15k signs. https://www.change.org/p/daum-games-europe-remove-ip-block-from-black-desert-online-na-eu-servers
    "global service is failed" this statement is officially lied to unserviced regions https://www.facebook.com/Pearl.Abyss.Black.Desert/posts/1020915844597139?hc_location=ufi
     
    Pearl Abyss you're too selfish to us so ----- off!!!
    ----- you Pearl Abyss ----- you ~!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emlYncrh5gs
     
     
  5. Greetings and salutations forum users,
    Let me begin my post with an introduction, I've played this game since korean beta, and have always played as a ranger.
    I've been with the class for it's lowest points, it's highest points, but neither of these has felt as unenjoyable as how the class currently feels.
     
    While I believe that the class titled ranger should have a ranged awakening, that is for an entirely different thread, i solely wish to list what bothers me so much about the classes current balance here, and hopefully have my constructive criticism heard.
     
    I'll begin with the most important, and end with the least important;
    1. Useless 100% rage ultimate: Why does this even exist? The long cast point and cast time leave the user defenseless as they are not under block or super armour (which the majority of ults are) and with CC immunity, the ultimates crowd control does not last for the entire duration of the cast, meaning that if you catch someone with the first ticks, they can just gap close on you as you are rooted and kill you, while you can't react.
    Not only that, but the CC and damage are both lackluster and are actually worse than wailing wind without Black Spirit consumption, the flow which knocks enemies down is much better than a stun, it deals more damage and it's way safer to cast.
     
    2. Too much Crowd Control: Rangers have spent more than half a year being the class that has only got 1 knock down, 1 stun and one root, the class with the least crowd control in the game, and yet the class was still in a good place, now we have more stuns and kds than any other awakening, and the skills have other benefits which i will list below on top of that, some of it needs to be removed!
     
    3: Too much super armour and blocks: We don't need a block or super armour, or invincibility frames on every skill, instead give them to the skills which actually NEED it to be viable in combat ( I'm looking at you 100%), please take away some of the blocks or super armours, I'm tired of being able to win face to face brawls just because my enemies can't do anything to me while I 2 shot them, it's unfair and quite frankly, insulting.
     
    4. Durability consumption: The durability consumption of the offhand has been increased drastically since the implementation of brand stones, it was noticeable with bow, and dagger degrades at an insane rate with sword, this needs to be reworked.
     
    5. Mana consumption: (Yes I'm aware this was addressed 2 weeks ago in korea) Mana consumption has always been a trait of ranger's, but it's insane that we can't use any other potion apart from XL with us now due to how much mana we chew through, let us deal less damage but make the skills cost less mana in return, please.
    A skilled player pre- awakening was able to farm effectively using medium sized potions, but unless you want to walk from mob to mob, there's no option like that anymore.
     
    6. It's too easy: I can beat players with my accessories removed with a single combo, it shouldn't be possible for a ranger with 150 awakening AP to insta-gib their opponent who has 260DP, the scaling is just way too insane here.
    And this isn't limited to PVP alone, I can farm at kuit without accessories and still clear my rotation at the same speed as a warrior with 50 more AP, absolutely ludicrous. 
     
    Please Pearl abyss, heed this criticism, not every player wants to be able to be the best without any effort, make the class hard to play again, requiring skill is a good thing, not a bad thing.
    Don't throw the class into the trash like you did during media 1 & 2, instead, balance it  properly and make it challenging, yet rewarding. I'm tired of players being racist to elves, hating us for being overpowered! 
  6. Please add more countries that the game will be available in...
  7. Sometimes after alt-tabbing my game will just be on the Pearl Abyss logo on the black screen. When it happens I have to force-quit the client and relog into the game. This isn't after leaving for hours or anything - I'll just alt-tab to a browser or something and then less than a minute later I'll alt-tab back to the game and it will be stuck on Pearl Abyss for no reason.
    If I let it go, Black Desert will continue to rise in memory use until about 7+GB, at which point it will stop responding, fade white, and close. I can actively play for hours at a time and this ONLY happens during the alt-tab process.
    Any ideas why this might be happening? Is there anything I can do to diagnose this?
  8. Hello forums.
    This is my first post and, well, it's something I feel should be asked about.
    Costumes are quite an important part of a character, for many people. I've seen the upcoming outfits and the two that struck me as odd are the Papilio set, which is for Sorceress only, and the Taught Fallen Crop set, which is for Valkyrie only.
    To me, these outfits don't really fit to the classes they've been limited to.
    When you consider the look and style of the outfits and compare it to the characteristics of those classes - their movements, skills/attacks, weapons - they just seem out of place.
    As if the designer wasn't aware of the classes, beforehand and what they encapsulate.
    Take the Valkyrie: she uses a shortsword and buckler, or lance and buckler. Not things you typically associate with, as the Taught Fallen Crop seems to be, a demon/succubus outfit. This outfit also clashes horribly with her skill effects and "background".
    Same as with the Sorceress: she wields dark/blood magic and a scythe, yet is completely juxtaposed by a butterfly outfit, something you really wouldn't associate with such a dark character.
    Here are some images from bdo-fashion.com
    Papilio

    Taught Fallen Crop

    As you can see the outfits in question are a stark departure from the characteristics of the respective class.
    I like both outfits, but I personally think they would be better suited if they were swapped around. Certainly from a character perspective.
    For now I only want to find out if this is what people would prefer. After that I will make another poll regarding the specifics on how the changes could be made, as the devs would need to change the weapon skins to suit the respective class' weapons.
    Please share your thoughts and if you feel the same way, hopefully, we might be able to convince the dev team to change it, before they're released over here.
    I guess now wasn't the best time to ask. Or no one's  actually bothered...
  9. So this is my one singular attempt at educating people here. I will not be making replies to trolls and will not be promoting ignorance in any way.
    @PM_Jouska
    @CM_Aethon
    First we begin with a minor history lesson. I work in construction and I am pretty tired right now so some things may not be said with the perfect clarity that I wish of it but I am sure that you will be able to at the very least understand the point. I will use no fancy formatting or highlights, this is a simple address to anyone with a mind of their own. Again trolls and little children can remove themselves from this thread as I have not the time for any of it. My oldest will be going to MIT so I have done my job in parenting, I do not wish to do your parents job as well.
    Source: I have been playing online games now for over two decades, thats from the early 90s. I began early on with games such as UO and Quake1 and have played just about everything produced in NA/JP/CN/KR since then, much of it a huge waste of time but thats what games are for us. Jobs for the creators, entertainment for us and this needs to be clearly understood. I have been playing NA BDO for just over one month (started way late), I have an account net worth of >1.2billion silver and 400gscore. I am on Orwen/NA, have been having a blast with BDO and will continue to do so for so long as its servers stay alive.
    Pay to Win, or P2W. This term is being used in every circle of gaming these days and I literally just saw a post of someone stating that it is not a defined term and out of countless posts on that thread nobody stated the truth behind this. P2W is a very clear cut defined term that began many years ago. The very words 'pay to win' are as clear as it can be. The fact that people still say there is no line there is what has driven me to this point. Generally speaking I hold my peace and let what will be, be. As it is, and I have said, I am making one attempt here and one only. I only hope that some will read this and come away with knowledge and help to make a louder voice from truth than the knee jerk reaction of the current loudest general audience in gaming; the self entitled kid.
    Pay to win, as I said is a term that began many years ago. You may open your google/bing/choice browser and search for yourselves and what you will find then is that this term was applied to games during the early years of 'cash shops' that promoted the sale of god tier weapons and armor for real world money. These items were so vastly superior, in most cases even compared to the 'end game' gear attainable in game that if you wished to PvP, or even PvE to a large extent, you had no choice but to buy these items. Its as simple as that.
    Cash shops in general, as well as free to play games were a byproduct of this as it was seen that some things were 'ok' to sell for real money and some were not. This was influenced by peoples perception and the way they reacted to it. Game developers saw a trend beginning and many would-be entertainment makers jumped on board as the money made from these 'micro transactions' or 'cash shops' was more than they would make from the game sales themselves. Keep in mind most games used to be bought in the form of CDs or even waay back the good ol cartridge. This is how we got 'free to play' games in general and the resulting garbage from game developers ever since. People liked the idea of getting games for free, and paying only for what they wanted.
    I know that every real gamer out there can relate to this; spending countless hours on youtube and browser searches for the next 'great' game. Looking endlessly forward to something worth playing. Our expectations have risen to a crescendo over the years as have the 'self entitled' audience. People now -expect- to receive these games for free, and to play them for free indefinitely. This is the very vicious cycle we have created as a gaming community that allows garbage to flood the internet, games and clones of games and clones of those clones that are all indefinitely trash. Little effort into making the game, little into promoting it and even less into maintaining it. It is this mentality that sponsored and allowed to flourish the lack of vision and effort in game developers. This problem has been further enhanced with the ever growing crowd of underaged or simply immature gamers. IE; Self entitlement audience.
    Games used to be for kids. That is not so much the case anymore. The gaming community is comprised now of more 'older generation' gamers than ever before, and that is a direct result of when gaming actually began. It is unfortunate that the loudest and most heard of the gaming community is the immature, irresponsible kids and trolls yet I feel that it is far past time for those of us that are able to comprehend the consequences of our actions to be heard. It is a necessity, a responsibility that we must step up to or I fear that gaming in general, as a whole will turn from bad to non existent in value and worth.
    Here are the facts; we love games. We love to play games and we all but demand these games be entertainment that is up to our standards. We ensure that this can never happen by allowing the games we love to be driven to extinction or worse by self entitled kids and people with absolutely no understanding of the value of our time, money or jobs. Most of the people I have seen spearheading these cries of p2w have obviously never had any mouth to feed but their grubby own. They never had to work for a living, and anyone that believes youtube is a job has even less foundation in reality than the games we play. Your homes wont be built, your cars wont run and the roads wont be repaired by youtube. If you want entertainment, if you want GOOD games that are enjoyable and fun then it is high time to start acting in a way that promotes this in the developers. We are products of our actions as much as the games are a direct result of our voice as gamers. We act, they react. Not -we speak they do-. If you want quality games, be prepared to pay for them. If you want free to play the sad truth is that you aren't wanted by game developers, needed for the promotion of quality standards or in my opinion even welcome in any game that I enjoy. Developers wont say this outright but you are a useless waste of server space save only for adding a head count to their number, which by mockery of our desires is another demand we have on the developers; it has to be popular/high population.
    We will pay $60usd for a PS4 game and spend maybe, stretching it maybe 100 hours on something like final fantasy etc. and thats a huge value. Yet we spend $40 on BDO and spend thousands of hours. What kind of drugs are people on these days to be so ludicrous as to complain over the cash shop which YOU DON'T HAVE TO SPEND A DIME ON yet get 10x or far more entertainment hours out of a game you enjoy? And barring all this, people still brag about WoW yet you must purchase the game, pay a subscription to even log in every month AND buy each and every expansion? AND they have a cash shop too. Even sells T-Shirts.
    For anyone high enough to imagine they should be given an online game in its future entirety from one small initial purchase, grow up. The sooner the better because when real life smacks you in the mouth you may never recover. BDO has given us every expansion for free. They now even give daily log in rewards and they compensate your sorry worthless hides every time they get DDOS or have -omg- extended maintenance. Self entitled, spoiled and useless the lot of you. Honestly you should be ashamed in more ways than one. Worse to those that promote this type of ignorance.
    Oh yeah, 30 60 or 90 days worth of value pack for everyone that bought the game in its various packs as more compensation available to your account via the website, for free.
    Other games which I will not even bother mentioning are still praised, have higher player bases (one even more so than WoW) and allows buying and selling of its subscription on the market as well. Games that require a subscription to even log in. Perception is flawed here. Google some knowledge if you really do not know.
    The very fact that BDO allows you to log in every day, use their bandwidth and tax their servers (which they just upgraded too) without requiring a subscription is not enough for the self entitled. They also demand lower prices for outfits that they either A cannot afford/justify or B cannot talk their parents into affording. B needs to GTFO. I look forward to the day that BDO allows the sales of cash shop items on the player driven market because not only is it absolutely not pay to win (which I will delve into further momentarily) but it will also allow people of the A category above to now purchase these luxury items from within the game. Some could even say this combats pay to win as it allows equal access now to every aspect of the game. Many will see this come to pass and realize that now the billions of silver they have saved up can now be spent on value packs and outfits for their alts without spending even more real money to continue to keep BDO in development and pay its creators to continue this game because others that have the money to spare will do it for them.
    Delving on in as promised; There are many people in BDO with billions of silver with no decrease in sight, gaining passively every day more silver with nothing to spend it on. You argue that selling cash shop items on the market is 'P2W', the rally cry of ignorance is all I hear. People that have played this game since day 1 and work its mechanics properly will never be broke and never see a want for silver. This truth is marked by several distinct points which can be seen in KR even now, and they have had this 'p2w' model since the start.
    One thing to understand is silver doesn't win you anything. Most people even in KR do not have PEN gear, VERY few do. Much less will you even find TET/PEN boss gear on the market anytime in the foreseeable future unless someone extremely high tier quits or their account is hacked. To assume the disposable income crowd will buy all their boss gear and be gods of BDO is asinine at worse and woefully ignorant at best. And beyond that, what people spend irl vs what they can sell the purchased cash item for on the market will not make up for having to grind contribution points, knowledge for energy and most importantly levels. Very few level 60s and even fewer +60 in KR who have had this game much longer than us and I mean come on, they're Korean! The disparity between a level 55 and a level 60 in combat points alone is greater than the perceived differences most of you seem to believe exists in much of the gear. I am not going to expand more on this one point as there are far too many facets to thoroughly cover but I will say that of equal skill level players and passive 'hidden' stats gained from each character level earned you simply do not 'buy' your way to victory in BDO. Not going to happen and I hope many try so the developers get paid and continue releasing these wonderfully Free expansions.
    BDO is pay to be lazy. Pay to advance -up to a point- quicker. Pay for convenience even but it is in absolutely no way pay to win. Silver in BDO in any amount is never going to win your fights, nor even guarantee you upgrade your gear cause RNG is king, and even that does not bother me as I enjoy the game as it is. You may beat the dog out of someone who started the same time as you, has equal skill level but progressed slower in some regards because you 'bought some silver' but you will likely still never catch up to the top tier players and even if you do it will still require a large amount of skill to win your battles against those that know how to play.
    Investing large amounts of contribution and energy in the right places will net you far more silver far quicker than anything you would like to do in the cash shop, and to the Nth degree if they put a cap on the number of items you can sell in any given time. Simply playing the game will advance you in every regard far quicker than attempting to use real world money versus those that put in their hours correctly.
    We as gamers have a responsibility placed on us by the sheer fact that our words have weight concerning a games development. Companies are obviously afraid of the pay to win title and made even worse by social media such as youtube. People that will drive a game straight to its death and lulz whilst moving on to the next because they simply do not care and feel no reason to be invested. The self entitled need to have their teeth knocked out in more ways than one. If my kids ever acted half as spoiled rotten as many of the 25 and under gamers out there they would all be in dentures. Well not quite but they would certainly have their computers removed from their rooms and not be getting their own cars etc. We must stop rewarding this behavior, and none too soon before things become fatally worse. I am not speaking of BDO exclusively.
    There used to be a saying, you get what you pay for. This is still true. If you want Nike or Jordans it will cost more than well I don't know many brands of shoe I wear Wolverine etc. but you can get the idea looking at a fully restored GTO or Chevelle vs a Kia.
    I am not saying I completely agree with everything BDO has done or its prices in the cash shop but I can say with confidence it was caused by the players not the makers of the game. They will sell what we are willing to buy and are not at fault here. The biggest problem here is that BDO in my personal opinion is the best MMO to be released in more years than I can count. Many games out there have done well and avoided the pay to win title, but look at those games vs BDO, currently I see a lot of Kia's and one Chevelle. This game is beautiful and is loaded with content and everyone that has avoided looking for these perceived 'p2w' signs have thousands of hours logged and loads of fun. Even those that are shouting P2W have similar or greater hours. The fallacy of the logic here is beyond astounding.
    I do not wish to see this game ruined by self entitled people causing developers to make rash decisions as has happened so often recently.
    As I said in the beginning this is my one singular attempt at making a rational plea to the gaming community concerned with BDO and the future of Online, feature rich Interactive games. We need to hastily squelch the battle cry of the self entitled audience or suffer the consequences for years to come as it has been for the most recent years with potentially far worse on the way. Knowledge is power, and ignorance is not bliss. It will be my greatest hope that game developers/publishers find their way to this page and know that not everyone is so blind. I sincerely applaud anyone that wishes to take this torch and attempt to make a difference in the right direction. There is even a well known youtuber calling for a boycott of BDO, and he doesn't even play it anymore. I have not the patience nor self restraint for these types of people that want everything for nothing, as the only thing they truly deserve comes in steel toe.
     
  10. Post on Who do we burn? in General

    By Ama, posted
    Witch hunting time
  11. Dear @PM_Jouska, @CM_Aethon, @CM_Praballo, @CM_Tytyes, @GM_Gemu, @GM_Rhotaaz, and @GM_Huego
     
    If you are ever planning on presenting to Pearl Abyss how strongly and passionately EU & NA are against this idea, here is a compiled list of the community's responses (who are against this), organized in one thread for your convenience. 
    I'd like to stress to you, Daum/Kakao, that the point of this thread is to lay down all at once how the community against this feels and how important this is to us.
    This news has spread like fire and has depressed, saddened, and/or angered tons of players who loved this game and supported the creators since the beginning. 
    Additionally, based on this thread, a lot of players believe this won't make a difference and that our opinions & feedback won't matter. Let this prove them wrong!
     
    If I missed anything else that we have done, let me know and I will add it to this, I will continue to update as I find more links.
    ***Please keep this thread constructive, & reply with images/links/videos (and region + server) of any information that you have if you are against this, and I will add to this post. This thread is meant to compile information for Daum/Kakao, please take other feedback towards their decisions back to the Announcement Thread by PM_Jouska
     
    ATTENTION: Place your votes and stances here and tell your friends, guild members, servers, and channels to vote too!
    Links are below:
    Player - Created Forum Poll
    Facebook Strawpoll
    Change.org Petition
    Have your Guild Representative or GM state where your guild stands on this
    Here is the link to the "NO P2W" image
     
    __________________________________________________________________________________________
    Player - Created Forum Poll: 

    Source: Forum PollImage of poll (above), stats shown on first bullet point below; updates follow after that8/5/16 | 1:23 pm EST | 2734 votes against, 358 votes for, 462 votes for & lowering the limit / month8/5/16 | 3:02 pm EST | 2761 votes against, 364 votes for, 471 votes for & lowering the limit / month8/5/16 | 3:52 pm EST | 2772 votes against, 364 votes for, 476 votes for & lowering the limit / month8/5/16 | 4:50 pm EST | 2776 votes against, 365 votes for, 477 votes for & lowering the limit / month8/6/16 | 12:55 pm EST | 2919 votes against, 425 votes for, 512 votes for & lowering the limit / month8/6/16 | 2:34 pm EST | 2929 votes against, 427 votes for, 516 votes for & lowering the limit / month8/6/16 | 6:01 pm EST | 2944 votes against, 433 votes for, 521 votes for & lowering the limit / month8/8/16 | 8:14 am EST | 3042 votes against, 454 votes for, 535 votes for & lowering the limit / month8/8/16 | 2:51 pm EST | 3066 votes against, 456 votes for, 540 votes for & lowering the limit / month8/8/16 | 4:42 pm EST | 3073 votes against, 458 votes for, 541 votes for & lowering the limit / month8/9/16 | 8:32 am EST | 3104 votes against, 472 votes for, 554 votes for & lowering the limit / month8/9/16 | 12:49 pm EST | 3117 votes against, 472 votes for, 556 votes for & lowering the limit / month8/9/16 | 11:13 pm EST | 3132 votes against, 475 votes for, 562 votes for & lowering the limit / month__________________________________________________________________________________________
    Black Desert Facebook Page Poll: 

    Source: StrawpollImage of poll (above), stats shown on first bullet point below; updates follow after that:8/6/16 | 12:52 pm EST | 1724 votes yes, 506 votes no8/6/16 | 2:35 pm EST | 1732 votes yes, 507 votes no8/6/16 | 6:03 pm EST | 1764 votes yes, 512 votes no8/8/16 | 8:15 am EST | 1813 votes yes, 525 votes no8/8/16 | 2:51 pm EST | 1836 votes yes, 528 votes no8/8/16 | 4:42 pm EST | 1837 votes yes, 529 votes no8/9/16 | 8:32 am EST | 1855 votes yes, 534 votes no8/9/16 | 12:50 pm EST | 1862 votes yes, 535 votes no8/9/16 | 11:14 pm EST | 1866 votes yes, 539 votes no__________________________________________________________________________________________
    Change.org Petition:
    Source: Change.org PetitionThread: "Open Letter to Daum Games / Pearl Abyss. SIGN THE CHANGE.ORG PETITION"1,842 supporters on 8/5/16 at 1:25 pm EST1,902 supporters on 8/5/16 at 3:08 pm EST1,922 supporters on 8/5/16 at 3:52 pm EST1,939 supporters on 8/5/16 at 4:49 pm EST2,247 supporters on 8/6/16 at 12:54 pm EST2,268 supporters on 8/6/16 at 2:35 pm EST2,291 supporters on 8/6/16 at 6:03 pm EST3,845 supporters on 8/8/16 at  8:16 am EST4,084 supporters on 8/8/16 at  2:51 pm EST4,117 supporters on 8/8/16 at  4:42 pm EST4,263 supporters on 8/9/16 at  8:32 am EST4,440 supporters on 8/9/16 at 12:50 pm EST4,642 supporters on 8/9/16 at 11:15 pm EST__________________________________________________________________________________________
    In - Game Protests:

    EU Jordine: 3 hour Live stream including protest (at the beginning)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jtC8wIL7_cEU Jordine: Video of YouTube user and streamer xMovingTarget showing in-game protestshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iykJTSCS8JsEU Jordine: Guild logo changeshttps://s32.postimg.org/hc8dwjo4l/guildtop_jordine.jpg → every guild in top 17 ranking changed their logo to "no p2w" which is around 1,438 members who don't want this changehttp://i.imgur.com/vFfp7Ih.pnghttps://i.gyazo.com/1c5a687086f2d89d4947ab8d713cc0a2.pnghttp://origin.webcdn.theblackdesertonline.net/forum/service_live/monthly_08_2016/Screenshot_147.thumb.jpg.4c191bbc6d10bde399f0a8cc78f2cf5d.jpghttp://origin.webcdn.theblackdesertonline.net/forum/service_live/monthly_08_2016/2016-08-04_41104719.JPG.018f9a7c8db35956219f3b0e999e8253.JPGhttp://origin.webcdn.theblackdesertonline.net/forum/service_live/monthly_08_2016/alustinregionowners.thumb.JPG.f16b2ce62d1181acbf25f4ff5000b60d.JPGEU Croxus: One of the top guilds protest with guild logo changehttps://d3higte790sj35.cloudfront.net/images/gd/ke/b2733753e65f434b53e121aa0abf180e.jpeghttp://origin.webcdn.theblackdesertonline.net/forum/service_live/monthly_08_2016/croxus.jpg.de913c5f4dbd8bad671cfc4bbe266ec0.jpgEU Alustin: Guild logo changehttp://i.imgur.com/l8VBARe.jpghttp://origin.webcdn.theblackdesertonline.net/forum/service_live/monthly_08_2016/alustinregionowners.thumb.JPG.f16b2ce62d1181acbf25f4ff5000b60d.JPGhttp://i63.tinypic.com/23r7lls.jpgEU Protest (not sure what server)https://s31.postimg.org/lvxjojr2j/123.jpgNA Uno: One of the top guilds protest with guild logo changehttps://www.reddit.com/r/blackdesertonline/comments/4w5urc/barcode_guild_protests_p2w/NA Uno on a Friday afternoon, take a look at how noticably less populated the game ishttp://origin.webcdn.theblackdesertonline.net/forum/service_live/monthly_08_2016/2016-08-05_170190626.JPG.abcc1f55b8b9915719b14b4f2322e1bb.JPGNA Orwen war declarations against the guild "PayTo_Win" across the whole server (war declarations continued past the screenshots)http://imgur.com/a/ekfAWNA Edan: Guild logo changeshttps://vgy.me/ebZGWi.png__________________________________________________________________________________________
    Player, Guild, and Community responses who are against these possible upcoming [p2w] changes:
    Around 250 pages of feedback and 6,200 replies in this thread and growing consistently on a regular basis):http://forum.blackdesertonline.com/index.php?/topic/106513-updated-in-game-accessibility-to-pearl-shop-items/&page=1Reddit Megathread on Black Desert Online: In-Game accessibility to Pearl Shop Items:https://www.reddit.com/r/blackdesertonline/comments/4wf1ob/megathread_ingame_accessibility_to_pearl_shop/Black Desert Online's Reddit has joined in the protesting and included the "NO P2W" symbol on their banner:http://i1.2pcdn.com/node14/image/article/201608/08/20160808114720a0ehb5dbmbj3t13z.pngIndividual forum user responses:Forum thread: "Response to P2W Implementation" by @General Morshttp://forum.blackdesertonline.com/index.php?/topic/106891-response-to-p2w-implementation/Forum thread: "Analysis of the current game mechanics and how p2w would affect them" by @Karmek http://forum.blackdesertonline.com/index.php?/topic/107082-bdo-analysis-of-the-current-game-mechanics-and-how-p2w-would-affect-them/Individual YouTube video user responses (*** = my opinion of top rated / well said):***BDO Hero explaining he will quit & stop streaming, doesn't want anything to do with this games, and how saddening it is to leave his favorite game:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sxag8F5HxgA***EllsyGaming discussing the possible upcoming changes & expressing her extremely strong viewpoints on how it'll affect the game, company, & players:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6h2e6Lkf4U***Nightingale Gaming discussing these possible upcoming changes:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbxoU3hlpf8***Hakurai (NA Orwen) explaining the in-game protests & possible upcoming changeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRpAAtPGA-Y***Koyo: "My Black Desert Online Experience: Pay 2 Win?"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53GTdFq8I8I***Morrolan TV (NA Uno) expressing thoughtshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlxCTc89j-EThomas Soren explaining a short overview and solutions to this possible update:https://www.reddit.com/r/blackdesertonline/comments/4w8n63/short_overview_and_solutions_to_this_p2w_update/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUrkdDJal7ohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xF_4l5ODCUBladeBoques reacting to possible upcoming p2w changes and why it's a bad decision:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwcMa3DCrGsDocgotGaming discussing pay to win with BDO, comparing to Archeage & Ablion Online, with multiple players in Discordhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEd3pT4FJMQMore vulgar, aggressive, & blatant videos below:Legacy Gaming, one of the largest communities from NA Orwen, has decided to pull support from BDO:http://www.legacybdo.com/Forum thread "Collective attempt at preventing p2w in BDO"http://forum.blackdesertonline.com/index.php?/topic/106626-collective-attempt-at-preventing-p2w-in-bdo/&page=1Includes sources of how other players, communities, and servers are against and trying to prevent this changeGuilds on both EU and NA have decided how they feel about p2w in BDO, a lot of which say their entire guild or community will depart from the game if this is implemented. This includes top guilds and communities. There are players who have had enough and already decided to leave because of how much trust has been brokenCounting # of responses from this thread, the number of guilds / communities against this change follow. This means that either entire guilds or the majority of the players are 100% prepared to walk away if this is implemented. This includes the big guilds / top guilds / communities, and this doesn't even include guilds who aren't on forums or who don't know about this thread. Keep in mind that 1 community could have 2-4 total guilds and the total # doesn't include the sister guilds:EU Total: 53 59NA Total: 23 25 28 33 34Users on forums and guilds in-game changing their profile icons and guild logos to the following image:http://i.imgur.com/SwjFN8W.pngPlan to rally a "black out" from 8/10 - 8/12https://www.reddit.com/r/blackdesertonline/comments/4w5drs/blackdesert_community_organized_blackout_810_812/__________________________________________________________________________________________
    ********** [WIP] Frequent Suggestions (mostly from who are against): 
    Ability to purchase Pearl items with Loyaltieshttp://forum.blackdesertonline.com/index.php?/topic/107846-possible-solution-to-p2w/Ability to purchase Pearl items from an NPC for in-game silverAbility to purchase Pearl items from the Night Vendor for in-game silverAbility to craft Pearl items, which will either be very tedious or very expensiveImplement a new series of quest lines for Pearl itemsNot implementing this change in any wayLower cash shop prices Lower profit when listing a cash shop item on the marketplace (Example: to avoid selling 1 outfit for 30-100m at 5 outfits / week = 150-500m / week)Forum Poll: "How much silver would you buy a $30 costume for?"Below is my opinion in what would be reasonable regarding the market price per costume:30m+ - "Max" - Seems high if p2w-ers take advantage of p2w (150m / week @ 5 costumes / week)20m - "Average" - Could seem high if taking advantage of p2w (100m / week @ 5 costumes / week)15m - "Fair" - If taking advantage of p2w (75m / week @ 5 costumes / week)10m - "Low" - If taking advantage of p2w (50m / week @ 5 costumes / week)Anything below 10m isn't even worth it to buy and sell to a lot of people. The amount should be right in the middle - not too high for easy abuse for wallet warriors, and not too low so that there are 0 costumes on the marketplace (as rare as Kzarka weapons for example)Looking at the above opinions, I personally would be OK with making the outfitter price ranges on the marketplace be 10-20m, as I would continue to play & support the game. Decrease the maximum amount allowed to list costumes / pearl shop items per week / month; ideas below:1 per week = 4 per month3 per month5 per monthGiving us the JP version as suggested by @Surrender and @RubyTuesday (as well as others that I might have missed)Only able to sell parts of a costume. They sell for 5-10m eachLimit of 5 parts /week -> Thats 1~ full Set for around 50m a week --> a lot of players (as well as myself) think this is reasonable if this system is implemented***To get more feedback from as much community as possible (because not everyone is on forums), implement a poll upon launching the game; the poll would either be directly in-game or would direct the player to a website where they can then vote if they want this change.__________________________________________________________________________________________
    Media Reactions:
    Take a look at what these articles have to say (excluding the comments that follow) about these possible changes and how we reacted:[English] Article from PC Gamer regarding the in-game protests:http://www.pcgamer.com/black-desert-online-players-protest-pay-to-win-changes-with-in-game-picket-signs/Article from Kotaku.com regarding the in-game protests:http://kotaku.com/pay-to-win-protests-hit-the-streets-of-black-desert-o-1784949509German articles:http://www.gamestar.de/spiele/black-desert-online/news/black_desert_online,49303,3276823.htmlhttp://mein-mmo.de/black-desert-cashshop-items-auktionshaus/Article from 2p.com by @Kitsu289 regarding the in-game protests and what's next:http://2p.com/44256993_2/Black-Desert-Marketplace-Changes-Cause-Protests-In-Game-Whats-Next-for-Game-by-Kitsu289.htmArticle from techrapor.net by Kyle Downey regarding the in-game protests:http://techraptor.net/content/black-desert-online-players-protestArticles from massivelyop.com by Bree Royce regarding how the community has reacted as well as an analysis of Kakao:http://massivelyop.com/2016/08/05/black-desert-community-uproar-and-analysts-on-kakao/http://massivelyop.com/2016/08/04/black-desert-players-explode-over-plan-to-allow-cash-shop-items-on-the-in-game-market/?lf-content=170254447%3A551245186&hubRefSrc=permalinkArticle from gameranx.com by Nick Monroe regarding the in-game protests, an overview of the cash shop, and how the community reacted:http://gameranx.com/updates/id/68520/article/pay-to-win-protests-brewing-on-black-desert-online/__________________________________________________________________________________________
     
    Thank you for reading, and I wish you best of luck if you decide to present this to Pearl Abyss.
    ~ Jaluvshuskies
  12. Post on karma is real in Off-Topic

    By Sophia1129, posted
    your karma is here developer Pearl Abyss for not servicing us.
    full of p2w concerns. 
    grabbing more money from players wahahaha...
     
  13. Post on southeast asia in Off-Topic

    By raiza2, posted
    is this the global version of black desert online pearl abyss? https://www.facebook.com/bdoglobal/
    it is chinese and base in taiwan. You blocked us from playing an english version of the game in NA/EU.
    are you making this global idtiots??!!! you did something wrong Pearl Abyss!!! we can't read chinese -----gots!!
    Yes Month of August is almost here so there is still NO NEWS ON GLOBAL ENGLISH SERVER OF THE GAME.
    contact@pearlabyss.com we know that you receive millions of mail from unserviced territories. people have right to complain Pearl Abyss!@.
    YOU WHAT YOU DID ON BALTIC COUNTRIES. YOU GIVE THEM TO THE RUSSIAN PUBLISHER BUT THEY ARE ENGLISH PEOPLE WHO CANNOT UNDERSTAND RUSSIAN LANGUAGE!!!
    PLEASE REPLACE YOUR CEO - VP .
     

    YOU'RE MAKING THE GLOBAL VERSION OF THE GAME IN CHINESE LANGUAGE WTF???!!!!
  14. Post on what is this? in Off-Topic

    By raiza2, posted
    http://www.gamejob.co.kr/List_GI/GIB_Read.asp?GI_No=121827
    what is this ? no global english server for us?!
  15. Liebe Community,
    wie auch die letzen Jahre, fahren wir dieses Jahr wieder auf die GamesCom um unter anderem ein Interview mit den Entwicklern Pearl Abyss zu führen! Ab sofort habt ihr daher die Chance eure Fragen los zu werden, die wir Pearl Abyss stellen sollen.
    Dazu haben wir ein Google Forms erstellt! Dort könnt ihr nach Herzenslust eure Fragen stellen! Wer kann darf dieses gern auch in englisch machen!

    Wir hoffen natürlich, dass wir mit möglichst vielen Antworten heim kommen können. 
    Zur Umfrage kommt ihr über das Bild, oder über den Link (Klick mich!)
    Q&A

  16. Hello forum,
    I just wanted to put forth an idea/suggestion that would help both we as players and Daum as a whole. Let me preface this by saying that my career in life bases itself on heavy communication and interaction with different types of IT products and people, from development to QA, but this does not mean that I somehow miraculously understand the situation at Daum nor do I understand what it's like to communicate with PA. 
    Weekly Reports/Status Updates
    Having some form of a weekly report or status update would not only help in easing a lot of the frustration in the unknown but also (in hopes) help alleviate the hostility toward Daum and PA, even if ever so slightly. My recommendation is a frequently updated status page on various content pieces that we do/don't know about. Questions are always flying around and threads are constantly being created asking the same things over and over again. If there were a centralized location for this information, we would hopefully see less hostility on the forums as well as reduced redundancy in questions being asked. Having a page that is updated frequently or maybe even 2-3 times a week, just to keep the "Last Edited On" date fairly current, would keep things fresh, and also have a well known "go to" page for people to reference. 
    It is known and understood by me and others (though some tend to ignore this) that Daum is extremely limited in their ability, especially in communication with PA. Prime example is the Valencia release, as it literally hit with about 10 hours advance notice. Daum is unable to report what they don't know just like every person on the planet. The people at Daum are just as human as those playing the game and would prefer to only comment on things if there is knowledge on the matter. The overall issue though is that the singular replies of "We do not know when this will happen" are generally buried in random threads across the forums with no real way of finding them. Having a status report or outline that's frequently updated would centralize these responses, even if there is nothing known about them. Something as simple as "At this time we have no knowledge on the subject but will continue to update the moment we have something to share" in a centralized location is far more weighted and valuable than a small reply to a random thread that not many will find.
    Further more, items could be added to the list depending on the prevalence of the matter (Such as class adjustments from June 17th). As an example, we have seen multiple threads with complaints toward those changes with very few yielding a Daum reply stating the same thing "We're looking into it and are still waiting for a response from Pearl Abyss regarding the matter" (Not verbatim). Having that report/status page as suggested above would help lower those redundant threads but also remove the burden of, potentially, replying to each thread just so people can see. I highly doubt any one of our CMs/GMs wants to sift through every repeat thread replying the same thing over and over.
     
    As for the weekly report, any communication each week about what Daum has worked on or what responses PA has given, would also be very welcome. Transparency is a double edged sword in most cases, however, but I believe if does more good than harm overall. The report could be released around maintenance day each week to give players a general idea of what is going on with current concerns, issues, or just general content to be expected in the future.
    By no means am I saying that release dates should be given but even the smallest amount of information such as "We've recently been working on Valencia Part 2. There is no release day known yet but this week we worked on testing and localization". I feel that if that level of communication were achieved with the community, we'd see more excitement regarding content rather than general annoyance/hostility.
    This would also give Daum a chance to communicate regularly with the community and build a relationship with the players, hopefully having some fun with us along the way, rather than simply being a punching bag for people's frustrations.
    Conclusion (TL;DR)
    Communication is paramount in any form of work, business, community, etc. Having a centralized status page for issues, content, and concerns, could really help both the BDO community as well as Daum, in the hopes that hostility remains low and general communication satisfaction raises.
    It goes without saying that not everything can be added to such a status page or weekly report but any and everything that could feasibly be spoken of is always welcome.
    There will always be hostilities and angry customers as well as tired CMs/GMs who are working hard to help the BDO community. It just cannot be helped. We can however help lower that recurrent amount of negativity toward both Daum and PA, and have more fun along the way.
     
    Thanks for reading,
    -Guildmarm

     

  17. Anyone care to discuss here as well?
  18. Post on another useless Q&A in Off-Topic

    By raiza2, posted
    http://black-desert.com/news/daum-games-qa/
    what is this? YOU KEEP RELEASING UPDATES BUT YOU ARE NOT PREPARING A GLOBAL SERVICE? IMPROVE NEXT YEAR?! HUH?!  PLEASE, IS THAT A GOVERNMENT ISSUE THAT'S WHY YOU DIDN'T INCLUDED OUR REGION?! MANY OUT THERE ARE SCREWING THEIR IP ADDRESSES TO PLAY THIS GAME! 
     
    EARNED A LOT OF MONEY FROM A B2P MODEL BUT THEY CAN'T BUY LICENSE! WHAT IS GOING ON NOW?! IT IS ALREADY JUNE HUH?!!
    IF THIS GAME HAS NOT COME OUT TO MY COUNTRY,,,
    R
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    THEY KEEP WORKING ON UPDATES BUT THEY DO NOT WORK ON GLOBAL SERVICE AAAAAAAAAAARHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
    "STRESS GAME OF THE YEAR 2016 "
    I KNOW THIS HURTS **** YOU
     
    ~2016
     
     
     
     
    "YOU & YOU'RE TEAM HAS THE BIGGEST MISTAKE IN THE HISTORY OF ONLINE MMOS"
     
     
  19. @CM_Jouska it would be wonderful if you could extend an interest in updating the tooltips for all armor items to include what actual stat gets increased during enchantment (like evasion or DR) similarly to how weapons and offhands have it in their tooltip informing players that a weapon gives accuracy , or that an offhand gives DR or evasion or accuracy etc...
    this would clear up a TON of confusion and frustration on the playerbase in  ALL regions.
    or in all honesty remove DP as a whole as it is not a physical stat and just the visual representation of an items DR and evasion.
  20. Post on Mid year in Off-Topic

    By raiza2, posted
    (excuse daum games europe for this ) for the developers only.
    mid year is almost there and there is still no news.
    so their announcement is truly liar trying to calm raging people.
    i still don' understand, why this popular MMORPG having a limited areas? where millions of people from half of the globe wants to play it but they cannot.
    so if they didn't make it before end of this year 2016, their announcement is officially liar.
    so they must say 2017! blocking more people who wants to play the game in english? what is wrong with those people?
    licensing whatever. they can't but license for our country because they are lazy as **** i'm really sorry.
    i'm not lying to you . but this is the biggest restriction i've ever encountered on internet. i don't wanna use a vpn.
    you earned millions/tons of money why can't you buy license for other territories where thousands of players wants to play your game?
    admit it, you can't earn more money from excluded territories that's why you don't included them.
    i'm really very sorry about this statement, we will wait until december 2016. if not, you don't have to be sorry for us.
    we know that restriction in na/eu service will not be lifted due to license,
    if other publisher handled it we calm. we are from southeast asia. no news about any publisher from here.
    sign the contract to other publishers we will calm.
     

  21. Does Daum actually tell Pearl Abyss what is happening here in NA/EU?
    Why doesn't anyone from PA talk to us?
    Are we actually being told the truth by Daum?
    in other words
    WHERE THE HECK IS PEARL ABYSS?!?!?
  22. Give us regular game update information through 'state of the game' type newsletters.
     
    It's a pretty basic thing to expect game update news and information about what the developers plan to do with the game in the future. Most games do some sort of 'state of the game' content usually weekly. This content is essential to keeping a good relation between publisher/developer and player base and keeps up hype for the game. With the EU and NA servers being young and still being developed I think a lot of people myself included would like to have a state of the game newsletter posted on the website or at least the forums on a regular basis. It would also help in showing us that you listen to our suggestions and that you are working towards implementing them.
  23. "You would get better feedback responses from in-game surveys where most of the people avoid the forums purely because of how toxic the PvE community is." -someone else
     
    I would like to point out that this probably should be one of the HIGHEST priorities for the developers for this game.  A system that solicits input based on actual accounts in-game.  Not out of game where anyone can create an account.  Do it via in-game polls, surveys, and forums.  Let it be read outside the game, maybe even done IF the person logs in just like they do on the game account.  
    This would allow for tracking of trends, shutting up people who are not a part of the game.  Also pinpointing spammers, and having their game account banned.
  24. Whenever I launch the game, it shows the DAUM logo and enters a black screen. The music is playing and I can hear my mouse hovering over the interface. I've let it sit for about an hour and it still doesnt do anything. The interface works and I've blindly went into the game but the screen is still black. I've switched over to my intel HD graphics 4600 and ran black desert on it and it works, however I get blurry lines even at very low settings. I've updated all my device drivers. Can someone help? I'm running windows 10 with intel i7-4720HQ and a gtx 960m with 2gb of Vram. Here's my log files 
    launcher_20160304_105307_9540.log  
    StartupLog_201603045327.log
     
  25. Now I may receive hate from PvE'ers, but I know those who are old school MMORPG players will understand where I am coming from. Black Desert, SHOULD NOT worry about raids or any modern trends most MMORPG's are going through, as much as the public may present it as an issue.
    End game is certainly not raids at all, and this game does it beautifully. Why? Because this is the first game in a long time which doesn't give you the usual "Quest to level-cap, now go raid endlessly, wait for more content" feel. We need to stop thinking that raiding equals end game in a PvE perspective. And if you disagree with me, let's look at history, anyone played Vanilla WoW? Great game, fantastic, and why's that? Because there was a community, it took a long time to level to cap, there was no flying mounts rubbish, you had to travel on foot, much like Black Desert.
    Raids were added, but people at the time did NOT even THINK about raids, we had life skills to train up, do other stuff, gather and explore and that's why raids wasn't such an issue, because we already had playtime and our endgame was what we wanted it to be. The Raids that were released at the time, only 0.1% completed those raids! No one was pressurized to do raids, there was not this narrow mindset we have today, where we level to cap and raid all day. That's not true end game at all!
    But because, they were beginning to have this mindset that we need to add a lot more raids, because we think this is end game, that started to kill the game. You got flying mounts, portals galore and worst of all, raid queuing! This completely  killed the community, the need to go out, meet players, do other things that benefit your character, rather than grind the same raids.
    So why does Black Desert have so much potential? Because it's going back to that old school feel. Where I'm doing want I want to do. That my END GAME is what I want my END GAME to be.
    Just like when you first played Runescape perhaps 10 years ago. Remember that? Grind galore, but you had not set goal which was forced down your throats by the usual trend.
    End game is what you want YOUR end game to be, Runescape didn't have any raids! And it was a great game at its time, certainly for me! Black desert just brings that nostalgic feel to me again. I love it, and I want Daum Games and Pearl Abyss to read this. Keep that old school style. Don't add portals, flying mounts queuing systems, let the players find other players for help, real-time negotiation, all that good stuff.
    The feeling of being placed in the game and there you go, this is your world, make something of it, do anything you want. That's the feeling I want.
    P.S I spent the entire beta trying to build a boat, I didn't complete it, but I know everyday I looked forward to progress even further, I'd wait for the boat to complete and fish. Did this for the entire beta and it was MUCH MORE enjoyable than any other recent MMORPG had to offer.