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@SinfulSaint

Read what Heedun posted. And that is not even the most rewarding technique to accumulate money without lots of effort.

As for the part of dodging Enemy and Addicted: Owell. Can't make people contest us. Hopefully the publisher helps us out at some point :)

It's almost like you can't mentally comprehend why people aren't all at 500+ gearscore ;) 

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It's almost like you can't mentally comprehend why people aren't all at 500+ gearscore ;) 

I do comprehened. Being uneducated would be the most obvious one.

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Not sure why Mediah is more appealing to guilds than Calpheon for example. I mean, its the first time Oldskool got contested in their castle since they have it while its the first time we got no one contesting us in Calpheon. We took Calpheon from Oldskool, yea, but remember that was before they got some more people and now bring even more to a siege. They are certainly stronger than they were when we fought them in Calpheon.

Probably because mr.Joe Bob Average the 460 combined AP/DP and his friends are less likely to want to come to a territory where fighting enemy players each feel like fighting individual raid bosses.

This sounds like you dodging Calpheon. Which means, are we expecting VoS+Wasted next week on Mediah? >:D

This made me giggle. We can only hope.

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That Addicted and Enemy members are getting another 100 million per week (or what ever) doesn't really do that much at the power level you're on, does it? I mean, we get it, you're stronger, it's what you set out to become.

Right now Enemy members are not getting another 100 million per week, rather 250 million at the moment. No big deal, right ?

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Probably because mr.Joe Bob Average the 460 combined AP/DP and his friends are less likely to want to come to a territory where fighting enemy players each feel like fighting individual raid bosses.

There are better and lesser geared people in every guild, yes, even in Enemy! I get your point tho you rather fight vs 85+ people with a little bit less gear (maybe??) instead of 50+ who i quote you "feel like raid bosses". But you never fought us in a siege so its hard for all of us to know how it would turn out? But the real question is, where is Sovereign going next weekend? Because whereever they go, they might mix everything up a bit, just like in mediah this week and playing a deciding factor ;)

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It is funny Enemy begging Tekeii to pay them a visit while their salty member Xeo's called whole Morghulis trash!! except few that Tekeii washed their brains, so now Enemy's quality pvp is to fight trash? just connecting the dots here, i really hope @Tekeii not fall for it and let his ppl to have fun somewhere else cuz blacksails can't be chased at their farms again.

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There are better and lesser geared people in every guild, yes, even in Enemy! I get your point tho you rather fight vs 85+ people with a little bit less gear (maybe??) instead of 50+ who i quote you "feel like raid bosses". But you never fought us in a siege so its hard for all of us to know how it would turn out? But the real question is, where is Sovereign going next weekend? Because whereever they go, they might mix everything up a bit, just like in mediah this week and playing a deciding factor ;)

I am not a member of VoS.

But I'm glad my point came across. Indeed let's get back to Sovereign.

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Right now Enemy members are not getting another 100 million per week, rather 250 million at the moment. No big deal, right ?

Honestly, no. Seeing as we can, as I've explained, just ignore them. No one needs to fight them in Calpheon. Let them sit there. If their goal with the game is to make another 250 million per week that's awesome for them, goal achieved. Meanwhile rest of the guilds can have fun fights without them, which is the point.

I do comprehened. Being uneducated would be the most obvious one.

Oh, enlightened one, tell us more about the secrets of AFK fishing and crates. ^_^ (You still don't get it, it's fine. Privilege does that.)

There are better and lesser geared people in every guild, yes, even in Enemy! I get your point tho you rather fight vs 85+ people with a little bit less gear (maybe??) instead of 50+ who i quote you "feel like raid bosses". But you never fought us in a siege so its hard for all of us to know how it would turn out? But the real question is, where is Sovereign going next weekend? Because whereever they go, they might mix everything up a bit, just like in mediah this week and playing a deciding factor ;)

Even if the above secret poster (:ph34r:) isn't in VoS, I am. And yes. I'd much much rather fight other guilds. Seeing as Sovereign is so far stronger than us in a straight 1vs1 one could deduct that you stomping them is an indication of how we'd match up against you. The whole "You never know!" is a bit of a weak bait, we need more to bite ;) 

And tbh, what are you hoping for? Addicted is in Valencia, Oldskool in Mediah, you've already wrecked Sov and I hope our leaders aren't foolish enough to go Calph. I think your castle will be good for another week. Enjoy :D  

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Even if the above secret poster (:ph34r:) isn't in VoS, I am. And yes. I'd much much rather fight other guilds. Seeing as Sovereign is stronger than us in a straight 1vs1 one could deduct that you stomping them is an indication of how we'd match up against you. The whole "You never know!" is a bit of a weak bait, we need more to bite ;) 

And tbh, what are you hoping for? Addicted is in Valencia, Oldskool in Mediah, you've already wrecked Sov and I hope our leaders aren't foolish enough to go Calph. I think your castle will be good for another week. Enjoy :D  

And what are you doing if those guilds suddenly come to you? You have to face them eventually at some point, its just up to all the guilds on the server if they want to fight them with weeks of high incentive and more chances to upgrade gear or before they get that. The fight will come to you either way so i dont really care what the guilds are doing, i trust my leadership enough to find the right time to drop the castle and go for a fight!
Anyways, have a good evening!

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There are better and lesser geared people in every guild, yes, even in Enemy! I get your point tho you rather fight vs 85+ people with a little bit less gear (maybe??) instead of 50+ who i quote you "feel like raid bosses". But you never fought us in a siege so its hard for all of us to know how it would turn out? But the real question is, where is Sovereign going next weekend? Because whereever they go, they might mix everything up a bit, just like in mediah this week and playing a deciding factor ;)

Enemy has Matys, that fact alone should give hope to everyone

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Don't u guys dare to improve your gear!

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And what are you doing if those guilds suddenly come to you? You have to face them eventually at some point, its just up to all the guilds on the server if they want to fight them with weeks of high incentive and more chances to upgrade gear or before they get that. The fight will come to you either way so i dont really care what the guilds are doing, i trust my leadership enough to find the right time to drop the castle and go for a fight!Anyways, have a good evening!

We will lose, I thought that was obvious? This seems to be the thing you don't get: We're not competing with you, so we don't care. You merged two already very strong guilds, on top recruited hardcore people, to form a elitist guild and now you're like "WHAT IF WE FIGHT YOU?!?!". Uh, yes, you'll obviously win? That's why we're not eager to waste a saturday sieging in Calpheon. Losing is not the thing, but if I am to spend a couple hours of a saturday evening playing a game I'd prefer to have fun against somewhat equal opponents. 

Personally I play games for the competition, which for me means getting challenged. We could spend every day on T2 nodes and beat the absolute living shit out of guilds, because in comparsion we're a lot stronger, but we don't. We could go to Serendia or Balenos each week, facing 30 man guilds with a fraction of even our measly gearscore, but we don't. Because that's not competing, to me.  

You set a goal to create a -----ing power house of a guild, so why would you even want to compete with semi-casual guilds who don't spend a fraction of the time or dedication that you do? Is that fun? Is there something missing in your life that makes unfair competitions appealing to you? It's like doing a bike race, but bringing a motorcycle and then feel proud for winning. No one is denying you would win mate, in fact we're flat out saying it.

So, sure. Drop Calpheon. Come fight us. Next week. Next month. We're here whenever you feel like showing of your motorcycle. And we'll be super impressed before we take our bikes back home :)  

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Western Guard Camp - Sovereign vs Harmony.  Lasted 30 mins.  gf 

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Personally I play games for the competition, which for me means getting challenged.

Which is it? Being competitive or playing for fun? Because you send mixed signals. :) There's nothing wrong with the latter, but being competitive requires a competitive attitude. If you don't fight the top guilds by default and go for the fun fight you don't have a competitive mindset. Nevertheless it is absolutely viable to still pursue it.

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Which is it? Being competitive or playing for fun? Because you send mixed signals. :) There's nothing wrong with the latter, but being competitive requires a competitive attitude. If you don't fight the top guilds by default and go for the fun fight you don't have a competitive mindset. Nevertheless it is absolutely viable to still persuade it.

That's like saying, if you don't play football in the Champions League, you don't have a competitive mindset

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We will lose, I thought that was obvious? This seems to be the thing you don't get: We're not competing with you, so we don't care. You merged two already very strong guilds, on top recruited hardcore people, to form a elitist guild and now you're like "WHAT IF WE FIGHT YOU?!?!". Uh, yes, you'll obviously win? That's why we're not eager to waste a saturday sieging in Calpheon. 

First i wont tell you to come calpheon.

I dont undertsand why you think we are an undefeatable guild. You really need to stop thinking that way. We re only a 60 men guild. You were able to take down sovereign this week, Why couldnt you take us down if we come ? 

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Western Guard Camp - Sovereign vs Harmony.  Lasted 30 mins.  gf 

no Offtopic please :P

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Western Guard Camp - Sovereign vs Harmony.  Lasted 30 mins.  gf 

Glad to see you can beat them without our help ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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That's like saying, if you don't play football in the Champions League, you don't have a competitive mindset

I am pretty sure 99% of the professional footballer want to compete in the Champions League. Your argument is pretty weak, imo.

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no Offtopic please :P

sorry :D 

Glad to see you can beat them without our help ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

no body blocks in sight

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Deam, i got a lot to catch up on. Can't wait for work tomorrow!

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I am pretty sure 99% of the professional footballer want to compete in the Champions League. Your argument is pretty weak, imo.

Not really but close enough, but you don't need to be in the top of the top to be competetive. Cause what you're basically saying is that no other guilds can be competetive cause they aint fighting you.

There is multiple tiers of competetiveness, and it doesnt need to involve fighting just the very top.

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Ancado (T3)

FUzion vs SaltanCo

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Ancado (T3)

FUzion vs SaltanCo

12 v 7 Damn Zerghulis/Fuzion!

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I am pretty sure 99% of the professional footballers wants to compete in the champions league one day. Your argument is pretty weak, imo.

You have no grasp what so ever about sports, do you? And did you notice how you felt a need to sneak in "professional", where as in this is a game and if you're not a streamer this is something you do for fun, not for a living.

Having fun isn't the opposite of being competitive, go look it up, but it does say a lot about your approach to the game if you think they are. :)  

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