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fishing BDO - Ocean Fishing Guide


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BDO - Ocean Fishing Guide

Updates

  • 10 October 2018 - Following the extensive changes to Fishing included in the 10 October 2018 Patch Notes, THIS INFORMATION IS NOW DEPRECATED AND IS CHANGED IN THE GAME. Refer to this for historical purposes only.
  • 10 January 2018 - Trout fish species finally added back into fish tables after being removed and not replaced back with the big Fishing change in June 2016. Notes state coast of Balenos. After testing it seems any of the coastal parts of Velia bay not including the green only fish marker tables. Added to confirmed tables.
  • 10 January 2018 - The addition of the Gold Key item in high drop rate was reversed after some weeks. Now it has been either removed totally or remains but only as a very low drop rate. Therefore it is hard to confirm personally in all previous waters (see above 06 December 2017 note) but will be added when confirmed.
  • 10 January 2018 - It is reported from reliable sources that it is possible to fish a Bronze Key from at least two Kamasylvia fish tables though I have not fished them personally to confirm so will leave as a note for now. The waters reported were Lake Flonder and Okiara River.
  • 14 March 2018 - Tuna species has been removed from the Balenos coastline and replaced with Nibbler in the 14 March 2018 Patch Notes, both yellow quality species. Yet to confirm exactly which waters but assume Balenos Islands, Velia Hotspot, the green tables with a few yellow species off the coast including Velia wharf.
  • 13 April 2018 - The Laila's Petal blue quality item has been added as a low drop rate chance to all regions, both freshwater and sal-----er. The item is used for the new Fairy pet.

Note: Early updates are now noted at the end of the list under Previous Updates.

I have now posted a freshwater version of the list. And a list specific to the Margoria expansion sea areas.

BDO - Freshwater Fish Species List

BDO - Margoria Fish Species List

BDO - Kamasylvia - Freshwater Fishing Guide

Introduction

This list covers the ‘new fishing’ introduced by Kakao Games Europe to the EU/NA region with the 17 June 2016 Patch Notes which brought with it random spawns on the ocean, revamped harpoon fishing and, importantly for this list, a readjustment of fish species in fish tables across the seas. It also includes the Valencia Part 1 & 2 sea areas.

This means that players will be able to locate specific fish species for quests etc., within individual seas (and their associated origin nodes) and other seawater bodies.

Details

Given that the new fishing system has not been in game for long and all of the data has come from manually exploring all the different seas etc., it should be considered as incomplete and subject to change. It should however give a reasonably reliable guide to finding the identified fish species.

Since the introduction of the new fishing there have already been some changes (not all included in patch notes) notably the apparent removal of trash from deeper sea areas noted in the 29th June 2016 Patch Notes.. It is still possible to catch trash if near land such as islands or shallower areas near coasts; even very rarely in seemingly deep waters. But generally it shouldn’t be caught now in the deep sea areas.

General notes

The general breakdown of fish species by quality in a typical open seawater fish table is;

  • 1 x gold quality fish species (from 27 September 2017 Patch Notes, Tuna & Grunt added to fish tables of some areas around Velia making 2 yellow species)
  • 2 x blue quality fish species
  • Rarely to occasionally green quality species
  • Occasionally white quality fish species
  • Rare chance (similar to other places) for Ancient Crystal Relic Shards & Silver Keys
  • Coelacanth can be caught in all waters, as a rare drop chance.

Bear in mind that, as with much of the game, there are exceptions to every rule and some locations may have more blue species for example, or in one instance two gold species (new Velia beach hot spot).

As further species are confirmed in fish tables they will be updated to this list.

  • Each sea or water body was fished for a sample catch of at least 50 fish/ items (up to around 300). This provided sufficient data to identify with some certainty the main gold and blue fish species in each table, plus a reasonably comprehensive idea of the green and white species.

  • The list doesn’t include the new random spawn fish species (some are new, some include the existing fish).

  • Each sea area has an associated origin node (or more than one) which can be identified via the fishes tooltip under Origin, such as in this example. These are noted below 
    with the associated sea area.

For details of the individual fish species you can refer to the BDDatabase.net Fish Guide which has a handy reference for all fish species, including rarity, knowledge and the actual fish if you click the Related item: link.

The list being based on the Knowledge list moves broadly from West > East of the map. The additional locations are in no particular order beyond general headings.

Finally, several seas and water bodies, notably the Velia bay area (Velia, Balenos Islands), include more than one fish table. These are included and locations provided to try and give some better idea of where they are within the zone. Where the fish table is confined to a very small spot, distance coordinates are provided. More may well be present but not yet identified.

Identifying the locations of listed seas;

If you have explored the ocean you may have the seas and associated island nodes included under the in-game Knowledge > Ocean section. If not, it is possible to view all such locations from the BDDatabase.net Knowledge section. This also includes a list of islands in each sea (via the drop down menus) which should give the player a good indication of their locations in the ocean.

More conveniently, all this fish table data is now incorporated into the Sea Regions overlay on the (very impressive) Fammes BDO Map site here.

As you sail around the ocean each sea region is indicated on the minimap and on the UI as you move across a sea boundary.


Ocean Fish Species List 

Peyon Sea
Origin node: Rameda Island

Nibbler
Atka Mackerel
Cero
Octopus
Bigeye
Flying Fish
Pintado
Gurnard
Mackerel Pike
Mullet
Saurel

Epheria Sea
Origin node: Randis Island

Porgy 
John Dory 
Maomao 
Octopus
Flying Fish 
Bigeye 
Pintado
Mackerel PIke
Mullet 
Saurel 
Scorpion Fish

Ahrmo Sea
Origin node: Daton Island

Sea Bass
Octopus
Porcupine Fish
Swellfish
Bigeye
Flying Fish
Pintado
Ray
Mackerel Pike
Mullet
Saurel

Banto Sea
Origin node: Padix Island

Tuna
Herring 
Octopus 
Sailfish 
Bigeye 
Cuttlefish 
Pintado 
Flying Fish 
Mackerel Pike 
Mullet 
Saurel

Note: 
Since the 27 September 2017 Patch Notes change, the Smokey Chromis is swapped with Tuna as the yellow species (not actually noted in notes). This confused sea area appears to have been incorporated into Olvia Sea proper, with the same Olvia Sea fish table(revised with Smokey Chromis). Therefore previous split of A. & B. amended to single fish table for this sea to reflect new Olvia Sea boundaries. Previously the boundaries of this sea and fish tables is rather confused in this E area with Olvia Sea and fish tables. This was also the case when harpoon fishing.

Olvia Sea
Origin node: Olvia Coast

Smokey Chromis
Checkerboard Wrasse 
Tapertail Anchovy 
Bluefish 
Clownfish 
Rockfish 
Skipjack 
Dolphinfish 
Filefish 
Scorpion Fish 
Striped Catfish 
Surfperch

Note: 
Since the 27 September 2017 Patch Notes change, the Tuna is swapped with Smokey Chromis as the yellow species (not actually noted in notes). The area to the NW was rather mixed up with the Bantos Sea zone but has been enlarged now to remove this issue. Previously the boundaries of this sea and fish tables is rather confused in this E area with Olvia Sea and fish tables. This was also the case when harpoon fishing.

Balenos Islands 
Origin node: Luivano Island

A. The main sea channel in Velia bay and extends up to and over into Olvia coast and wharf area and Coastal Cave coast. Also other areas between others mentioned.

Grunt
Nibbler
Beltfish
Mackerel
Trout
Mudskipper
Rock Hind
Sandeel
Sandfish

Note: 
Yellow species added in 27 Sep 2017 Patch Notes. Trout species added in 20 December 2018 Patch Notes. Tuna removed and replaced with Nibbler in 14 March 2018 Patch Notes.

B. Location: Mid channel around the ‘Flounder’ marker in Velia bay, mid channel SW of NPC otter Erio and N out of Velia waters.

Flounder 
Gunnel 
Sandeel 
Silver-Stripe Round Herring 
Starfish 
Tongue Sole

Note: 
Green quality limit to fish table. High proportion of trash items.

C. Located in waters on the coast of, and around the Amberjack marker near Coastal Cave extending out to the mian channel.

.Location coordinates: 
SE from Flounder marker 100 
Coastal Cave 230 
Cron Castle 190 
Velia 420

Amberjack 
Sardine 
Butterflyfish 
Fourfinger Threadfin 
Jellyfish 
Sandeel 
Fish Bones 
Seaweed

Note: 
Green quality limited fish table. Proportionally more trash but still the same chance of relic shards.

D. Location: Crab marker E of Coastal Cliff node. Area extends out towards small rocky islet NE of Coastal Cliff node.

Croaker
Dollarfish
Horn Fish
Blackfin Sweeper
Crab
Greenling
Sandeel
Shellfish
 

E. Remainder of the sea area extending further N outside of Velia bay.

Moray
Pomfret
Siganid
Bluefish
Clownfish
Skipjack
Dolphinfish
Filefish
Sandeel
Striped Catfish
Surfperch

Nox Sea 
Origin Node: Invernen Island

Grunt 
Angler 
Yellow Swordfish 
Bluefish 
Clownfish
Skipjack
Dolphinfish
Filefish 
Saurel 
Striped Catfish 
Surfperch

Cron Islands 
Origin Node: Baremi Islands

Nibbler
Maomao
Swellfish
Bluefish
Clownfish
Skipjack
Dolphinfish
Filefish
Starfish
Striped Catfish
Surfperch

Sausan Islands 
Origin node: Pilava Island

Grunt 
Grouper 
Swellfish 
Blue Tang 
Rockfish 
Flatfish 
Round Herring 
Sandeel 
Starfish 
Whiting

Arsha Sea
Origin node: Racid Island

Grunt 
Golden Thread 
Swordfish 
Bluefish 
Clownfish 
Skipjack 
Dolphinfish 
Filefish 
Flatfish 
Striped Catfish 
Surfperch

Eltro Sea 
Origin node: Shasha Island

Grunt 
Marlin 
Octopus 
Clownfish 
Skipjack 
Surfperch 
Butterflyfish 
Dolphinfish 
Filefish 
Squid
Striped Catfish

Al Halam Sea 
Origin node: Orisha Island

Tilefish 
Black Marlin 
John Dory 
Maomao 
Marlin 
Sea Eel 
Cuttlefish 
Flounder 
Horn Fish 
Ray 
Skipjack 
Gurnard 
Rock Hind 
Rosefish 
Sandeel 
Seahorse

Note: 
The Al Halam Sea has an unusually large number of species included in the fish table. This means it is harder to catch any particular one including the single gold species, Tilefish. This tends to make it sub-optimal in terms of silver value.

It is exceptional in having no less than five blue quality and four green quality species included in the table.

Al Halam Sea covers the entire new Valencia areas ocean including the strait up to Ancado Inner Harbor (which also includes the same fish table).

Areas not included in Knowledge > Oceans

Mediah Sea
Origin node: Altinova

Moray
Grouper
Sea Eel
Blue Tang
Rockfish
Skipjack
Flatfish
Round Herring
Sandeel
Whiting
 
Note:
Located to the W of Sausan Islands. E of Al Halam Sea forming the mouth of the straits down to Altinova, with the Altinova Sea to the S. This fish table extends a bit into Altinova Sea at the S boundary with Altinova Sea. Appears the boundary has been moved further S at some point.
 

Altinova Sea
Origin node: Altinova

Tilefish 
Porcupine Fish 
Sea Eel 
Blue Tang 
Clownfish 
Rockfish 
Flatfish 
Round Herring 
Sandeel 
Whiting

Note: 
Located between Altinova harbour area and the Mediah Sea to the N . Extending S of Altinova to the Junaid River. Mediah Sea fish table extends a bit into this sea at the N part at the boundary. Appears the boundary has been shifted further S at some point.

Zenato Sea
Origin node: Kuit Island

Tuna
Black Marlin 
Cero 
Octopus 
Bigeye 
Flying Fish 
Dolphinfish 
Fourfinger Threadfin 
Mackerel Pike 
Mullet 
Saurel

Note: 
Located in the NW area, N around Kuit Island (also through the middle strait).

Main Harbour Areas (marked as separate waters)

Velia 
Origin Node: Velia

A. Velia Beach hotspot. Removed in the 26 April 2017 Patch Notes. Now only possible to fish this small remaining hotspot right on the boundary of Velia and Coastal Cliff. The hotspot now extends for a small area over the boundary in the Coastal Cliff beach. The extent of this hotspot is indicated on this image from those patch notes. Map renamed to Velia Beach in the 06 December 2017 Patch Notes, just for this location of the beach to the W of Velia wharf. Still extends partly into Coastal Cliff zone to W.

Grunt
Moray
Nibbler
Sea Eel
Herring
Beltfish
Mackerel
Trout
Mudskipper
Rock Hind
Sandeel
Sandfish
Fish Bones
 
Note: 
[Old information] The Velia beach hot spot effectively replaces the old gold hot spot just off the coast except for the inclusion of occasional trash items now. 
Currently this is the only open water area with two gold quality fish in the table. 
It appears deliberately placed to appease those used to the old AFK gold hot spot.
The spot is in the Velia safe zone, is fished from the beach so no boat required and is closer to the storage and trader. it loses out on a small distance bonus from the old spot.
 

B. Velia beach (except tiny spot on Coastal Cliff boundary noted above in A.), wharf and Velia open water.

Grunt
Nibbler
Golden-Thread
Beltfish 
Mackerel
Trout
Mudskipper 
Rock Hind 
Sandeel 
Sandfish 
Fish Bones 
Seaweed

Note: 
Yellow species added in 27 Sep 2017 Patch Notes.

Epheria Port 
Origin node: Epheria Port

Octopus 
Bigeye 
Flying Fish 
Pintado 
Mackerel Pike 
Mullet 
Sandeel 
Saurel

Note: 
Appears to be a blue quality limited fish table.

Iliya Island 
Origin node: Iliya Island

Grunt 
Golden Thread 
Swordfish 
Bluefish 
Clownfish 
Dolphinfish 
Filefish 
Flatfish 
Striped Catfish 
Surfperch

Note: 
Appears to be the same fish table as the surrounding Arusha Sea.

Altinova 
Origin node: Altinova

Tilefish 
Porcupine Fish 
Sea Eel 
Blue Tang 
Clownfish 
Rockfish 
Flatfish 
Round Herring 
Sandeel 
Whiting

Note: 
This includes the old hot spot and is a safe zone.

Ancado Inner Harbor 
Origin node: Ancado Inner Harbor

Tilefish 
Black Marlin 
John Dory 
Maomao 
Marlin 
Sea Eel 
Cuttlefish 
Flounder 
Horn Fish 
Ray 
Skipjack 
Gurnard 
Rock Hind 
Rosefish 
Sandeel 
Seahorse

Note: 
Same fish table as the Al Halam Sea.

Valencia Sea
Origin node: Arehaza Town

Tilefish 
Black Marlin 
John Dory 
Maomao 
Marlin 
Sea Eel 
Cuttlefish 
Flounder 
Horn Fish 
Ray 
Skipjack 
Gurnard 
Rock Hind 
Rosefish 
Sandeel 
Seahorse

Note: 
The same fish table as the Al Halam Sea, meaning the entirety of the current Valencia ocean content has the exact same fish table.

Future Waters

Magoria Sea (Ocean content current in Korean version, due in update Q4 2016 for EU/NA)

Deep Sea (Unknown. Covers the areas outside the current invisible barriers to the east and west)

Previous Updates

  • 19 July 2016 - Added missing notes for Seas of Mediah.
  • 21 July 2016 - Added some more green/ white species to Seas of Banto.
  • 29 July 2016 - Confirmed white quality species Mackerel Pike in Zenato Sea Area.
  • 07 August 2016 - Added Octopus and Flying Fish to Seas of Ahrmo.
  • 09 August 2016 - Added Mackerel Pike to Seas of Epheria.
  • 10 August 2016 - Added Octopus to Seas of Peyron.
  • 12 August 2016 - Added Pintado to Seas of Peyron.
  • 15 August 2016 - Added Filefish and Striped Catfish to Cron Islands. Added Dolphinfish to Cron Islands.
  • 16 August 2016 - Added note on Coelacanth being a rare drop chance in all waters.
  • 22 August 2016 - Added Octopus to Seas of Epheria.
  • 01 September 2016 - Added Valencia Sea Area included with the Valencia Part 2 content. Same fish table as Al Halam Sea.
  • 01 September 2016 - Updated note for Magoria Sea, Ocean content due in Q4 2016 to EU/ NA region.
  • 01 September 2016 - Added note on the Deep Sea. Unknown content. Only known from behind some invisible barriers.
  • 18 October 2016 - Changed Swordfish to Yellow Swordfish in Seas of Nox to reflect this change in 12 October 2016 Patch Notes.
  • 18 October 2016 - Added Skipjack to Seas of Nox (Skipjack tend to have a low drop rate in a number of sea areas and easily missed).
  • 15 November 2016 - Added further location details for Balenos Islands Area B.
  • 18 November 2016 - Added new fish table for Balenos Islands C. (Crab marker) consisting Croaker, Dollarfish, Hornfish, Blackfin Sweeper, Crab, Greenling, Sandeel and Shellfish.
  • 18 November 2016 - Added Skipjack and Dolphinfish to Balenos Islands D.
  • 19 November 2016 - Added new fish area and table as Balenos Islands A. including Beltfish, Mackerel, Mudskipper, Rock Hind, Sandeel and Sandfish. Adjusted other areas to accommodate this addition.
  • 17 January 2017 - Added link to freshwater fish list now available.
  • 10 April 2017 - Revised sea area names in line with changes in the last update (not noted in patch notes).
  • 26 April 2017 - Updated list to reflect the removal of move of the Velia beach hotspot, under Velia.
  • 27 September 2017 - Updated some waters around Velia after yellow/ blue species (including Tuna/ Grunt) added to previously green only fish tables as noted in 27 Sep 2017 Patch NotesTuna also added to Velia hotspot (Grunt already existed).
  • 04 October 2017 - Added link to BDO - Kamasylvia - Freshwater Fishing Guide which includes details of new fish species, fish tables and general notes.
  • 11 October 2017 - Revised Olvia Sea & Banto Sea  zones and fish tables to reflect the swap from Tuna < > Smokey Chromis as yellow species. Part of 27 September 2017 changes. Removed the two A. & B. split of Banto Sea to reflect this change not noted in the path notes.
  • 11 October 2017 - Added Striped Catfish to Eltro Sea  fish table.
  • 11 November 2017 - Added Golden-Thread to Velia beach/wharf. Appears very low drop rate. Probably added along with the low drop chance Tuna/Grunt added in the 27 September 2017 changes. Probably in other fish tables these two were added.
  • 12 November 2017 - Updated Tuna replacing Smokey Chromis in Zenato Sea. Part of 27 September 2017 changes.
  • 06 December 2017 - The Gold Key item has been added to some fish tables in the 29 Nov 2017 Patch Notes (no note for this) notably in Margoria ocean areas, Velia Hotspot, Grana city & Lake Flonder in Kamasylvia. it is not known if this is a permanent change as it is impacting relic drop rate in these areas. When this is confirmed then the guide will be updated.
  • 06 December 2017 - Velia hotspot part of Velia beach has now been named separately from Velia as Velia Beach in the 06 December 2017 Patch Notes, which helps with locating it. Still extends over to Coastal Cliff zone a bit to the W.

Acknowledgements:

MaoMaoPrince for great fishing related Twitch streams, informative Youtube videos and hosting a lively Discord fishing community.

Fam for the invaluable map and various overlays including Sea regions on his map site Famme's BDO map
BDDatabase.net for an invaluable resource for Black Desert Online.

Fellow members of the MaoMaoPrince Discord fishing community for all the help, advice and support especially sibyyl and Desado. Also Shamend for help cross referencing the harpoon fishing details.

The other various forums such as BDFisher and Reddit BDO for the efforts of members in sharing fishing information, often providing data and personal experiences, not otherwise available.

Pearl Abyss for developing Black Desert Online and Kakao Games Europe B.V. for making a great MMO available for us to experience.

Corrections & Suggestions

If you find additional species and/ or find any errors in the above please post to this forum thread and I will aim to check and amend them. Please provide a screenshot if possible which will help in this.


I hope this proves useful to my fellow fishers in BDO.

Tight Lines!

Moonraker - EU

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This is fantastic work: I saw it on reddit a few hours ago and went and finished Hario's fishing quest based upon this: big thanks for collecting the info and posting it!

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Congrats Moonraker for your comprehensive fish guide. I too was working on a fish guide and I can back up your observations. From counting fish in each sea I can add the following:

Each sea I've surveyed has a 'common' group of 3-4 fish which, taken together, make up 2/3 to 3/4 of all fish caught in that sea. Other fish are noticeably rarer, you will generally catch only 1 or two of each per trip. My fish were caught by a Professional fisher on a Calpheon rod using 0 or 1 energy. These common fish are:

Peyon Sea   Atka Mackerel, Gurnard, Nibbler, Cero.

Epheria Sea   Mackerel Pike, Porgy, Maomao, John Dory.

Ahrmo Sea   Ray, Swellfish, Sea Bass, Porcupine Fish

Banto Sea   Sailfish, Herring, Smokey Chromis. (Caught from four locations around Padix Island).

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This is fantastic work: I saw it on reddit a few hours ago and went and finished Hario's fishing quest based upon this: big thanks for collecting the info and posting it!

Thanks and glad it was of use for you.

One of the aims was to provide a comprehensive guide to finding specific fish species for the fishing quests etc. And to make some judgements about where to fish in open water.

Congrats Moonraker for your comprehensive fish guide. I too was working on a fish guide and I can back up your observations. From counting fish in each sea I can add the following:

Each sea I've surveyed has a 'common' group of 3-4 fish which, taken together, make up 2/3 to 3/4 of all fish caught in that sea. Other fish are noticeably rarer, you will generally catch only 1 or two of each per trip. My fish were caught by a Professional fisher on a Calpheon rod using 0 or 1 energy. These common fish are:

Peyon Sea   Atka Mackerel, Gurnard, Nibbler, Cero.

Epheria Sea   Mackerel Pike, Porgy, Maomao, John Dory.

Ahrmo Sea   Ray, Swellfish, Sea Bass, Porcupine Fish

Banto Sea   Sailfish, Herring, Smokey Chromis. (Caught from four locations around Padix Island).

Thanks Traxxle.

Interesting observation. Yes, I would say that generally the quality breakdown is fairly consistent, certainly for the higher quality fish. I tend to find that the white quality varies more due mainly to their just being more of them as potential catch.

Seas of Banto is a weird one and why I included two separate fish tables, one of which is the same or similar to the Seas of Olvia one. Once you move westward it becomes more consistent.

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The Seas of Mediah appears to have been left off this guide, though Moonraker mentions it in passing. From my own catch:

Moray

Sea Eel

Grouper

Round Herring

Whiting

Sandeel

Rockfish

Blue Tang

Flatfish

Skipjack

Affiliated Node is Altinova (wrongly marked on the mini-map as Mediah Shore). Bounded by Sausan sea, Al Halam sea and Altinova sea.

Thanks in particular for listing the outlying seas. I would never have found Zenato sea on my own.

 

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The Seas of Mediah appears to have been left off this guide, though Moonraker mentions it in passing. From my own catch:

Moray

Sea Eel

Grouper

Round Herring

Whiting

Sandeel

Rockfish

Blue Tang

Flatfish

Skipjack

Affiliated Node is Altinova (wrongly marked on the mini-map as Mediah Shore). Bounded by Sausan sea, Al Halam sea and Altinova sea.

Thanks in particular for listing the outlying seas. I would never have found Zenato sea on my own.

 

Thanks for the catch @Traxxie. I have added my original notes and catch sample for the area in to the list which concur with your species list.

As a general note, the minimap shows the Affiliated Node for each sea/ area as on land. However this doesn't reflect always the Origin node for the fish caught, being usually one of the islands or town/ city in that area. You have to confirm the origin on the fish tooltip.

It is interesting how some areas are not listed in the Knowledge > Ocean section including one such as Seas of Mediah and Zenato Sea Area which is a large area in the NW. There is no reall other reference for 'Zenato' either so perhaps part of the upcoming Ocean content out in KR soon.

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Nice Guide,but since this patch,i don't know where to find 2 fish for the triple rod quest fish for villagers,it ask grunt tuna black porgy and another one,spotted sea bass something,and those last 2 i don't know where to find,anyone can help?

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Black Porgy and Spotted Sea Bass are I believe hot-spot only fish. I've caught both in Olvia Sea hot spots.

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Great guide. :) Thanks for helping me on the discord chat as well. 

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Great guide. :) Thanks for helping me on the discord chat as well. 

Glad it helps you. And always happy to help as I can.

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Got Spotted Sea Bass in olvia hotspot,i think hotspots have only 1 gold,so can't be olvia,unless there can be diffferent hotspots inside each sea?

Still miss black porgy :(

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Got Spotted Sea Bass in olvia hotspot,i think hotspots have only 1 gold,so can't be olvia,unless there can be diffferent hotspots inside each sea?

Still miss black porgy :(

The list doesn't cover the spawn fish species only the open water ones. Some can be caught in both, Tuna and Grunt but not the new fish species added on 17 June 2016 like Spotted Sea Bass (different from the existing Sea Bass species)

The species of spawns tends to be localised into fairly large areas. For example you can find Spotted Sea Bass spawns from the SE of Iliya Island in the Seas of Arusha right across to the Seas of Olvia and Seas of Nox; perhaps further still but this is the main area for that.

Black Porgy are also from this wider area. Spawn species probably don;t share the exact same spot as others but can be very close, certainly in view of an existing spawn. Try checking the above area moving through the middle of the islands and check all spawns.

The most reliable spot for Black Porgy is direct S of Iliya harbour but it seems the hardest to find out of them all.

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You sure about the skipjack in those places? I have caught 160 fish but no skipjacks. Is there a place with a higher percentage for the skipjacks?

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You sure about the skipjack in those places? I have caught 160 fish but no skipjacks. Is there a place with a higher percentage for the skipjacks?

Yes, the Skipjack records are correct.

You don't mention in which sea area you were fishing but to date Skipjack appears to be  one more of the more elusive species when fishing. This is probably because of two reasons;

  1. Green quality fish generally are rarer now in the open water fish tables than previously and being a green quality species this impacts the Skipjack chances. There are proportionally more blue quality species now and usually more white quality species in the fish tables which reduces the chances for the green ones.
  2. Fish species tend not to be spread across all seas so location is important. The list does identify those and there may be others for a rarer fish catch such as the Skipjack but it means if those fish tables only have a lower percentage of a species then it makes it harder to catch reliably.

The list intentionally omits the catch breakdown as the test sample sizes were not large enough to give a proper idea of percentages, however to give an example of the sea which offers the best fishing chance probably currently for Skipjack would be the Seas of Banto (see the two variants for this sea above)


21 July 2016
Seas of Banto - East
Affil. Node: Rameda Island
Origin: Padix Island
Waters: Seas of Banto
Location: SE of Arita Island, NW Narvo Island
Catch:
Tuna 15
Checkerboard Wrasse 35
Tapertail Anchovy 18
Bluefish 05
Clownfish 03
Rockfish 08
Skipjack 04
Dolphinfish 05
Filefish 06
Scorpion Fish 05
Striped Catfish 05
Surfperch 02
Silver Key 05


Total = 116

This gives some idea of what I allude to. Of the 116 fish caught, four were Skipjack. Previously I had fished this area in a few places and not even caught any which is quite possible with smaller catches.

From my notes I often caught only one Skipjack in the whole catch or none from many of the sea regions.

I caught four in the Al Halam Sea covering the Valencia area however that sea has a really larger fish table consisting of more than double most other areas which means catching any specific species that much harder.

The other option for some fish like the Skipjack is to catch them via harpoon fishing as they are more commonly caught that way. Check out Shamend's very useful Harpoon Fishing Test document which indicates where they can be harpooned and also some catch numbers to narrow it down. This suggests that the Balenos Islands would be a good area but ensure you are in deep waters for harpoon fishing to work.

If you have to get Skipjack that is probably the best bet. If it is for a fishing quest I think harpooning works as a catch but not certain so worth checking first.

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Oh cool! Now I can link the forum thread directly instead of hunting down the reddit thread every time. :D 

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Moonraker's guide raises an issue - what else needs to be surveyed and studied? We could use similar guides for Island fishing, Coast fishing and Inland fishing. Hot- spots could be categorised by location, fish type and skill level (thus needing input from fishers of different levels). Effects of different rod and float types on catch (I've just completed a guide for the Calpheon rod). Effects of node level and luck on catch. Capture counts needed for fishing titles and increased fish sizes. There's a lot of fertile ground for researchers.

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Yes, the Skipjack records are correct.

You don't mention in which sea area you were fishing but to date Skipjack appears to be  one more of the more elusive species when fishing. This is probably because of two reasons;

  1. Green quality fish generally are rarer now in the open water fish tables than previously and being a green quality species this impacts the Skipjack chances. There are proportionally more blue quality species now and usually more white quality species in the fish tables which reduces the chances for the green ones.
  2. Fish species tend not to be spread across all seas so location is important. The list does identify those and there may be others for a rarer fish catch such as the Skipjack but it means if those fish tables only have a lower percentage of a species then it makes it harder to catch reliably.

The list intentionally omits the catch breakdown as the test sample sizes were not large enough to give a proper idea of percentages, however to give an example of the sea which offers the best fishing chance probably currently for Skipjack would be the Seas of Banto (see the two variants for this sea above)

This gives some idea of what I allude to. Of the 116 fish caught, four were Skipjack. Previously I had fished this area in a few places and not even caught any which is quite possible with smaller catches.

From my notes I often caught only one Skipjack in the whole catch or none from many of the sea regions.

I caught four in the Al Halam Sea covering the Valencia area however that sea has a really larger fish table consisting of more than double most other areas which means catching any specific species that much harder.

The other option for some fish like the Skipjack is to catch them via harpoon fishing as they are more commonly caught that way. Check out Shamend's very useful Harpoon Fishing Test document which indicates where they can be harpooned and also some catch numbers to narrow it down. This suggests that the Balenos Islands would be a good area but ensure you are in deep waters for harpoon fishing to work.

If you have to get Skipjack that is probably the best bet. If it is for a fishing quest I think harpooning works as a catch but not certain so worth checking first.

I tried going to those directions, and I keep getting the ones from this list:

Smokey Chromis 
Herring 
Octopus 
Sailfish 
Bigeye 
Cuttlefish 
Pintado 
Flying Fish 
Mackerel Pike 
Mullet 
Saurel

Would you be able to provide a screenshot of this spot? Here is the spots I've tried...

LookingForSkipJack_zpsuoyju43i.png

 

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I tried going to those directions, and I keep getting the ones from this list:

Smokey Chromis 
Herring 
Octopus 
Sailfish 
Bigeye 
Cuttlefish 
Pintado 
Flying Fish 
Mackerel Pike 
Mullet 
Saurel

Would you be able to provide a screenshot of this spot? Here is the spots I've tried...

 

I went through my screenshot records for the record of that catch, which will give you the exact location and species catch.

Seas of Bantos (East) fishing location

Seas of Bantos (East) Skipjack in catch

Note that in the chat log is the capture of a Skipjack with the minimap indicating Seas of Banto plus other fish from that table (not all and some possibly mixed from spawns etc.) There you can see the four Skipjack caught.

This is the most caught from anywhere in one sample catch but it's most probably simply RNG and it remains a low percentage of the catch. This may prove different as more catches are recorded but seems fairly consistent to date.

On the location, I was't kidding when I noted in the list The boundaries of the Sea and fish tables is rather confused in this E area. This is also the case when harpoon fishing.

As you can see, you were all around but just not quite in the spot. In fact it extends down further SW towards Lisz Island from memory but there is no definitive boundary and most likely simply miss-drawn invisible fish boundary by the developers.

The other option is to simply fish the Seas of Olvia waters as you will see, the catch appears identical (and why being close there seems to be some crossover which occurs for the harpooning also from the linked document)

I doubt the drop rate is different in the Seas of Banto to the Seas of Olvia for Skipjack, which is also noted for that fish table. Just a low drop rate it seems as discussed.

If you don't mind me asking, what are you fishing the species for specifically? My interest is piqued.

Oh cool! Now I can link the forum thread directly instead of hunting down the reddit thread every time. :D 

Always happy to oblige @WingsofHeaven ;) 

I find that the formatting is easier to read on this forum and Reddit made me reformat my nice neat markdown which meant a load of double spaces for the lists.

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TY Moon, I guess I was like an inch away from the correct spot.

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TY Moon, I guess I was like an inch away from the correct spot.

My pleasure.

Yep, literally can be the difference. Wait till you want Amberjack. The spot is literally a few metres wide... the only place for it I think so far.

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anyone maybe know about the inland fishing species how they changed?! normaly i could get crawfishes around the northern wheat plantation,,,but now after my stack is gone and i went to fish me new ones i get alot of new fishes that i never saw before and now crawfishes oO

Anyone maybe can give me a tip were i can get seafood around calpheon?!

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anyone maybe know about the inland fishing species how they changed?! normaly i could get crawfishes around the northern wheat plantation,,,but now after my stack is gone and i went to fish me new ones i get alot of new fishes that i never saw before and now crawfishes oO

Anyone maybe can give me a tip were i can get seafood around calpheon?!

I have covered the freshwater fishing across Valencia now but not the older inland areas much so I can;t give a specific spot for Crawfish.

However the freshwater species appear to be grouped into several typical freshwater fish tables, a couple of which contain crawfish. The ones I have recorded are below.

If you start catching some of the fish in these tables it 'should' also contain some crawfish. The white quality species are often common across fish tables so check mostly the green quality and up.

It is not comprehensive but should help a bit when trying different waters.

There is another type of fish table in some waters , usually smalller ones but not exclusively I refer to as the Default fish table, which seems to be where the developers have not set a specific fish table or some bug. It consists only of Fish Bones, Seaweed and normally Sandeel, all sea catches for some reason even inland (even desert oases) If you get just that move on.

Good luck with the search.

Pacu fish table


Pacu
Carp
Cherry Salmon
Catfish
Crucian Carp
Bleeker
Crawfish
Minnow
Perch
Ancient Crystal Relic Shard
Silver Key
Broken Bottle Fragment
Fertilizer Sack
Washed-Up Laundry

and

Leather Carp fish table


Leather Carp
Piranha
Yellow-Head Catfish
Kahlia Marginata
Smelt
Sweetfish
Bleeker
Crawfish
Minnow
Perch
Ancient Relic Crystal Shard
Silver Key
Broken Bottle Fragment
Fertilizer Bag
Washed-Up Laundry

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ok had some other fishes in my test in the ponds around calpheon...i think i wll do some afk fishing the next days and after filling my inventory i will post the fishlist in this thread for all others.

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Coelacanth can now be fished everywhere as a rare chance.

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Coelacanth can now be fished everywhere as a rare chance.

Good point. I have added a comment to reflect this. Thanks for the post.

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