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Keep fighting if you want the Marketplace Bonus to be taken out!

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If we stop complaining about it we won't get a response out of DAUM or PA that we want, Some people are trying to calm us down to keep the marketplace deduction in there, Keep fighting. If DAUM won't give us a Poll over it we'll force the poll this way.

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I for sure will. And I hope Daum stops testing the waters with every patch trying to shove pearl items that are always in the fringe of P2W

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Funny thing is i would buy the pack without the marketplace tax thing, i wont with it though, to someone who has say 200 mil to blow they can quite easily buy boss armor off the night vendor then turn around and sell it at a premium, furthering the money they have and thereby their ability to get everything, there is still RNG to contend with of course but i still dont like the borderline tactic, it also removes the reason to go into housing to get the tax break if you can just buy it.

Im all for removing that part at least.

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Funny thing is i would buy the pack without the marketplace tax thing, i wont with it though, to someone who has say 200 mil to blow they can quite easily buy boss armor off the night vendor then turn around and sell it at a premium, furthering the money they have and thereby their ability to get everything, there is still RNG to contend with of course but i still dont like the borderline tactic, it also removes the reason to go into housing to get the tax break if you can just buy it.

Im all for removing that part at least.

Why are people so against scalping? Seriously what's wrong with scalping? Do you not appreciate fluidity in the markets?

Is it pure jealousy? Seriously cannot understand why people are so against scalping.

Also you do realize that set prices allow for scalping without any risk, mind you, more so than the tax, yet you and people like you are against scalping, but not set price ranges?

Only reason I don't scalp is the 35% market tax, that being said you obviously don't even realize scalping is in the game right? Straw man some more...

Witches earrings and MOS have both gone down to 6 Mil and spiked up to 12.5 mil and now MOS is down to 6 mil and witches below 10 mil, both making scalping profitable EVEN AFTER TAX!

SO do you guys have a point here? Or has Matrix affected you so much that IGNORANCE IS TRULY BLISS?

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scalping ffs people its called arbitrage or buy low sell high, if this game claims to be a player based market than why the hell is there such retarded restrictions on trading. And everyone complained about the tax rate VOILA they give you an option and now they complain.. its like they can't win. Also if you had listened to us korean players you'd have known this was inevitably coming to the NA version it was just a matter of time, give it a month or less i bet theyll add trees of kimasilva.

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Why are people so against scalping? Seriously what's wrong with scalping? Do you not appreciate fluidity in the markets?

Is it pure jealousy? Seriously cannot understand why people are so against scalping.

Also you do realize that set prices allow for scalping without any risk, mind you, more so than the tax, yet you and people like you are against scalping, but not set price ranges?

Only reason I don't scalp is the 35% market tax, that being said you obviously don't even realize scalping is in the game right? Straw man some more...

Witches earrings and MOS have both gone down to 6 Mil and spiked up to 12.5 mil and now MOS is down to 6 mil and witches below 10 mil, both making scalping profitable EVEN AFTER TAX!

SO do you guys have a point here? Or has Matrix affected you so much that IGNORANCE IS TRULY BLISS?

No straw men here buddy, the market spikes because for a few days people sell low to make money, no MoS on market? people sell at max.

Don't make assumptions about me, it makes you look like an idiot, you dont know me or why i do the things i do, i just said i wont use it while the tax is implemented, it removes the reason to even use a mechanic in the game for a start, which should be used not made redundant, its called fallout effects.

Why does one invest in a personal house, some its for points FOR the tax break (which is now pointless) how does one get points? by buying marketplace housing items for one (now also redundant) where do said items come from? crafting (now also redundant since people dont need to buy them).

You see where im going with this skippy? No? thought not.

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Lol everyone can just go and cry all they want like that time we tried to ask them to reimplement 1% exp loss from pk. Nothing happened. They just gave us some bullcrap that it caters to casuals. This too caters to casuals so goodluck with trying to get it removed.

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No straw men here buddy, the market spikes because for a few days people sell low to make money, no MoS on market? people sell at max.

Don't make assumptions about me, it makes you look like an idiot, you dont know me or why i do the things i do, i just said i wont use it while the tax is implemented, it removes the reason to even use a mechanic in the game for a start, which should be used not made redundant, its called fallout effects.

Why does one invest in a personal house, some its for points FOR the tax break (which is now pointless) how does one get points? by buying marketplace housing items for one (now also redundant) where do said items come from? crafting (now also redundant since people dont need to buy them).

You see where im going with this skippy? No? thought not.

Link on ranked houses affecting Tax please.

I don't make assumptions, I read what you post and answer it.

Please explain how scalping wasn't possible before and why you are SOOOO against it?

Otherwise this thread/ your point is totally pointless.... 

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Lots of idiots in this post.  The tax decrease is perfectly fine and I have crap tons of money.  I dont see anything wrong with it since that tax money doesnt even go anywhere.

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Link on ranked houses affecting Tax please.

I don't make assumptions, I read what you post and answer it.

Please explain how scalping wasn't possible before and why you are SOOOO against it?

Otherwise this thread/ your point is totally pointless.... 

I have no issue with scalping, why you are so tunnel visioned on that i dont know, There are multiple rescources for you to look up on housing affecting tax, its even in the hint box in game, go look at it instead of sitting in a forum talking out that thing your sitting on?

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Just like the 1%, nobody will care later on, that is when they realise that they still make money the old way. It is great if you get lucky on a bheg glove to "resell" but... come on, 84%? of a Bheg Gloves Selling Price,  unless you get it dirt cheap (60ish million?) reselling boss gear is not what I would call profitable. Or energy worth.

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I have no issue with scalping, why you are so tunnel visioned on that i dont know, There are multiple rescources for you to look up on housing affecting tax, its even in the hint box in game, go look at it instead of sitting in a forum talking out that thing your sitting on?

Dude your whole first point is basically against scalping just not using the word.

So for the third -----ing time lol Why are you so against scalping? If you had a rank 1 house, how did this affect you? If the only reason you were going for a rank 1 house was the tax break, now you don't have to.

Also, sorry for asking for clarification on something, believe it or not, I don't know everything about this game nor do I claim to.  Thanks for clarifying though, did not know that and didn't / don't care as I don't go for a rank 1 house anyways.

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Rule of any business... Listen to your paying customers, let the free loaders quit the game.

Thank you Daum for doing something smart for a change.

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So youre saying if I buy this package ill maigcally have a penta gear? or a bunch of items to sell in the market to utilize the market +30% bonus? OR do I still need to go fish/grind/farm to get the item to sell in the market?

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Honestly I don't see this going anywhere. They stayed away from it for months and now it's time for more reliable income. A sub will do that for them. The beauty package they sold before was overpriced and I doubt many people used it for long.

The new package has things to motivate a variety of different players to spend money on a monthly basis. I just don't see it going anywhere. Especially since the polls suggest 30% of people don't mind it. Even if only 3% of players purchased the sub I'm sure Daum/PA will be raking in a lot more money.

 

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People need something to rage about I guess.

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Rule of any business... Listen to your paying customers, let the free loaders quit the game.

Thank you Daum for doing something smart for a change.

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ayy lmao ;)

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Sure. I don't care much either way (I'm all about the cosmetics) but if the majority want the 30% gone I've got zero objections. ;)

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People need something to rage about I guess.

^This.

 

 

Besides kids. More money means you get more of the content you ----- about not having yet faster.

I Find it funny that the people who do indeed cry about their favorite class not being out yet, are the same people -----ing about the company making money.

 

Y'all clearly are not in on the know about how this shit works hahaha

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ayy lmao ;)

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why do you even buy anything less than 100$? The bonus pearls of 100 is more than those given by lesser values combined even if you stack them.

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why do you even buy anything less than 100$? The bonus pearls of 100 is more than those given by lesser values combined even if you stack them.

I didn't include the dates.
I only buy pearls when I know I need / want something.

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Dude your whole first point is basically against scalping just not using the word.

So for the third -----ing time lol Why are you so against scalping? If you had a rank 1 house, how did this affect you? If the only reason you were going for a rank 1 house was the tax break, now you don't have to.

Also, sorry for asking for clarification on something, believe it or not, I don't know everything about this game nor do I claim to.  Thanks for clarifying though, did not know that and didn't / don't care as I don't go for a rank 1 house anyways.

Exactly, now you dont have to, which removes an entire MECHANIC from the game, as well as a reason for people to craft a rather large list of items. THAT is the problem, how many people invested time/money/energy into making thier money that way? and now its just "oh well hard luck".

I think even the biggest dickhead in the world could see the problem with that.

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No need to fight for a lost cause, just let them milk  all the money from whales/fanboys until the whales realised black desert online has become a real in-game desert as it began to become since valencia update.

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Exactly, now you dont have to, which removes an entire MECHANIC from the game, as well as a reason for people to craft a rather large list of items. THAT is the problem, how many people invested time/money/energy into making thier money that way? and now its just "oh well hard luck".

I think even the biggest dickhead in the world could see the problem with that.

Um.. seriously you went for a rank 1 house soley for that tax break? Seriously? 

I still see this as a straw man argument at best.  The investment nodes are way more of a reason, other than just decking out the house, than anything else.

I mean you see so many threads about rank 1 houses right?  I don't mean to discount your concern, if you really care about rank 1 houses, but I believe most players could care less.

No need to fight for a lost cause, just let them milk  all the money from whales/fanboys until the whales realised black desert online has become a real in-game desert as it began to become since valencia update.

Than leave, go play another game...

Star wars still going strong, for crying out loud GW1 is still going.

Do you need a lot of people to agree with you to validate your opinion? Do you need a lot of people to play the same game as you to validate it? 

Do you have a source for this games population numbers? since this company isn't a publicly trading company are these numbers even available besides GUESSTIMATES BY THIRD PARTY SOURCES?

Guess not, but thanks for your concerns, they have been dully noted and the CEO is aware of your opinion!

Also wtf are you guys on? Shouldn't you be lauding this change if you own a rank 1 house because with both bonuses you are actually now paying no taxes?

Dark Exile the -----? This helps the mechanic doesn't hurt it? Are you trolling and I fell for it?

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Um.. seriously you went for a rank 1 house soley for that tax break? Seriously? 

I still see this as a straw man argument at best.  The investment nodes are way more of a reason, other than just decking out the house, than anything else.

I mean you see so many threads about rank 1 houses right?  I don't mean to discount your concern, if you really care about rank 1 houses, but I believe most players could care less.

most players could care less about nodes too, though that claim would need statistical evidence.

Just for future reference people are allowed an opinion, strange as it seems alot of people paid for this game which funnily enough gives them a right to voice it, another note i dont do housing at all but then most of the people that do generally dont bother with forums because it is largely the domain of trolls and pvpers whining about the latest nerf.

However i am more than happy to voice my concern about something that is rather obviously removing the point in parts of the game, im fairly certain if the added a feature to buy node territories there would be a rather large turnout of people against it now wouldn't there? There should be nothing in that shop that removes a point in a game design feature, period.

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