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It's only a matter of time till we get Valks cry

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PA is steadily and naturally shifting the cash shop into a grey area outside P2W, while they test the waters as the players needs time to endure the inevitable changes. By adding items like camo suit (that has an advantage in PvP) and valuepack with its 30% marketplace bonus, it's inevitable that we will get Valks cry, an item in other versions that gives failstacks through money, the real deal.

It is no secret that the current enchanting system is not meant for TET on most equip, even TRI is a high risk for jewelry. And to build TRI stacks you have to use the odd method of breaking your main gear. The transitioning has already started as CM_Jouska has already stepped down and therefore distanced himself from the statement that EU/NA would never get said item. Keep saving your jewelry, shards and blackstones boys, this is part of the BDO roadmap and time efficiency planning every solid player has to go through.

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Even with valks cry. Failstacking on your maingear is the only way to get high failstacks

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They have already said 100% we are not going to get Valks cry in our version of the game so quit scaremongering...

they also said we where not getting this value pack mate

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The transitioning has already started as CM_Jouska has already stepped down and therefore distanced himself from the statement that EU/NA would never get said item.

Jouska has not stepped down. @PM_Belsazar is on paternity leave. CM Jouska is filling his role, now as @PM_Jouska

they also said we where not getting this value pack mate

They never said we won't get the value pack. Their wording was along the lines of: as of now we have no plans on adding the value pack. Their statement on valk's cry: We won't get it and it has no place in NA/EU.

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hurrrr durrrr

remember this thread when they add it

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remember this thread when they add it

remember me correcting you when they don't.

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Hopefully we do get it, but with a equal solution paid with silver

Way to much RNG with failstacking

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We already pay for the box, have an expensive cash shop and now a "subscription", so its quite clear the path they are taking.

I'd say they will implement Valks Cry, its the logical thing to think.

But at this point we can only speculate

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sky is so full of shit, it hurts to read your comments

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Jouska has not stepped down. @PM_Belsazar is on paternity leave. CM Jouska is filling his role, now as @PM_Jouska

They never said we won't get the value pack. Their wording was along the lines of: as of now we have no plans on adding the value pack. Their statement on valk's cry: We won't get it and it has no place in NA/EU.

They said we won't get subscriptions or any such thing as "Premium". Now, our views on what a subscription is might differ, but would you not agree that Value pack (a pack which give a lot of bonuses for 30 days) sounds a LOT like a 30 days subscription/premium item? <.< 

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We have more than enough cries already, thanks.

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They said we won't get subscriptions or any such thing as "Premium". Now, our views on what a subscription is might differ, but would you not agree that Value pack (a pack which give a lot of bonuses for 30 days) sounds a LOT like a 30 days subscription/premium item? <.< 

No, because it offers nothing aside from Distant Node Investment, which costs energy and is a waste, the gives a distinct advantage over other plays. Also, it's not required. The benefits are very minimum for it be called "Premium."

sky is so full of shit, it hurts to read your comments

Glad i have a fanboy. Kappa

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They have already said 100% we are not going to get Valks cry in our version of the game so quit scaremongering...

They only said "this item has no place in our build" which is similar to what they said about subscription and yet here it is.

By that they probably mean, it has no place since our version is behind and adding now would be too early but later in couple of months, then it'd be different "build". They never claimed "We will never have this item on the cash shop in the future." which would be more direct statement and you could later quote the lie if they do add in the future.

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They only said "this item has no place in our build" which is similar to what they said about subscription and yet here it is.

By that they probably mean, it has no place since our version is behind and adding now would be too early but later in couple of months, then it'd be different "build". They never claimed "We will never have this item on the cash shop in the future." which would be more direct statement and you could later quote the lie if they do add in the future.

No it's not. Don't know where you live but over here, «we don't have X» isn't the same as «we will never have X».

Now if you have sources that we aren't aware of, please post them.

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No it's not. Don't know where you live but over here, «we don't have X» isn't the same as «we will never have X».

Now if you have sources that we aren't aware of, please post them.

wtf does that have to do with this.

Their message was just "this item has no place in our build". That could mean anything. They never acknowledged it wouldn't be added in the future. Why couldn't they be more direct instead of posting that sketchy statement? 

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sky is so full of shit, it hurts to read your comments

what i do D:

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I agree with Sky. Why? Because if Daum adds something like this, that is obviously completely against what our NA/EU player base wants then the game will fail. Already the value pack has people leaving. The camo suit did aswell. But all those things are not "technically" pay to win. It is pay for convenience. Not that that makes it right. But it isn't pay to win. Now adding what the OP speaks of would be so blatantly pay to win that half the community would be gone hours after the announcement (actually that would be a good april fools prank on there part...). Anyway, thats my take of it. Take from it what you will.

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No, because it offers nothing aside from Distant Node Investment, which costs energy and is a waste, the gives a distinct advantage over other plays. Also, it's not required. The benefits are very minimum for it be called "Premium."

Idk :c Let's say I sell a boss armor or a TRI weapon/armor for.... Idk... 250 mill? That's a bit cheap but let's go with that. 250 mil without Value pack = 162500000 silver. With Value pack it's 211250000 silver. That's a 48.75 million silver difference for 1 expensive piece of gear/weapon sold. You can't say that a 48.75 million benefit just for buying/paying for an item irl isn't p2w or that it's a "minor" gain. 48.75 million can buy you quite a bit :/ maybe a pri or duo accessory if you're lucky? And I'd assume you sell for a LOT more than 250 million every single month >.< 

 

Beside the marketplace %, the 100 LT bonus and 16 extra inventory slots is a nice bonus as well <.< still not Premium enough for you? Add in exp bonuses then :D 

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wtf does that have to do with this.

Their message was just "this item has no place in our build". That could mean anything. They never acknowledged it wouldn't be added in the future. Why couldn't they be more direct instead of posting that sketchy statement? 

http://forum.blackdesertonline.com/index.php?/topic/99635-patch-notes-july-6th/&page=4#comment-1333472 Jouska specifically states it has no place in our version. This is different than saying it'll come around when our build changes, i'm near 100% certain of that.

Idk :c Let's say I sell a boss armor or a TRI weapon/armor for.... Idk... 250 mill? That's a bit cheap but let's go with that. 250 mil without Value pack = 162500000 silver. With Value pack it's 211250000 silver. That's a 48.75 million silver difference for 1 expensive piece of gear/weapon sold. You can't say that a 48.75 million benefit just for buying/paying for an item irl isn't p2w or that it's a "minor" gain. 48.75 million can buy you quite a bit :/ maybe a pri or duo accessory if you're lucky? And I'd assume you sell for a LOT more than 250 million every single month >.< 

 

Beside the marketplace %, the 100 LT bonus and 16 extra inventory slots is a nice bonus as well <.< still not Premium enough for you? Add in exp bonuses then :D 

50m can maybe buy you enough memory fragments to repair +14-+18 on boss armor? idk man.. feelsbad anyways if ur selling tri gear.

Edit to your edit: 100 lt can be overturned with loyalty, you'll run out of weight before you use those 16 slots while farming/grind (almost always) as for exp gains.. their's diminishing returns past a certain point, what the % value it DRs at i don't know, and with that being said - you can easily get 180% increased exp gain without the value pack and on top there's 50% exp weekends.

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http://forum.blackdesertonline.com/index.php?/topic/99635-patch-notes-july-6th/&page=4#comment-1333472 Jouska specifically states it has no place in our version. This is different than saying it'll come around when our build changes, i'm near 100% certain of that.

50m can maybe buy you enough memory fragments to repair +14-+18 on boss armor? idk man.. feelsbad anyways if ur selling tri gear.

That's still quite a large amount for "just paying" for a value pack, wouldn't you agree? And yes, Ik you can get 1400 loyalty 1 day pack, but more likely than not, you'll not be able to sell everything you got in 1 day <.<

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That's still quite a large amount for "just paying" for a value pack, wouldn't you agree? And yes, Ik you can get 1400 loyalty 1 day pack, but more likely than not, you'll not be able to sell everything you got in 1 day <.<

read my edit to your edit, and no i cannot agree. The value pack is all convenience. It offers nothing that completely ruins gameplay for those that don't use it.

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Lol@convinience. Keep deluding yourself.

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http://forum.blackdesertonline.com/index.php?/topic/99635-patch-notes-july-6th/&page=4#comment-1333472 Jouska specifically states it has no place in our version. This is different than saying it'll come around when our build changes, i'm near 100% certain of that.

Once again, it doesn't state it won't happen in the future. It only says "It has never been a part of our version and has no place in our version." The first part is true but the second part is sketchy again. He only says it has no place in our version. That could mean maybe it's too early right now to add now in our version. They could still add in the future, later version. 

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Once again, it doesn't state it won't happen in the future. It only says "It has never been a part of our version and has no place in our version." The first part is true but the second part is sketchy again. He only says it has no place in our version. That could mean maybe it's too early right now to add now in our version. They could still add in the future, later version. 

When it doesn't get added, remember my argument in this thread.

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