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Value Pack Discussions

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All who complain they have nothing but free, or are unemployed, as you can all see time, Daum is a business and needs to make money, this pack you look good so they can earn money monthly, would be better if the pack it was valued at 1000 pearls, but hey, it seems fair and it is the only way they can encourage some buying in the game, because as many of you are commenting on the game you buy once, but if you want a little extra, you can pay monthly. Sorry for my english and Good Job Daum

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Remove the tax, make it cheaper in pearls and leave all the rest. Or remove tax and add other stuff and mentain same pearl price.

Remove the 7 day Value Package loggin reward in day 28 as a compensation for above, leave the 1 day Value Package price in loyalty as is

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Make the value pack sell-able in the auction house

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1000 pearls?

Value Package Contents Pearl Shop (30 Days)

  • Distant Node Investment

    • Players can remotely invest in a node using the in-game map, similar to the un-invest node function.
       

  • Increase of Bag / Storage slots by +16

    • All characters on account will temporarily gain an additional +16 inventory slots.
       

  • Weight Limit Increased +100

    • All characters on account will temporarily gain an additional +100 weight capacity.
       

  • Unlimited Beauty Shop Access

    • For the duration of the Value Package players will be able to utilize the Beauty Shop Access as if they had purchased a 30 Day version from the pearl shop.
       

  • Combat / Life / Skill / Horse Experience gain +10%

    • For the duration of the Value Package players will receive an additional 10% experience gain for the forms of experience gain listed above.
       

  • Marketplace Collection Tax reduced by 30%

    • For the duration of the Value Package players will receive a 30% reduction in the amount of tax applied from items sold on the Auction House. For instance: You sell an item for 100% of its value - Minus 30% of taxe - Minus 5% of local taxes = So you get 65% of the original value. With this item you get an extra 30% of those 65% => 84.5%
       

  • Merv’s Palette (30d)

    • Players will gain the ability to use any dye available within the game on their armor without owning it. Please check below for additional information.
       

  • Bonus Items for purchase: Elion’s Blessing (x5), Bleach (x1)





    I Wont pay 100 pearl for this:

    -Distant Node Investment

    -Increase of Bag / Storage slots by +16
    -Weight Limit Increased +100
    -Unlimited Beauty Shop Access
    -Merv’s Palette (30d)


    the only great things about the value pack are the Experience, Merv Palette and the tax...

    :( don't remove please

     

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Make loyalty package (1 day) cost 100 or 200 loyalty. Yes can get 1 day every 1 or 2 days, there should be no issue with that as you still have to waste loyalty that could be spent on something else but instead its going for 1 day value packs.

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All who complain they have nothing but free, or are unemployed, as you can all see time, Daum is a business and needs to make money, this pack you look good so they can earn money monthly, would be better if the pack it was valued at 1000 pearls, but hey, it seems fair and it is the only way they can encourage some buying in the game, because as many of you are commenting on the game you buy once, but if you want a little extra, you can pay monthly. Sorry for my english and Good Job Daum

Wrong. I'm not unemployed and like the things the pack provides. I don't  like the Tax thing because I get more money per marketplace sale for paying  money.

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remove the market tax thing and it'll be fine.

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I think they need to remove the tax, if they do I'd buy the pack every month.

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Beside removing the marketplace %, I think that a lot of players would appreciate it if the loyalty cost was reduced to 200-400 loyalty for 1 day or something like 1400 for a 7 day package :) 

 

A personal suggestion would be to split the package (or keep the old (minus the marketplace %) and add two more packs, although Idk how happy the devs would be about either option): One with the exp bonuses, Weight limit and inventory expansion and then 1 package with the beauty options and merv's pallete and putting each pack on ~10 euro each. I think that a lot of people would like that as I know that some who are interested in the beauty stuff and doesn't like to combat too much, so they'd rather "just" have that part, and some ppl like combat and would like that more. Then ofc some ppl like both. 

So yeah :c I hope this counts as feedback without being too rude. 

PS: I'm quite sure everyone expected "No subscriptions in the game" to mean exactly that Jouska, NO subscription items in the game :c.

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Beside removing the marketplace %, I think that a lot of players would appreciate it if the loyalty cost was reduced to 200-400 loyalty for 1 day or something like 1400 for a 7 day package :) 

 

A personal suggestion would be to split the package (or keep the old (minus the marketplace %) and add two more packs, although Idk how happy the devs would be about either option): One with the exp bonuses, Weight limit and inventory expansion and then 1 package with the beauty options and merv's pallete and putting each pack on ~10 euro each. I think that a lot of people would like that as I know that some who are interested in the beauty stuff and doesn't like to combat too much, so they'd rather "just" have that part, and some ppl like combat and would like that more. Then ofc some ppl like both. 

So yeah :c I hope this counts as feedback without being too rude. 

PS: I'm quite sure everyone expected "No subscriptions in the game" to mean exactly that Jouska, NO subscription items in the game :c.

Not at all rude, thank you for the contribution. :)

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It's fine as it is, it's not p2w.
It's not such a big deal and it does not create any big differences between players.
If people think it is, it's because they love to whine and want everything free (We're in Europe, this is pretty common).

So keep it as it is, please. 

"Much love, bye bye"

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Greeting Adventurers,

 

Following this week's scheduled maintenance, with the introduction of the Value Package, there has been an outpouring of comments, criticism, feedback, and suggestions.  Of course these discussions have brought many valid points from multiple perspectives. Our Community Managers have been working diligently to keep up with the rush of threads, posts, and private messages.  We want you to know that this has not fallen on deaf ears, and we will be taking your messages to the developers in order to find a suitable resolution.  We have seen many proposed solutions and suggestions, all of which are being noted.  

 

The goal is to find a solution that is best suited for our region, and to that end we ask that you continue to share your thoughts so we can properly communicate on your behalf.  Of course we ask you do this as constructively as possible, the forums rules will be enforced, but that does not mean you are restricted from sharing your point of view, we simply ask you do so without abuse.

 

We understand how critical this topic is for many players, and we are going to make a point to communicate this.  As always we appreciate your support, and regardless of your stance we want to hear from you.

 

-The BDO Team

Please do not succumb to will of those that have been indoctrinated into the mob mentality that crying and complaining about everything they don't like will get them what they want, the vocal few do not speak for the silent many, the main concern now and in the future should be the server stability, if the incredible desync can be fixed then all most other issues people have can easily be worked around as some may even be attributed to the stability issue, What point is there to worry about the addition of something that is continually denounced as Pay to win by people who have no idea what that really means. I want to play Black Desert Online, not some chopped up deformed version of the original game that people keep wanting to turn it into, if you don't want to play the game that these people are working so hard to bring us, and to catch us up to the other versions content wise then why are you still here.

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We asked for it for months on the forums, no one was against it, Mainly to be added with Karmasilve buff in it. So this nerfed version i have no issue with

Theres Zero Pay to win as no HP/MP buff, regen, increase. No AP, DP buff. so literally no pay to win.

The Market tax is wrong was tested to be 20% (still up for debate) & that counters the "seiege" tax so its no big deal since Market tax is to high as it is.

So in short dont care nothing wrong with it the way it is. But no issues with you wanting to remove market tax to keep cry baby Archage players happy.

^ This is how I feel atm.

Except I want you to keep the tax so that the crying non-supporting players either quit the game or rage themselves into a coma of the sorts.

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Unless you are trying to suggest the value pack should be required to login.

don't you think that Value Pack option becomes necessary just to continue comfort gaming? so that we can regard it as a subscription, for every 30 days, literally.
btw such a state of affairs is totally acceptable for F2P, as we can see on KR&RU, but not on NA/EU B2P i think

and I'm not greedy, having quite a lot things from cash shop
but all these things do not affect the ingame economy as a whole

 

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Remove the Pack from Pearl Shop and make it cheaper in L-Shop..

Done!

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The ideal solution in my eyes would be:

1) Reduce the market modifier on the pack.

2) Make the loyalty pack cheaper (i.e. it's 1400 Loyalty for 1 day) and whilst I appreciate that you can't make it so cheap that the pearl version is pointless, something like 1000 for 2 days or 1400 Loyalty for 3-4 days would at least be better value in my opinion.

3) If we have to have the market modifier on the value pack at all, perhaps we could meet the community half-way and reduce the general market tax a little (say 25% instead of 35% as now), as well as reducing the market modifier on the pack.

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Just remove the -30% tax from market bonus, and all good ;)

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don't you think that Value Pack option becomes necessary just to continue comfort gaming? so that we can regard it as a subscription, for every 30 days, literally.btw such a state of affairs is totally acceptable for F2P, as we can see on KR&RU, but not on NA/EU B2P i think

and I'm not greedy, having quite a lot things from cash shop
but all these things do not affect the ingame economy as a whole

 

My e-mail is jouska@daumgames-eu.com feel free to email me if you would like to have a personal discussion about this, or start a standalone thread to discuss it with the community.

 

Thank you for your cooperation.

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Just remove the -30% tax from market bonus, and all good ;)

Yep, they could even lower the price a bit, say 10$ per month, which would be more than a reasonable enough price for unlimited color customization and some bonus weight for those who are willing to buy it each month.

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The main concern is to remove the tax reduction. It really has no place in the NA/EU version with the astronomical benefits that it provides crafting and life skill players. This problem arises due to the low profit margin for most items in BDO and a "race to the bottom" as the item provides distinct advantage to premium players and affect the economy.  Value Pack will instead be an option that players have to gain functions for all their characters at a reasonable monthly cost. Personally, my suggestions are:

Weight + 200LT

  • Rationale: 200LT is pretty much needed for most grinders. 100LT seems a bit small in my opinion

Cliff's Skill Add-On (30 day) 

  • it's a pretty core function for high level player

Armstrong's Skill Guide (1 days) 

  • it's a pretty core function for high level player

Storage +24 (instead of the current 16)

  • Rationale: storage is always an issue and it's not that expensive to add. 

Dedicated Support Staff

  • Rationale: It's always a good business practice to take care of the the recurring revenue and it will make the player feel that they are well taken care of in case some issue arises. 

Firecracker x5

  • It's one of those fun items that benefits the players and the community. Also gives a sense of joy to celebrate. 

Combat/Skill/Life/Horse EXP +10% 
Unlimited Beauty Salon 
Unlimited Use of Merv's Palette
Distant Node Investment (10 energy)
Inventory Expansion +16


- Other potential idea may be to increase the initial cost of Value Pack so that the first month is $20 and then renewal is $15. It would require an implementation of a "renew" system, but it might encourage players to keep their subscription. 
- Add "Value Pack" as the 30th Day Attendance Reward as we have in KR. This will allow players to experience the benefit and make the decision whether the subscription is worthwhile. Personally, this is how I started down the Premium membership myself. 

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Removed Amity +10% due to potential implementation issue.
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My e-mail is jouska@daumgames-eu.com feel free to email me if you would like to have a personal discussion about this, or start a standalone thread to discuss it with the community.

 

Thank you for your cooperation.

Not jouska@kakao-games-eu.com ? :D

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Not jouska@kakao-games-eu.com ? :D

Soon

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Remove the 30% tax

Build a wall around Heidel 

Bring back our jobs such a horse leveling and gathering 

kick out the IP bypassers, we do not who these people are but i assure you, they are not the best of the best 

Make black desert great again

"I have a dream"-Melania Trump

 

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@PM_Jouska please take some time and watch this video in which PvtWiggles and LazyPeon were discussing a few months ago (end of February) whether BDO was p2w or not and why.

 

 

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Just remove the -30% tax from market bonus, and all good ;)

nothing more to add

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