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Did they nerf the droprates of witchearing ??!!

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So first of i know what is rng you can have something by the first time or never or like million times i farmed some of the rarest items in another mmorgs for years but now i am pretty much pissed i farmed now like 30 hours total over 4 days what did i get over 50 relic shards 1 witch earing 4 Witch scroll( no witch earing in the bundles) and like 40 mio worth of bones . 6 S ranks one A rank ( no tower or the tree counted)  node lvl 9 ..... a month ago i go like 20 shards about 10 witch earing 2 scrolls ( there again like 3 or 4  with weekly and loyal ) and now nothing weapons are rare too. if some of my question good be answer would be awesome

1. Did they nerf the droprates ?

2. thought s rank gives you a small chance of better loot dont see it ...

3. Can pets loot rares ( ogre witch mos ancient some of that)

4. with node 9 i dont see a differens.....

Sry for Grammatiks and mistakes in languages would still be awesome if some can be answer ....

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Maybe stealth nerf because of night vendor patrigio.

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So first of i know what is rng you can have something by the first time or never or like million times i farmed some of the rarest items in another mmorgs for years but now i am pretty much pissed i farmed now like 30 hours total over 4 days what did i get over 50 relic shards 1 witch earing 4 Witch scroll( no witch earing in the bundles) and like 40 mio worth of bones . 6 S ranks one A rank ( no tower or the tree counted)  node lvl 9 ..... a month ago i go like 20 shards about 10 witch earing 2 scrolls ( there again like 3 or 4  with weekly and loyal ) and now nothing weapons are rare too. if some of my question good be answer would be awesome

1. Did they nerf the droprates ?

2. thought s rank gives you a small chance of better loot dont see it ...

3. Can pets loot rares ( ogre witch mos ancient some of that)

4. with node 9 i dont see a differens.....

Sry for Grammatiks and mistakes in languages would still be awesome if some can be answer ....

As far as i know, people have yet to prove rank S and node level affect loot quality.

My theory is that node level affects quantity only, meaning you get more from stacked items but won't get anything more when it comes to items that always drop alone. For knowledge, i believe it only affects your accuracy, damage, defense and evasion against each mobs.

So all in all, you're just having a bad streak.

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i dont know... feels the same... no node, c on all mobs, i get about a ring/earring depend on hexe or bloody monastery, per hour of grind on average there (i dont grind very much).. i've been playing since release, and this is pretty much what i get.... sometimes i kill literally 5 mobs and get an earring from hexe or MoS at bloody monastary, sometimes i dont get anything for 2 hours and i just quit grinding and wait another day to grind again... also, pets dont necessary loot anything more rare because i remembered i had to hand pick a couple of loot piles that my pets didnt get to, and they turned out to be valuable accessories.

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i dont know... feels the same... no node, c on all mobs, i get about a ring per hour of grind on average there (i dont grind very much).. i've been playing since release, and this is pretty much what i get.... sometimes i kill literally 5 mobs and get an earring or MoS at bloody monastary, sometimes i dont get anything for 2 hours and i just quit grinding and wait another day to grind again... also, pets dont necessary loot anything more rare because i remembered i had to hand pick a couple of loot piles that my pets didnt get to, and they turned out to be valuable accessories.

yea that feeling i get since the release that pets cant loot blue things really every blue ive got i from picking up by myself or it feels like it

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yea that feeling i get since the release that pets cant loot blue things really every blue ive got i from picking up by myself or it feels like it

Nah they loot everything, just they take what drops first is all, then they go on CD. Pets prioritizing rare loot is a myth.

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yea that feeling i get since the release that pets cant loot blue things really every blue ive got i from picking up by myself or it feels like it

i mean... they still do... but it might be because its like, right beside them... but they wont pick up rare loots on a higher priority...

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As far as i know, people have yet to prove rank S and node level affect loot quality.

My theory is that node level affects quantity only, meaning you get more from stacked items but won't get anything more when it comes to items that always drop alone. For knowledge, i believe it only affects your accuracy, damage, defense and evasion against each mobs.

So all in all, you're just having a bad streak.

I thought Belsazar already confirmed that the higher the node level, the better your chance at rare loots?  About the rankings, I thought RU/JP/KR GMs or whoever they were, already confirmed this?

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I thought Belsazar already confirmed that the higher the node level, the better your chance at rare loots?  About the rankings, I thought RU/JP/KR GMs or whoever they were, already confirmed this?

its really hard to say HOW MUCH rng gets affected because well, rng is still just rng.... you could have a 10% increase in rare loot drops, or 0.1%... its just really hard to say... from what i see from other people and my own experience, it really doesnt have TOO much influence....

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I thought Belsazar already confirmed that the higher the node level, the better your chance at rare loots?  About the rankings, I thought RU/JP/KR GMs or whoever they were, already confirmed this?

I'd love to read the source ?

That's only speculations on my part so take it with a grain of salt.

Now that's said, even if it were true, you're still dealing with +X% on a base 0.0X% which is rather meaningless unless over extremely lengthy samples.

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I'd love to read the source ?

That's only speculations on my part so take it with a grain of salt.

Now that's said, even if it were true, you're still dealing with +X% on a base 0.0X% which is rather meaningless unless over extremely lengthy samples.

the source was from that wiggles guy with one of the GMs from a couple of months ago... but yea, rare loots have a drop rate of like.. 0.01% or something (or even less.. i mean come on, how many times have we killed the same mob 1000 times and not get a drop... >_>) ... even if you up it by 200% it is still tiny chance...

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As far as i know, people have yet to prove rank S and node level affect loot quality.

My theory is that node level affects quantity only, meaning you get more from stacked items but won't get anything more when it comes to items that always drop alone. For knowledge, i believe it only affects your accuracy, damage, defense and evasion against each mobs.

PM_Belsazar confirmed in an interview that node level affects rare item drop rate. 

Should be somewhere in one of the interviews on this Youtube channel.

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This is my theory, chose to believe it or not. This game is not 100% RNG. The more you farm/play the lower your rare drop rate. I and a number of others have experienced what you have at that very location and many others. 

Is this some anti-botting code? or maybe a code for initial increased drop rates as a catch up mechanism? Who knows. 

I'm willing to bet if you were to chart your drops over a week of farming, from server reset to server reset you will find a downward trend with highest drop rates coming after longer periods of being logged out of the game.

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PM_Belsazar confirmed in an interview that node level affects rare item drop rate. 

Yea ok so we're back to meaningless % increase on extremeley low % to begin with. It's alright if you're farming say, Grunils at the Manes, but you won't probably notice any difference farming ORs or WEs unless you do that every day litteraly for years.

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i dont know... feels the same... no node, c on all mobs, i get about a ring/earring depend on hexe or bloody monastery, per hour of grind on average there (i dont grind very much).. i've been playing since release, and this is pretty much what i get.... sometimes i kill literally 5 mobs and get an earring from hexe or MoS at bloody monastary, sometimes i dont get anything for 2 hours and i just quit grinding and wait another day to grind again... also, pets dont necessary loot anything more rare because i remembered i had to hand pick a couple of loot piles that my pets didnt get to, and they turned out to be valuable accessories.

I have to agree with the OP.  Something is clearly wrong!

My wife and I have been trying to get her earrings for almost a week now. This last weekend we both farmed Hexe constantly from about 10am to after 9pm Saturday, and for another 6 hours on Sunday ( taking breaks to empty our bages ) and not one Earring dropped for either of us. I thought maybe we were in the wrong area and asked our Guild. They confirmed we were farming the right mobs. Two other Guildies went and farmed because they couldn't believe what we were saying. 3 hours later they also said not one dropped.

They wanted us to put in a ticket because they said it was clearly bugged. We haven't yet. We just bought the Earrings for my wife.

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I have to agree with the OP.  Something is clearly wrong!

My wife and I have been trying to get her earrings for almost a week now. This last weekend we both farmed Hexe constantly from about 10am to after 9pm Saturday, and for another 6 hours on Sunday ( taking breaks to empty our bages ) and not one Earring dropped for either of us. I thought maybe we were in the wrong area and asked our Guild. They confirmed we were farming the right mobs. Two other Guildies went and farmed because they couldn't believe what we were saying. 3 hours later they also said not one dropped.

They wanted us to put in a ticket because they said it was clearly bugged. We haven't yet. We just bought the Earrings for my wife.

This is an extremely small sample.

Next day you may very well get your first WE within an hour, and a second one 2 minutes later.

As always, RNG. The fact that you loot nothing doesn't mean you have increased chances to loot something.

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Yea ok so we're back to meaningless % increase on extremeley low % to begin with. It's alright if you're farming say, Grunils at the Manes, but you won't probably notice any difference farming ORs or WEs unless you do that every day litteraly for years.

Any increase is an increase. I understand that 0.001% on top of 0.01% feels like nothing, but when you're farming for 100's of hours to get 1-2 items, anything that saves time is a blessing. 

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I have to agree with the OP.  Something is clearly wrong!

My wife and I have been trying to get her earrings for almost a week now. This last weekend we both farmed Hexe constantly from about 10am to after 9pm Saturday, and for another 6 hours on Sunday ( taking breaks to empty our bages ) and not one Earring dropped for either of us. I thought maybe we were in the wrong area and asked our Guild. They confirmed we were farming the right mobs. Two other Guildies went and farmed because they couldn't believe what we were saying. 3 hours later they also said not one dropped.

They wanted us to put in a ticket because they said it was clearly bugged. We haven't yet. We just bought the Earrings for my wife.

hmm... it might be just hexe skeletons are bugged out (?) which is also hard to say because of rng... just yesterday morning, i went to "farm" for MoS at bloody monastery, no node, c knowledge on everything and once again, killed 4 mobs and got the ring.. didnt even need to pop GM's blessing... and i just left...

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Any increase is an increase. I understand that 0.001% on top of 0.01% feels like nothing, but when you're farming for 100's of hours to get 1-2 items, anything that saves time is a blessing. 

More like, if you really have the excess energy, why not.

Although now we have the night vendor, ayy.

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I also don't think a sample size is a factor for getting these items.  Some people might argue with me but I think it's just straight out luck.  Not luck in game but luck in general.  It's like picking a winning lottery ticket out of gazillions of lottery tickets out there.  You could buy just one ticket and hit the jackpot or buy hundreds of them and still lose.

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I also don't think a sample size is a factor for getting these items.  Some people might argue with me but I think it's just straight out luck.  Not luck in game but luck in general.  It's like picking a winning lottery ticket out of gazillions of lottery tickets out there.  You could buy just one ticket and hit the jackpot or buy hundreds of them and still lose.

^ exactly! bdo is like an online casino with more actions involved, arguably lol

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Any increase is an increase. I understand that 0.001% on top of 0.01% feels like nothing, but when you're farming for 100's of hours to get 1-2 items, anything that saves time is a blessing. 

Yea i'm not judging, i'm saying this in relation to people wondering why they don't get more witch earrings despites rank  10 nodes.

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This is my theory, chose to believe it or not. This game is not 100% RNG. The more you farm/play the lower your rare drop rate. I and a number of others have experienced what you have at that very location and many others.

do a real test with value, otherwise, that's most likely only supposition tho.

Even if, having some stuff that lower your drop % still dont change everything keep be RNG :P 

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As far as i know, people have yet to prove rank S and node level affect loot quality.

IDK about rank S, but PA themselves confirmed node level effects not just the trash drops, but the rare loot as well.

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