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Wizard vs Kunoichi


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Arena duel against a Kuno thoughts?

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2 gud

I dont think people understand you're getting some high quality shit from this vid, 2 of the best players from Edan in their respective classes. 

 

I see you use earthquake very offensively a lot, I might start doing that everytime its off cd during non essential fights just to discover some better uses for it cause tbh I don't even use the skill at all right now and mines maxed out

Edited by Dank

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I love watching wiz duels, it's hella entertaining. Definitely has one of the highest skill caps of all classes. There's so much more than just straight up one shotting someone in a combo. It's the small things like teleport juking, using abilities that grant you immunity to CC for a second or two/super armor/iframe at the right time, kiting effectively while setting up for combos, applying debuffs etc. that distinguishes a top wiz from a decent one.

Kunoichis and ninjas are tricky to face, annoying as hell. Gotta play it fairly well to beat them most of the time. Duels were all right - I would've probably played it a bit differently, but they were fun to watch :) Keep uploading!

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Love to see this guy fight a well geared / good Beserker (Currently the bane of my life)

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I'd love to see pro wizard vs warrior 1vs1 pvp (equally geared).

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I love 1+v1 fighting with my wizard.

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Great watch! As others have said, please upload vs other classes!

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u know u play a game, where u need just gear and level to be "pro"

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Good fights!

Not saying I'd do it better, but a few points from me:

- Teleport use is sometimes a little early

- You could save some stamina by adding earth response for mobility during dodge kiting, not just in knockdown situations. 3 sec cd does allow that. It's also faster

- You could've used frigid fog even more. I do believe you could've countered some of the knockdowns. Not saying it's easy!

Question I have: How's your gear compared to the kunoichi?

@Wollbert

This gear is as heavily gear as skill dependant. Some people just refuse to acknowledge that and are looking for excuses for their gameplay.

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This gear is as heavily gear as skill dependant

You mean this Game i guess and this Game is definetly not a bit skilldependent^^ At Least not in 1v1.

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I've seen rangers dancing around warriors or valk's for minutes without getting grabbed. I've seen wizard's CC-locking and kiting zerker's without them ever getting close. I've seen sorcs fighting 3 people constantly iframe/block spamming and not getting a tick of damage while winning those fights.

Does that mean one player was just bad? Or was the other one good? I don't care. Either of those is what is called "difference in skill" and it means a lot. Because you can time skills between iframes on sorc. You can grab any ranger by utilizing your mobility and blocks well as a warrior and a zerker definitly can get a stomp off hitting whe wizard and successfully grabbing him afterwards.

This game is incredibly quick and allows plays. Gear has a huge influence, so does server stability, so does "skill" - your ability to position, to move, your choice of the next skill, to anticipate enemy movement and actions...

Anyway, we're starting to go offtopic...

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time to get sober. u should play a real pvp game first

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2 gud

I dont think people understand you're getting some high quality shit from this vid, 2 of the best players from Edan in their respective classes. 

 

I see you use earthquake very offensively a lot, I might start doing that everytime its off cd during non essential fights just to discover some better uses for it cause tbh I don't even use the skill at all right now and mines maxed out

No offense to the wiz but that isnt "best player in class" material. To reactive instead of proactive. Lots of wasted casts and even against a kuno earthquake is more of a gimp then a boon unless its perfectly timed for an anticipated cc.   

Also surprisingly almost no chain lightning use? Chain shuts down ninjas and kunos while also being able to hit/track them during stealth. Have the extra modded slow on it with the dot and it will just wreck them. I've duel'd alot of ninjas/kunos that would die while in stealth or while trying to run away. 


Chain into insta storm is also one of the best combos to follow up a freeze with because it brings them to a crawl as soon as they're on their feet again. 

Good use of PA's for sure. 

Don't get me wrong, not saying hes bad. But lets not go crazy here. 

Edited by TrullsRohk
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i cant see shit with your powers in the way

also put each others stats otherwise this is useless

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No offense to the wiz but that isnt "best player in class" material. To reactive instead of proactive. Lots of wasted casts and even against a kuno earthquake is more of a gimp then a boon unless its perfectly timed for an anticipated cc.   
Also surprisingly almost no chain lightning use? Chain shuts down ninjas and kunos while also being able to hit/track them during stealth. Have the extra modded slow on it with the dot and it will just wreck them. I've duel'd alot of ninjas/kunos that would die while in stealth or while trying to run away. 


Chain into insta storm is also one of the best combos to follow up a freeze with because it brings them to a crawl as soon as they're on their feet again. 

Good use of PA's for sure. 

Don't get me wrong, not saying hes bad. But lets not go crazy here. 

u are certain chain lightning tracks through stealth?

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u are certain chain lightning tracks through stealth?

It definitly does. It will stay connected if you use it before stealth and it also connects if you get roughly the right direction while stealth is already activated, as if the target was visible.

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Good fights!

Not saying I'd do it better, but a few points from me:

- Teleport use is sometimes a little early

- You could save some stamina by adding earth response for mobility during dodge kiting, not just in knockdown situations. 3 sec cd does allow that. It's also faster

- You could've used frigid fog even more. I do believe you could've countered some of the knockdowns. Not saying it's easy!

Question I have: How's your gear compared to the kunoichi?

@Wollbert

This gear is as heavily gear as skill dependant. Some people just refuse to acknowledge that and are looking for excuses for their gameplay.

We had around 230DP and I think he had 197 AP while I had 200 AP

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