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pay to win Should BDO cash shop items be available for sale to other players for in-game silver?


Should BDO cash shop items be available for sale to other players for in-game silver?   4,297 votes

  1. 1. Should BDO cash shop items be available for sale to other players for in-game silver?

    • No.
      3202
    • Yes.
      515
    • Yes, but decrease the limit of items able to be sold to something reasonable (~3 per month).
      580

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Posted

Up until now I've been inviting friends to the game. Now I tell them to avoid it like the plague.

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Jordine update :

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Kakao, react before it's too late, you have few days to step up and change things.

More so than react, I think we need a response. Whether this change goes through or, hopefully, doesn't go through. We need some more communication on this matter. 

We need them to respond with clear and understandable reasons for whatever they ultimately decide. Even if it just amounts to a thinly veiled "We do what we want

We are in need of an update on exactly where they stand, with regards to the future of the game in this region. 

Edited by Whatwhat

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REFUND

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just sad when devs/publishers sell out

 

and especially when they straight lie saying its what the community wants

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we will all leave and leave you P2W babies to play alone 2gether

Whether I leave or stay, I'm sure your post breaks my heart.

 

Hey , the doors that way=====>

Edited by Arreyanne

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Ugh... feels bad but I'm temporarily quitting until next wednesday. Doesn't feel worth it putting more time into grinding and what not if this turns out to be the end. Their edit on the announcement post leaves no doubt for me that they really don't give a shit and we'll receive all the P2W from the other clients no matter what.

Changing it from...

As we have stressed in the past, your feedback is paramount to us, and that is still true.

We encourage you to share your thoughts on this change as Pearl Abyss has requested.

However, we ask that you do so in a non-abusive but constructive manner.

We will continue to communicate on your behalf, and thank you in advance for your efforts.

to...

We are open to the community’s feedback and we encourage you to share your thoughts and concerns in a constructive manner on this change.

Yeah no thanks. 

Quite sure this is @CM_Aethon's and @PM_Jouska's way to say: Screw you guys :D The devs and money comes before you guys. That or something like "We won't tell them how you feel. Your feedback matters on stuff we are unsure about. Not stuff the devs have told us to implement". Quite sad tbh :/ 

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Alustin :

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Magnificent Schadenfreude. I love these topics.

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Bump

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even if the voting here is only taken as a fraction of the active population the message is clear

1 in 10 want this to happen, 2 in 10 want this to happen but to be severely restricted in limits

7 out of 10 players DO NOT want this change to happen

 

Edited by Mrlinderman

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if u guys also has notice they removed clothes and pets and change it to:

 

""  it has been decided that the Value Pack as well as other Pearl Shop Items will be made available via the Market Place over the next series of updates. "

for the hope we don't notice the pearl shop items. x)

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we will all leave and leave you P2W babies to play alone 2gether

Is that a promise?

if u guys also has notice they removed clothes and pets and change it to:

 

""  it has been decided that the Value Pack as well as other Pearl Shop Items will be made available via the Market Place over the next series of updates. "

for the hope we don't notice the pearl shop items. x)

Does that mean I can finally get my perfect horse after 5 months of breeding rigged RNG potatoes in game without paying real cash? I am overjoyed. No more P2W horsies!

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I love how they made the game B2P so they wouldn't have to be P2W, then they turn around and make it p2w anyways. I'll be refunding if it happens.

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Even though a lot of guilds haven't changed their icon yet on NA Edan. We Are with you in this and disagree with this crap 100%. Why ruin a game that everyone here has worked so hard for? I just don't get it... If they decide to do this... well gg folks it was a good run i guess...

 

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RIP
BDO
2016-2016

Edited by Lemures

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Cash shop items shoulden't be able to sell at marketboard for good reason. "swtor"  

they should be bound as they are. I like value pack ok its good enought, But costume and shit no!

If korea does this let them...

But keep NA/EU servers alone with that shit.

We welcome new contents  and new costumes ofc!

 

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I would gladly pay a monthly subscription fee to keep cash shop items out of game. Much better for the game economy to simply make everyone pay a sub fee equally. Then Daum makes their money and it keeps people from spending thousands of real life money to essentially buy silver in game. 

You are paying a monthly fee for the value pack of 16 Euro per month. AND you have the cash shop items in the game. So you don't need to decide, isn't that nice?

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I was enjoying the game, but this announcement disapointed me so much...

What about their promise to keep a different economic strategy on our servers? (I.E: no P2W)

Did they forget it, or do they consider that to not be P2W? (while it obviously is)

http://theinvestor.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20160720001024

I guess we're just part of the cash cow...

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No!

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Go to PA's website click next and translate the jpg, and you know why they want to milk everyone. 

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+1 BUMP

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This is so sad. This game had potential. Real potential. Wether you like it or not, P2W is going to push away a big portion of the playerbase, something noone should ever wish for in an MMO. It's not too late to turn around, but for every hour that passes by I see people madly enhancing their gear, ragequitting, basically leaving us with a lower population and ultimately a shell of what this came could have been. 

Unless this last P2W decision gets turned, it will definitely be the last Korean MMO I ever play. And I will for the first time ever attempt a refund for a game I've bought. 

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More so than react, I think we need a response. Whether this change goes through or, hopefully, doesn't go through. We need some more communication on this matter. 

We need them to respond with clear and understandable reasons for whatever they ultimately decide. Even if it just amounts to a thinly veiled "We do what we want

We are in need of an update on exactly where they stand, with regards to the future of the game in this region. 

It's cool that they always give us weird updates / announcements on like Thursday and then don't give a shit about anything until at least next week. Or don't even respond to the feedback at all. They have never given a shit, they still don't and I don't see them doing that in the future either.

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Just out of curiousity, is anyone able to cite where Daum said this would not be pay to win?

 

Edit:

Nevermind, I see it here - http://forum.blackdesertonline.com/index.php?/topic/8038-pm-diary-22-cash-shop-and-more/

  • If we decide to enable selling Cash Shop Items at a later stage, there will be control mechanisms that will prevent players from heavily profiting and gaining an advantage by repetitively selling Cash Items on the marketplace

If this happens:

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Clearly we were lied to (by use of math) here. Grinding 12hrs a day at sausins = 50-70mil in silver and market sell items. If you are able to make 100mil x 5sells a week, that is ((500mil a week) vs (70mil x 7 = 490mil a week at best))

 

Edited by Vardahoth

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