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If you think you will be able to just pay to win, you're wong

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For people that are excited about this change- don't be.  You will not be competitive even if you pay the max $150 a week.

That is because while there will be a cap on how much you can pay to win, there is no cap on how much you can play.  That means the only way to be competitive after this change is to pay $150 a week AND grind 24/7.

The only people that will benefit from this change are people with both tons of money AND tons of free time.  One of the other will not be enough because of the half-assed implementation of this new p2w system.

Not only that, but the game is going to be a ghost-town until it goes f2p, and it will be full of godsellers and spam.  Once it goes f2p the community will be shit and there will be even more goldsellers and spam.

tl;dr: If you're excited about this change because you have a fat wallet and no free time, think again.  The game is going to be ruined AND you will still not be competitive even if you spend $150 a week.

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For people that are excited about this change- don't be.  You will not be competitive even if you pay the max $150 a week.

That is because while there will be a cap on how much you can pay to win, there is no cap on how much you can play.  That means the only way to be competitive after this change is to pay $150 a week AND grind 24/7.

The only people that will benefit from this change are people with both tons of money AND tons of free time.  One of the other will not be enough because of the half-assed implementation of this new p2w system.

Not only that, but the game is going to be a ghost-town until it goes f2p, and it will be full of godsellers and spam.  Once it goes f2p the community will be shit and there will be even more goldsellers and spam.

tl;dr: If you're excited about this change because you have a fat wallet and no free time, think again.  The game is going to be ruined AND you will still not be competitive even if you spend $150 a week.

If you cant P2W, why are you throwing a fit with your avatar and stuff?

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If you cant P2W, why are you throwing a fit with your avatar and stuff?

If you had a life why would you play smart on internet ?

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What's to stop people from buying 5 costumes a week, and possibly after 2 weeks preorder a piece of boss gear for 500m to 1b? A person doing a normal grind session everyday won't be able to make that kind of money in 2 weeks.

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If you had a life why would you play smart on internet ?

If I had a life I wouldn't.

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If you cant P2W, why are you throwing a fit with your avatar and stuff?

This new system is a new kind of horrible p2w that hasn't been seen before.  It's pay AND play 24/7 to win.  You can't do just one or the other because of the cap on sales.

I'm against p2w, but at least it benefited some people.  This new kind of system is going to benefit very few people, only those willing to spend $150 a week AND grind hours a day (that's a very low percentage of players).  Everyone else, both those that just pay or those that just play, will be eaten alive by that very small percentage.

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If you cant P2W, why are you throwing a fit with your avatar and stuff?

Win! =p

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This new system is a new kind of horrible p2w that hasn't been seen before.  It's pay AND play 24/7 to win.  You can't do just one or the other because of the cap on sales.

I'm against p2w, but at least it benefited some people.  This new kind of system is going to benefit very few people, only those willing to spend $150 a week AND grind hours a day (that's a very low percentage of players).

That doesn't make sense.

It's either P2W or it isn't.

You can't rally against the P2W regime while simultaneously telling wallet warriors that they won't even be able to P2W.

Pick one.

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You can't tell us what to do. P2W crowd doesn't QQ like you. We're so excited for this we're gonna stop fishing and play the game now for real. All those "hardcore no lifers" can now leave.

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If you cant P2W, why are you throwing a fit with your avatar and stuff?

Because dramas and soap operas work on TV.

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Because dramas and soap operas work on TV.

I guess I should stop standing in the way of progress, then.

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Haha butthurt so strong in these threads.

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That doesn't make sense.

It's either P2W or it isn't.

You can't rally against the P2W regime while simultaneously telling wallet warriors that they won't even be able to P2W.

Pick one.

Well, I'm sorry you need things to be black and white to understand them.  If you'd like to supply an avatar that represents "No Pay AND Play to Win", I'd gladly use it, but that's kind of hard to encapsulate.  

But I don't mind the game being play to win.  All the longest-lasting, best and most successful MMOs have always rewarded time and effort.

You can't tell us what to do. P2W crowd doesn't QQ like you. We're so excited for this we're gonna stop fishing and play the game now for real. All those "hardcore no lifers" can now leave.

I'm not telling you what to do... I'm trying to enlighten you past beyond your apparently very short-sighted vision.

I repeat: you will not be competitive just by paying.  If you think so, you're being naive.  

If you plan on paying $150 a week and playing nonstop- enjoy the game, it's going to be your oyster.  For all 100 of you left playing.

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I'm not telling you what to do... I'm trying to enlighten you past beyond your apparently very short-sighted vision.

I repeat: you will not be competitive just by paying.  If you think so, you're being naive.  

If you plan on paying $150 a week and playing nonstop- enjoy the game, it's going to be your oyster.  For all 100 of you left playing.

There's nothing competitive in this game LOL. This isn't Blade & Soul PvP. $$$ === silvers easily now === gears.

Gear = win, no skill required. Pick an OP class for awakening and go p2w.

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There's nothing competitive in this game LOL. This isn't Blade & Soul PvP. $$$ === silvers easily now === gears.

Gear = win, no skill required. Pick an OP class for awakening and go p2w.

Huh?  I wasn't suggesting that you'd be able to buy skill...

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For people that are excited about this change- don't be.  You will not be competitive even if you pay the max $150 a week.

That is because while there will be a cap on how much you can pay to win, there is no cap on how much you can play.  That means the only way to be competitive after this change is to pay $150 a week AND grind 24/7.

The only people that will benefit from this change are people with both tons of money AND tons of free time.  One of the other will not be enough because of the half-assed implementation of this new p2w system.

Not only that, but the game is going to be a ghost-town until it goes f2p, and it will be full of godsellers and spam.  Once it goes f2p the community will be shit and there will be even more goldsellers and spam.

tl;dr: If you're excited about this change because you have a fat wallet and no free time, think again.  The game is going to be ruined AND you will still not be competitive even if you spend $150 a week.

The sh*t has to be for sale on the AH for it to matter!  Silver is frigging easy to make, making boss drops etc be available on the AH is not.

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NO P2W

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The sh*t has to be for sale on the AH for it to matter!  Silver is frigging easy to make, making boss drops etc be available on the AH is not.

Most silver is spent on updgrading equipment, not the base items themselves.  You play this game, right?

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Most silver is spent on updgrading equipment, not the base items themselves.  You play this game, right?

You obviously don't get it.  What do you spend money on besides memory frags and armor to repair?  All stuff that currently gets sold out consistently.  I guess you could buy armor and weapon stones but the market is dropping on them so fast with the event going on it won't even matter.  And sure you can buy all the mats in the world to upgrade but without the drops it won't matter.  If you can't buy the actual kzarkas and boss drops and rare drops like ogre rings etc it wont matter how much silver you have.  I've burned through over a billion silver worth of mats the last two months upgrading, do I care if somebody wants to spend $1000 to do the same thing?  It wont get him very far besides upgrading the same stuff he already has, or if he wants to he could spend 100 hours grinding sausans.  

 

Why do I care if someone would rather work 50 hours at their job over 100 hours at sausans?  Paying wont get him experience, paying wont get him boss drops, paying wont even make more resources be sale.  I am sitting on 200m right now with nothing to spend it on, why would I spend $150 a week more to make more silver I cant spend on anything I want?  I really dont care if someone makes more silver in game than me because they either a. grind more or b. spend more and you shouldnt either.  Someone will always put in more than you.  What you should be really upset about is RNG in this game.  It cost me ~400m in mats to level my bhegs glove to duo another person in my guild got his gloves to tri on 150m, why should he get a 250m advantage just because his rng is better?

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That doesn't make sense.

It's either P2W or it isn't.

You can't rally against the P2W regime while simultaneously telling wallet warriors that they won't even be able to P2W.

Pick one.

Then the game was p2w without adding being able to sell costumes. Weight increase and maids will increase chance of winning node wars

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Bring the P2W!!!

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Then the game was p2w without adding being able to sell costumes. Weight increase and maids will increase chance of winning node wars

That has zero to do with the topic at hand.

Please reprimand yourself as much as you feel appropriate.

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That has zero to do with the topic at hand.

Please reprimand yourself as much as you feel appropriate.

"GIT GUD"

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"GIT GUD"

I'm afraid I can't do that.

Trash for life, yo.

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