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compilation [WIP] Compilation of community responses against p2w for Daum/Kakao to send to PA


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gud, keep updating that shit, we needed an all in one thread.

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Good idea.

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The sad truth is despite claiming our feedback is "paramount" it'll just come anyway and zero f**ks will be given.

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They will do it anyway.

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The sad truth is despite claiming our feedback is "paramount" it'll just come anyway and zero f**ks will be given.

Deep down I know this as well but this is all we can really do, and compiling information for Daum/Kakao just makes it that much easier for them if they decide to present this to them

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Deep down I know this as well but this is all we can really do, and compiling information for Daum/Kakao just makes it that much easier for them if they decide to present this to them

I'm pretty sure they will indeed be presented with this information.

Sadly their response will almost certainly be (just imagine them being Korean): 

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I'm pretty sure they will indeed be presented with this information.
Sadly their response will almost certainly be (just imagine them being Korean): 

Laughing-Men-In-Suits.jpg

lol. Fortunately and unfortunately, no one knows if they will go through with this, judging by their past in giving us their word. Time will tell!

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I've never been proud or happy with legacy guilds, but reading their page they got a little of my respect, as well as all these other guilds and other players uniting to stand against this. I can only hope everyone sticks to their guns if they do release anyways.

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Money speaks so spend some more and Daum will respond here.

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Let them sell cash shop items on the marketplace.

Make PvP Skill2Win.

 

Options:

1) Do what WoW is doing with PvP. Normalize stats for PvP encounters, much like the red battlefield. 

2) Remove the ridiculous RNG in Enhancement so that players can EASILY all attain the best gear.

3) Make AP/DP scaling in Enhancement have a marginal, almost worthless effect. 

 

What this would do:

1) Remove the mindless, endless mob grindfest from PvP's lives forever

2) Ensure the game could never go P2W

3) Open the doors for more world PvP content, arena rankings, etc to be taking up player's time (Instead of the aforementioned boring mob grindfest)

4) Give the company shit tons of money as silver earned in game could go towards players buying cash shop items from other players (instead of that silver going down into the RNG void of nothingness) 

5)Make the game more accessible to new players, who often feel like they cannot catch up to the amount of work/time it takes to gear up before engaging PvP content.

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Let them sell cash shop items on the marketplace.

Make PvP Skill2Win.

 

Options:

1) Do what WoW is doing with PvP. Normalize stats for PvP encounters, much like the red battlefield. 

2) Remove the ridiculous RNG in Enhancement so that players can EASILY all attain the best gear.

3) Make AP/DP scaling in Enhancement have a marginal, almost worthless effect. 

 

What this would do:

1) Remove the mindless, endless mob grindfest from PvP's lives forever

2) Ensure the game could never go P2W

3) Open the doors for more world PvP content, arena rankings, etc to be taking up player's time (Instead of the aforementioned boring mob grindfest)

4) Give the company shit tons of money as silver earned in game could go towards players buying cash shop items from other players (instead of that silver going down into the RNG void of nothingness) 

 

While you are 100% free to offer suggestions and have these opinions, please take these suggestions back to the original thread from Jouska at:
http://forum.blackdesertonline.com/index.php?/topic/106513-updated-in-game-accessibility-to-pearl-shop-items/&page=1

Feel free to make a thread similar of this sort, I would like to keep this thread on topic which is against these changes and the responses from the community against this ~
I'd like to have the comments here be helpful to the OP, such as adding community responses that I may have missed!

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this post is awesome 

say no to pay 2 win

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Update: Added a "Suggestions" section, please let me know if I forgot any common / major suggestions that have potential or a good alternative! Included sources if possible

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For anyone who played Mass Effect 3, do you remember the community unrest that occurred because of the ending?  Do you remember what BioWare did in response?  Let's hope this works as well. 

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Thank you for doing this!

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Good compilation but you really do need to put in the posts from both sides unless you state that this is from those who disagree.

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I'm pretty sure they will indeed be presented with this information.
Sadly their response will almost certainly be (just imagine them being Korean): 


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Here it is with "koreans" :)

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(who are against this), 

Quick question, why aren't you including the people who support this? Is it because it tarnishes your statement that "this is what the community wants" standpoint? 

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Good compilation but you really do need to put in the posts from both sides unless you state that this is from those who disagree.

I appreciate the concern and it went across my mind, even though I thought it was somewhat clear, I will make it more clear as you see see the changes highlighted below (I cut out some of the post to make this comment shorter):

If you are ever planning on presenting to Pearl Abyss how strongly and passionate EU & NA are against this idea, here is a compiled list of the community's responses (who are against this), organized in one thread for your convenience. 

I'd like to stress to you, Daum/Kakao, that the point of this thread is to lay down all at once how the community against this feels and how important this is to us. Unfortunately based on this thread, http://forum.blackdesertonline.com/index.php?/topic/106957-do-you-believe-our-feedback-matters/, a lot of players believe this won't make a difference and that our opinions don't matter. Let this prove them wrong!

If I missed anything else that we have done, please let me know and I will add it to this, I will continue to update as I find more links.

***Please keep this thread constructive, and reply with images/links/videos of any additional information that you have if you are against this, and I will add to this post. This thread is meant to compile information for Daum/Kakao, please take feedback towards their decisions back to the original thread at: http://forum.blackdesertonline.com/index.php?/topic/106513-updated-in-game-accessibility-to-pearl-shop-items/&page=1

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Player, Guild, and Community responses to these against possible upcoming changes:

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Frequent Suggestions from the Community who is against this (WIP)

Thank you for reading, and I wish you best of luck if you decide to present this to Pearl Abyss.

~ Jaluvshuskies

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They will not back down, the only solution I see for this is for PA to make ingame prices as ridiculous as IRL, something like 20M for a costume, or some obviously low price which makes it not worth it for most BUT the most desperate and rich.

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These greedy -----s don't care. As l9ng as they make some amount of money, they're fine.

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Quick question, why aren't you including the people who support this? Is it because it tarnishes your statement that "this is what the community wants" standpoint? 

I feel as though it would be better to keep those as two separate threads. Feel free to make an opposing thread :) 

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Thanks for doing this :D

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