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Rest in piece legit #1 wealth ranking. I worked so hard for you. I just don't know if I can handle seeing you with someone else though.

Daum, why are you tearing us apart? Is it my long hair? The broken down horse I ride? How can you let the wealth rank just be pimped out like that? She deserves respect.

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Rip bro

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apparently you have done enough P2W already

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Rest in piece legit #1 wealth ranking. I worked so hard for you. I just know if I can handle seeing you with someone else though.

Daum, why are you tearing us apart? Is it my long hair? The broken down horse I ride? How can you let the wealth rank just be pimped out like that? She deserves respect.

If you don't want any form of P2W, please play Tetris.... ;)

If you look about one of the big MMO, honestly look what they have in their MMO. It is this...  (I have paste this from a other post)

  • it's ok when they make people pay a monthly subscription for more than a year without any new content 
  • it's ok when they make people pay for lackluster content -- they're not even trying and still charging $60+ for their game
  • it's ok when they have a cash shop on-top of a box price and monthly subscription
  • it's ok when they allow you to buy exclusive mounts and pets (while subscribers get re-skinned mounts over and over)
  • it's ok when they charge for server transfers, class change, appearance change, faction change, name change, race change, etc.
  • it's ok when they charge to give you a lvl 100 character
  • it's ok when they sell you gold

Yes, A big MMO there you have B2P (Buy to play), F2P (monthly fee to play) and P2W (buy gold ingame for real money). 

Do you know what MMO it is?  

Yes, World of Warcraft. The biggest MMO in the market, but even one of the most P2W games. Many here in BDO wrote they wan't go back to WoW. But for what? Leave a MMO with little P2W and join the king of the P2W game! Seriously, what have people in their brain?

I don't like P2W, then I have leave WoW. I come to continue enjoy BDO :)

 

 

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There is a HUGE difference in between mmo with restrain vertical gear progression such as WoW or FFXIV, and gear progression such as BDO. Because in the former case nobody cares, everyone will have the same gear in the end very quickly to tackle pve content. It's a different story when it comes to open world pvp and territory war.

You cannot compare those to each other

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If you want any form of P2W, please play Tetris.... ;)

If you look about one of the big MMO, honestly look what they have in their MMO. It is this...  (I have paste this from a other post)

  • it's ok when they make people pay a monthly subscription for more than a year without any new content 
  • it's ok when they make people pay for lackluster content -- they're not even trying and still charging $60+ for their game
  • it's ok when they have a cash shop on-top of a box price and monthly subscription
  • it's ok when they allow you to buy exclusive mounts and pets (while subscribers get re-skinned mounts over and over)
  • it's ok when they charge for server transfers, class change, appearance change, faction change, name change, race change, etc.
  • it's ok when they charge to give you a lvl 100 character
  • it's ok when they sell you gold

Yes, A big MMO there you have B2P (Buy to play), F2P (monthly fee to play) and P2W (buy gold ingame for real money). 

Do you know what MMO it is?  

Yes, World of Warcraft. The biggest MMO in the market, but even one of the most P2W games. Many here in BDO wrote they wan't go back to WoW. But for what? Leave a MMO with little P2W and join the king of the P2W game! Seriously, what have people in their brain?

I don't like P2W, then I have leave WoW. I come to continue enjoy BDO :)

 

 

Boosting a char to lvl100 is P2W? No it is not because it doesn't affect the power of your char nor it gives you any advantage on the field. It's a totally different game and it's not lvl or gear based game.
You may use irl money to buy ingame gold yes, that exists for a year or what, in a 12years game.

In our case we're talking about a 6months old game in our version who started as B2P in order to not to be P2W.

1) You can't buy BiS gear for PvE content,you actually have to do raids cuz there are lots of versions of gear you can't obtain from AH.Even you buy some parts from AH, most of them are gonna get replaced through raiding soon enough and only affects your performance for mobs and bosses in PvE.

2) It's a totally different content and does not give you an advantage towards other players in PvP since PvP gear is ONLY obtainable through honor and conquest, therefore you can't buy the gear from the AH.

3) Race change > pay for convenience

4) Name change > pay for convenience

5) Mounts and pets > pay for convenience (they do not give any advantage, nor any kind of mount skill since they are only cosmetic compared to BDO)

6) Appearance change > pay for convenience

7) Faction change > pay for convenience

Anyone who actually calls WoW a P2W game is so clueless about the game in general, it's just hillarious.
 


You boy have no clue about what you talking about, i could write a wall of text but there is really no reason to make your little brain understand.
 

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Wow.. this thread doesn't feel hijacked at all lmao

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Yeah, I'm just mourning and end of an era. They should get rid of the wealth ranking, it won't be earned anymore.

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apparently you have done enough P2W already

Had nothing to do with it, just effort.

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Had nothing to do with it, just effort.

Working in real life takes effort too, you should try it.

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Working in real life takes effort too, you should try it.

Ye obviously cuz we don't know,  like only you and the rest 10 idiots that going around in this forum defending the P2W change in BDO are only working and making money. The rest of us milking our parents right? Lmao dude, for god sake this joke about telling ppl to get a job is so old and seriously it doesn't make you look cool or smart in any way.

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Working in real life takes effort too, you should try it.

never mind, not worth it.

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Working in real life takes effort too, you should try it.

Stop saying this stupid thing.. ITS A FUKIN GAME. NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR JOB IDIOT. ITS A GAME. We dont give a ----- about your job... wake up from that shit thing you keep saying around the forum. The whole fukin world is working.. get over it. 

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Rest in piece legit #1 wealth ranking. I worked so hard for you. I just don't know if I can handle seeing you with someone else though.

Daum, why are you tearing us apart? Is it my long hair? The broken down horse I ride? How can you let the wealth rank just be pimped out like that? She deserves respect.

Do you honestly think that this change to the Pearl Store items is going to significantly change the wealth in the game?  I would argue that this change would not impact it all. 

People selling these items in the marketplace has no ability, in and of itself, to generate wealth, just re-distribute it if anything.  And if people like you with high wealth don't give it away the wealth rankings have next to no ability to change as a direct result of these changes.  It may cause more people to want to work towards obtaining more wealth to obtain one of these items, but that wealth is still being generated in a legit fashion. 

If anything the overall wealth on the servers could drop as those people that sell the Pearl Store items spend it on blowing up weapons and gear.  And those on the top of the wealth rankings will still have earned it as you put it "legit".

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Ye obviously cuz we don't know,  like only you and the rest 10 idiots that going around in this forum defending the P2W change in BDO are only working and making money. The rest of us milking our parents right? Lmao dude, for god sake this joke about telling ppl to get a job is so old and seriously it doesn't make you look cool or smart in any way.

We have Kakao on our side. That counts for all of you plebs. 

It's not a joke. It's a real life advice. You should take it.

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If you don't want any form of P2W, please play Tetris.... ;)

If you look about one of the big MMO, honestly look what they have in their MMO. It is this...  (I have paste this from a other post)

  • it's ok when they make people pay a monthly subscription for more than a year without any new content 
  • it's ok when they make people pay for lackluster content -- they're not even trying and still charging $60+ for their game
  • it's ok when they have a cash shop on-top of a box price and monthly subscription
  • it's ok when they allow you to buy exclusive mounts and pets (while subscribers get re-skinned mounts over and over)
  • it's ok when they charge for server transfers, class change, appearance change, faction change, name change, race change, etc.
  • it's ok when they charge to give you a lvl 100 character
  • it's ok when they sell you gold

Yes, A big MMO there you have B2P (Buy to play), F2P (monthly fee to play) and P2W (buy gold ingame for real money). 

Do you know what MMO it is?  

Yes, World of Warcraft. The biggest MMO in the market, but even one of the most P2W games. Many here in BDO wrote they wan't go back to WoW. But for what? Leave a MMO with little P2W and join the king of the P2W game! Seriously, what have people in their brain?

I don't like P2W, then I have leave WoW. I come to continue enjoy BDO :)

 

 

There is another MMO besides WoW which is FFXIV.

 

But since it is the least p2w of all MMO you dont want to name it huhuhuhuhuhuhuh Kappa Keepo Kappo

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Rest in piece legit #1 wealth ranking. I worked so hard for you. I just don't know if I can handle seeing you with someone else though.

Daum, why are you tearing us apart? Is it my long hair? The broken down horse I ride? How can you let the wealth rank just be pimped out like that? She deserves respect.

/hug bro im sorry for all of us :( 

this experience just show us how important its "the valor of trust".

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I retired very early, so uh.... yeah.

You have to work first in order to retire. 

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Do you honestly think that this change to the Pearl Store items is going to significantly change the wealth in the game?  I would argue that this change would not impact it all. 

People selling these items in the marketplace has no ability, in and of itself, to generate wealth, just re-distribute it if anything.  And if people like you with high wealth don't give it away the wealth rankings have next to no ability to change as a direct result of these changes.  It may cause more people to want to work towards obtaining more wealth to obtain one of these items, but that wealth is still being generated in a legit fashion. 

If anything the overall wealth on the servers could drop as those people that sell the Pearl Store items spend it on blowing up weapons and gear.  And those on the top of the wealth rankings will still have earned it as you put it "legit".

Well yes. If you buy a costume and sell for silver, you could do this enough to surpass me. Me and many others used our knowledge of game mechanics to gain the silver, whether it was energy management, smart trading or crafting. Many avenues are gated by resources. The change will allow people to gain very valuable items by means outside the game.

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Rest in piece legit #1 wealth ranking. I worked so hard for you. I just don't know if I can handle seeing you with someone else though.

Daum, why are you tearing us apart? Is it my long hair? The broken down horse I ride? How can you let the wealth rank just be pimped out like that? She deserves respect.

I am neutral about this but I have a legitimate question for you; you probably have couple of billion credits, best gear in-game and some other stuff I dont even know and from now on you will be able to buy anything you want from "Cash Shop" meaning, you don't have to spend any real life money for the game you love whatsoever; is this really so bad??

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Stop saying this stupid thing.. ITS A FUKIN GAME. NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR JOB IDIOT. ITS A GAME. We dont give a ----- about your job... wake up from that shit thing you keep saying around the forum. The whole fukin world is working.. get over it. 

 

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Great answer. Your arguments are.... great. NOT

As i expected to be honest. Useless spammer. Do us all a favor and gtfo of the forum. Thx.

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Guys you have to think always positive, game is going to be pay 2 win , to me it means i dont want to play this game anymore and i have more time for other games, for gym and for other hobbies, to me it is very clear actually. And now im sure i have to avoid asian games whatever they promise :)

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