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Costumes will be 60-80mil soon...

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Keeping the prices that low would limit the dev's income because  not many people will pay with real $ instead of silver if the prices are that low and can be acquired with 2 hours of grinding .. If they want to make maximum amount of  cash , they will have to rise the prices so the F2P player cannot grind enough money to buy items off the cash shop  with silver and the P2P  cash whale will be even more tempted to spend $$$ If he knows at 100% that he will have an advantage  over other people. Currently there is no reason to P2W with these prices , therefore not much money to daum/kakao. 

This is just the begining, the real P2W will come in the following month. 

wow OP you are so right thanks for opening my eyes

so you are quitting right?

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bullshit the item limit is already saturated, that's why there's a slowdown in pearl shop items being listed.

 

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Maybe those genius forget the 5 items/week limit.

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Keeping the prices that low would limit the dev's income because  not many people will pay with real $ instead of silver if the prices are that low and can be acquired with 2 hours of grinding .. If they want to make maximum amount of  cash , they will have to rise the prices so the F2P player cannot grind enough money to buy items off the cash shop  with silver and the P2P  cash whale will be even more tempted to spend $$$ If he knows at 100% that he will have an advantage  over other people. Currently there is no reason to P2W with these prices , therefore not much money to daum/kakao. 

This is just the begining, the real P2W will come in the following month. 

Ekhm, you know that 20 mil prices are in JP for over a year? No need to increase prices when people still buy pearls and sell costumes. And people do that. Every 30 minutes i see few pop ups. Don't spread bullshit, some people are fine with those prices.

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so your going to spend $500 a month on a game? im dying of laughter right now!

i dont see what the problem as its the same when others spend redick amounts of money on clothing, acc, etc. but yet no one bats an eyelash at that. but spend money on a game and people lose their minds for some reason? last i checked its a hobby which like most cost a good shiny penny. some have the income for it so good on them.

laughing at his is like me laughing at a person who bought an expensive car. in reality its not laughing but usually jealousy.

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Donald Trump will be President of the United States of America soon, Recip Tayip Erdogan will become Leader of the European Nation, Kim Yong Un will receive the Nobel Prize for Humanity. All that will happen soon~

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B2P looks like a F2P Game for sure

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I've already sold 5 costumes at the 20mil silver mark, and plan to do so every week for the foreseeable future. Even though I'm already level 58 with 200 AP, I have more disposable income than free time to grind, so an extra 100mil/week for $125 seems very reasonable to me. So if the prices go up, great, I'll make even more silver, but if not I'll continue to sell regardless.

And there are LOTS of other players just like me.

Tell me on which server you are and sell me those costumes! TAKE MY MONEY

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throwing numbers around just gives a clue about what age the guy behind the post has. for underaged people money just seem to "come from somewhere" near endless.

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the statistic dates from 2013 a year in which the canadian dollar and us dollar were nearly on par.

and if you didnt figured out yourself the "highest 20%" usually dont play mmo´s.

yes, the upper 20% are busy conspiring how to screw over the lower 20% in all of their free time, impossible that they would have the same hobbies as us, normal people.

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No it wont you tinfoil hat wearing theorist. 

The market will calm down and nobody will buy the stuff, and if nobody is buying at less than 20m, what makes you think people will buy at 20m+? thats stupid.

 

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Well, they'd never admit to wanting more income. I'm not sure if anybody in their mind thinks that the prices will stay this way because the supply is too low. There isn't enough incentive to sell outfits. At max price, you're only getting about 16m for an outfit assuming that you have the value pack and reduce MP taxes. That's nearly $2 for 1m. That's like 15 minutes of grinding mobs. Some people may find that appealing since they work overtime and such, but I, personally, don't think that spending $2 is worth mitigating 10-15 min worth of work. I personally think that the costumes should be 40-50m ea. With Value Pack MP reduction, you'd get a revenue of about 34-42.5m. So, that's less than $1 per 1m. A lot more people would feel more incentive to purchase costumes to sell on MP meaning that we all can enjoy that "accessibility" to the cash shop like PA wants.

EDIT: I've been informed that MP taxes don't affect cash shop items. Regardless, I still don't agree with 20m for $30 as a reasonable equivalency. Not only that, but if the prices are too low, then accessibility is greater meaning that there will always be a shortage in supply. Aside from creating more incentive to the providers of the supply, raising prices will curb-stomp demand down allowing a little more breathing room for items to flow.

its almost 20 mill for 22 bucks actually. so 110 dollars is 99mill. Pretty cheap for people who make decent money. 

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lets say he did that for 6 months.. thats $3000.. i know id rather invest that money.

Shit son are you telling him that he must conform to your opinion? His income might be in hundreds of thousands so just because you're a poor ----- doesn't mean he isn't or maybe he has a relatively high income but hardly any outgoings and his form of entertainment is gaming like a lot of peoples.

Poor people make me sick, thinking their opinions should be followed, bloody entitlement strikes again

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I'm going to do the same thing as OP and make assumptions based on NO evidence.

Cash shop costumes will drop in price to a maximum of 1,000 silver per item!

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Currently there is no reason to P2W with these prices

... 

 

Silver generated with 5 sales equal to:

  • 21h grind a week if u make 4m/h
  • 14h grind a week if u make 6m/h
  • 10,5h grind a week if u make 8m/h
  • 8,5h grind a week if u make 10m/

 

Are u serious?

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There will always be players with enough excess disposable income that they won't care if the $->silver ratio is bad. There are players who have dropped hundreds of dollars on RNG dyes, which gave them absolutely nothing back. These kinds of players will continue to post pets, Value Packs, costumes etc.

However, there will also always be players who are excessively self-centered and they will buy up more than they need, or items they have no intention of using. They'll sit on it to try to create an artificial shortage to force the price to go up, then resell for profit.

Back in AA there was a player on my server who would hand out a bunch of APEX dirt cheap (or even for free) every day. This was a boon to players who didn't have the money to buy Patron status - at least until players began taking all the guy's APEX and selling it for profit, rather than letting it be fairly distributed.

There is one thing that is always true: if there is the potential for something to be exploited, it will be exploited.

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so your going to spend $500 a month on a game? im dying of laughter right now!

yea me too. The suckers are real in this game.

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broken clock right twice a day

if costumes eventually are sellable for 60-80M in the future then so be it, but they are currently 20M and we don't know the timeframe for the price increase just like we didn't know that the max on costumes would be 20M until after the patch as released

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throwing numbers around just gives a clue about what age the guy behind the post has. for underaged people money just seem to "come from somewhere" near endless.

WeathTest1.png

the statistic dates from 2013 a year in which the canadian dollar and us dollar were nearly on par.

and if you didnt figured out yourself the "highest 20%" usually dont play mmo´s.

 

there's no way that's accurate, which part of Canada? the first nation communities?

a parking space in downtown cost 75k and not in runescape gold.

 

this is source for few years ago Toronto https://www.thestar.com/life/homes/2013/04/25/toronto_condo_parking_spaces_can_fetch_60k.html

a locker cost like 7k. In Vancouver it's not too different here I saw a parking space for sale for 75k.

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I love these toilet seat "theory crafters".

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Keeping the prices that low would limit the dev's income because  not many people will pay with real $ instead of silver if the prices are that low and can be acquired with 2 hours of grinding .. If they want to make maximum amount of  cash , they will have to rise the prices so the F2P player cannot grind enough money to buy items off the cash shop  with silver and the P2P  cash whale will be even more tempted to spend $$$ If he knows at 100% that he will have an advantage  over other people. Currently there is no reason to P2W with these prices , therefore not much money to daum/kakao. 

This is just the begining, the real P2W will come in the following month. 

 You fail to comprehend how much disposable income whales have. It's going to be longer than a month. It may even be a year before we see the cap increase. Only time will tell. But I'd bet that they're hesitant to do it so soon. They've already lost a chunk of players, if I were in their shoes I wouldn't want to cause another mass exodus so soon.

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the slowdown is people realising 20 mil isnt worth $30 irl money

people are hitting their 5 item cap, which resets tomorrow...

 

keeping the prices low maximizes profits... if the whales achieve their in game goals to fast they will ultimately leave. by limiting the amount of silver and accessibility they prolong that process

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Pearl abyss and kakao games at this point they have broke most of their promises, is really hard for me to trust them. They said that they will monitor the situation to find a suitable balance. That is a generic term that kakao games can use any way they like.

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Pearl abyss and kakao games at this point they have broke most of their promises, is really hard for me to trust them.

I keep seeing people say this but I've been reading the post they make and watching their videos since the start and I've yet to see them go back on anything they said aside from missing a couple dates for when they had intended to launch content so I really don't understand this statement

Anyway speculating that prices will climb is a good way for people hoarding costumes to resell at a later date to lose money cause it may or may not happen at some point and in they event they do get raised the increase may be minimal as it seems people are willing to buy things to sell at the current rate and based on what I've heard thru talking to other players in game, only the I have to play the game in the most efficient way possible cause I have to be the best at this "competitive" game types have the kind of silver to purchase 100 million silver items on a regular basis from the market.  And those are the same people screaming about quitting over it, So what would be the point of upping prices if the people who want the items can't afford to buy them and the people who can afford to buy at inflated rates don't want to play if they happen

Increasing prices seems like a lose/lose situation even if you don't factor in the people willing to sell stuff from the shop for in game silver have to sell more stuff at lower market prices to "pay to win"

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I keep seeing people say this but I've been reading the post they make and watching their videos since the start and I've yet to see them go back on anything they said aside from missing a couple dates for when they had intended to launch content so I really don't understand this statement

Anyway speculating that prices will climb is a good way for people hoarding costumes to resell at a later date to lose money cause it may or may not happen at some point and in they event they do get raised the increase may be minimal as it seems people are willing to buy things to sell at the current rate and based on what I've heard thru talking to other players in game only the I have to play the game in the most efficient way possible cause I have to be the best at this "competitive" game types have the kind of silver to purchase 100 million silver items on a regular basis from the market and those are the same people screaming about quitting over it, So what would be the point of upping prices if the people who want the items can't afford to buy them and the people who can afford to buy at inflated rates don't want to play if they happen

Increasing prices seems like a lose/lose situation even if you don't factor in the people willing to sell stuff from the shop for in game silver have to sell more stuff at lower market prices to "pay to win"
 

Before the game come to the west the community asked for some changes. The 2 major points of those changes where the game not to have the korean p2w cash shop  and be more pvp friendly.The Pearl abyss agreed to made those changes, on the term that the game will be b2p. So now 6 months later we got almost  the same  game version as korea and the only major deference is that we payed for what others got for free.

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