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BDO is a beautiful piece of art that was sleazed up into a casino

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Can we get a government subsidy or something? Imagine if the Louvre was full of slot machines to fund the place so people could continue to view the mona lisa. It would be absurd to sully such a beautiful cultural experience with gambling. 

Yet here we have BDO, perhaps the most beautiful MMO to have ever been created thus far in the short history of MMOs, and it's jam packed behind layers and layers of RNG and questionable cashshop practices just to keep people here indefinitely, spending as much time and money as possible.

And just to reemphasize: I'm not just talkin' about the cash shop, folks. I'm talking about the actual game play. BDO's heavy emphasis on RNG mechanics is basically exploiting whatever degree of a gambling addiction you have. Of course, you don't have to engage in real money gambling if you don't want to. Although that option is available to. Sell some costumes and instantly blow the silver on failed DUO: Witch earrings. Slam pets together till you get the right skills.

But more commonly though, everyone will engage in time gambling. Dump 10 hours into farming and blow that silver on failed DUO: Witch earrings, or DUO Gathering outfit, or Tier 8 Horse, or Ultimating your armor, or promoting your worker to artisan, or one hundred other things. Either way, you're gambling. It's RNG.

BDO doesn't need to resort to these tactics, yet they are inescapable. They are beneath the dignity of this game.

BDO you are a strong beautiful game that don't need no RNG. And I believe in you, even though you might not believe in yourself. 

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Lol

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It's Korea man, it's just what they do. Hell aside from the p2w and remedial way it's managed, Archeage is a hell of a game overall. It's sad but, this is their way of doing MMO's, and I don't see it changing any time soon.

 

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Slowpoke

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gambling is illegal in korea. RNG in their videogames is all they have to satisfy that gambling fix okay

 

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RNG sucks.  Everyone has at least some distaste for it.  No matter the prep you make before committing to something, it may still fail, regardless of your skill level.  That has to feel shitty.  But is this distaste for RNG based on something deeper?  Is it because we hate how real life can be so random and we don't want to see that in the game's we use to take a break from real life?

Think of the guy who walked across the road at the same time the brakes on the truck driving towards him fail.  Poor luck.

The bird that hops past the bush that the neighbourhood cat is hiding in.  Just not his day.

And of course we can look at just about any illness.  Bad. Luck.

 

RNG keeps us playing, and truly isn't that unfair.  It's the most fair.  Everyone gets screwed over eventually.

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so u see BDO actually not only is the most beautiful game around but also the best real life simulator around

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Doesn't really matter how people dress up the wording to defend or prosecute a company for its actions. We love the game, the company does too. But after everything is said and done, the game has to generate revenue in order for it to continue. That's the bottom line.

And its not the upkeep really that costs the most, although "current bills" is a factor.It's the initial capital investment that was loaned the subsidiary that has to be repaid, and that includes interest.

Even with cookie cutter titles, people fail to realize just how much money is loaned to the subsidiary and the project before you even get wind of the title. On top of that the investors want to see a return on their investment. Then add in operating costs and upkeep.

Yes we play for free, in this case after purchase, but the services provided to us cost a lot of money, and that moneydoesn't magically appear.

Games are created to make money, when they don't they go under. I've seen hundreds of titles scrapped before even making a debut simply because the publisher didn't have a solid plan for its investors on how their investment would be repaid.

 

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had the same thought. they did such a great job with the world building, characters details (up to the point that your outfit changes regarding to the durability). this was than paired with a 08/15 total conventional rng mechanic that could come out of a flash or iphone app, including other brain dead rng elements such as amity game & co. 

its pretty sad. i mean all games resort to rng to some point but here basically everything is build around it. 

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Can we get a government subsidy or something? Imagine if the Louvre was full of slot machines to fund the place so people could continue to view the mona lisa. It would be absurd to sully such a beautiful cultural experience with gambling. 

Yet here we have BDO, perhaps the most beautiful MMO to have ever been created thus far in the short history of MMOs, and it's jam packed behind layers and layers of RNG and questionable cashshop practices just to keep people here indefinitely, spending as much time and money as possible.

And just to reemphasize: I'm not just talkin' about the cash shop, folks. I'm talking about the actual game play. BDO's heavy emphasis on RNG mechanics is basically exploiting whatever degree of a gambling addiction you have. Of course, you don't have to engage in real money gambling if you don't want to. Although that option is available to. Sell some costumes and instantly blow the silver on failed DUO: Witch earrings. Slam pets together till you get the right skills.

But more commonly though, everyone will engage in time gambling. Dump 10 hours into farming and blow that silver on failed DUO: Witch earrings, or DUO Gathering outfit, or Tier 8 Horse, or Ultimating your armor, or promoting your worker to artisan, or one hundred other things. Either way, you're gambling. It's RNG.

BDO doesn't need to resort to these tactics, yet they are inescapable. They are beneath the dignity of this game.

BDO you are a strong beautiful game that don't need no RNG. And I believe in you, even though you might not believe in yourself. 

unfortunately the game doesn't have traditional endgame to carry it outside RNG nature of upgrades. You really just spend alot of time building up a currency mountain to push toward that next stat gain.

 

also you can guarantee ultimate armor.

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I havent had a worker promoted for the past month. All failed.

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Agreed, and from the looks of things, the most optimistic prediction suggests it might never get any better.

 

Such a shame.

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You're like the kind of person that buys a diving suit and then complains about it getting wet. You act as if RNG hasn't been in the game since day one, why did you purchase this game in the first place? :) 

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Personally i'm ok with RNG. It's just a matter of time + mitigation. For example, don't try to PEN something if you don't have a TET backup (which means, time). Unfortunately most recent updates are made to exchange time for money. But hey, ok, whatever.

On the other hand, i'm presonally much more concerned about the state of class balance, and i dearly hope awakenings will soften the issue.

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You're like the kind of person that buys a diving suit and then complains about it getting wet. You act as if RNG hasn't been in the game since day one, why did you purchase this game in the first place? :) 

Honestly, everyone should buy BDO. Starting out in this game is a beautiful unique and wonderful MMO experience starting even with the character creator. I took the bait then they sunk the hook into me with RNG. 

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Honestly, everyone should buy BDO. Starting out in this game is a beautiful unique and wonderful MMO experience starting even with the character creator. I took the bait then they sunk the hook into me with RNG. 

There was no bait, RNG was in the game since it was conceived, it's your own fault for either not researching the game properly or for ignoring the clear signs of RNG. 

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There was no bait, RNG was in the game since it was conceived, it's your own fault for either not researching the game properly or for ignoring the clear signs of RNG. 

This.

Or you can be like me and buy the Conquerors pack because yolo.

Best 100$ I spent. Before and After the changes made.

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There was no bait, RNG was in the game since it was conceived, it's your own fault for either not researching the game properly or for ignoring the clear signs of RNG. 

To say there was no bait is subjective. Everyone starts playing for their own reasons. I wouldn't say the knowledge of the existence of RNG in a game should prevent someone from playing BDO. BDO offers so much more than that. But as I said, the fact they use RNG to keep people here is beneath the dignity of this piece of art. 

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Can we get a government subsidy or something? Imagine if the Louvre was full of slot machines to fund the place so people could continue to view the mona lisa. It would be absurd to sully such a beautiful cultural experience with gambling. 

Yet here we have BDO, perhaps the most beautiful MMO to have ever been created thus far in the short history of MMOs, and it's jam packed behind layers and layers of RNG and questionable cashshop practices just to keep people here indefinitely, spending as much time and money as possible.

And just to reemphasize: I'm not just talkin' about the cash shop, folks. I'm talking about the actual game play. BDO's heavy emphasis on RNG mechanics is basically exploiting whatever degree of a gambling addiction you have. Of course, you don't have to engage in real money gambling if you don't want to. Although that option is available to. Sell some costumes and instantly blow the silver on failed DUO: Witch earrings. Slam pets together till you get the right skills.

But more commonly though, everyone will engage in time gambling. Dump 10 hours into farming and blow that silver on failed DUO: Witch earrings, or DUO Gathering outfit, or Tier 8 Horse, or Ultimating your armor, or promoting your worker to artisan, or one hundred other things. Either way, you're gambling. It's RNG.

BDO doesn't need to resort to these tactics, yet they are inescapable. They are beneath the dignity of this game.

BDO you are a strong beautiful game that don't need no RNG. And I believe in you, even though you might not believe in yourself. 

>funding art

>ever

what a mistake

 

 

 

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Can we get a government subsidy or something? Imagine if the Louvre was full of slot machines to fund the place so people could continue to view the mona lisa. It would be absurd to sully such a beautiful cultural experience with gambling. 

Yet here we have BDO, perhaps the most beautiful MMO to have ever been created thus far in the short history of MMOs, and it's jam packed behind layers and layers of RNG and questionable cashshop practices just to keep people here indefinitely, spending as much time and money as possible.

And just to reemphasize: I'm not just talkin' about the cash shop, folks. I'm talking about the actual game play. BDO's heavy emphasis on RNG mechanics is basically exploiting whatever degree of a gambling addiction you have. Of course, you don't have to engage in real money gambling if you don't want to. Although that option is available to. Sell some costumes and instantly blow the silver on failed DUO: Witch earrings. Slam pets together till you get the right skills.

But more commonly though, everyone will engage in time gambling. Dump 10 hours into farming and blow that silver on failed DUO: Witch earrings, or DUO Gathering outfit, or Tier 8 Horse, or Ultimating your armor, or promoting your worker to artisan, or one hundred other things. Either way, you're gambling. It's RNG.

BDO doesn't need to resort to these tactics, yet they are inescapable. They are beneath the dignity of this game.

BDO you are a strong beautiful game that don't need no RNG. And I believe in you, even though you might not believe in yourself. 

Wow I love this and now that you mention it your right .... the $$$ and greed took over for Daum & PA.

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>funding art

>ever

what a mistake

 

 

 

The series of videos where Ghost gets prank called are some of the best things on the internet. 

But to your point, think of it as R&D funding. You might fail 49/50 experiments but hopefully the 1 successful experiment, or in this case funded art, is for the betterment of culture. 

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The series of videos where Ghost gets prank called are some of the best things on the internet. 
But to your point, think of it as R&D funding. You might fail 49/50 experiments but hopefully the 1 successful experiment, or in this case funded art, is for the betterment of culture. 

ikr? they're funny as -----. But no, BDO is just a turd in the toilet, and I don't want the government to fund it ;[ south korea should though. 

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Things that could easily replace RNG to consume your time in this game:

- variety of armor sets/builds not just 1 size fits all max out boss armor and AP til you die 

- craftable cosmetic costumes that are expensive and time consuming, maybe tie in exploration of the world, life skills, RNG drops off specific mobs or world bosses

- craftable boss armor that is expensive and time consuming, same as above 

- more world events, like towns getting raided by mobs, to break up the monotony of grinding the same spots 

I hate to sound like a -----ing casual but gearing up, especially with how gear>skill in this game, is just too tedious. It really takes away from things I'd rather be doing in game. 

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Ive said it before, if this game had wow graphics... no one would play it. If wow had BDO's graphics/engine EVERYONE would play it.

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Ive said it before, if this game had wow graphics... no one would play it. If wow had BDO's graphics/engine EVERYONE would play it.

I wouldn't play WoW unless they adopted BDO combat system. :|

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