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The Failstack dillema

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Is anyone STILL thinking that failstacking is just as hard now as it was two months ago?

Where you could ROUTINELY and EASILY get 25+ failstacks on reblath armor, you are lucky to get to +15 these days.

Now boss gear, that stuff you can failstack easily on, but normal gear, gear that doesn't require memory fragments to repair, yeah right.

I wonder will there be any NON PEARL SHOP relief on this rather vital issue?

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Nope.. Valks cry incoming

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it's not an issue at all, you just don't understand the system it seems.

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it's not an issue at all, you just don't understand the system it seems.

BEFORE they introduced the +16 gear, you could expect a piece of +14 reblath gear to get to 25 fail stacks 7 out of 10 times.

This is CLEARLY and UNDENIABLY no longer the case.  Now you are lucky to get a Piece of +14 gear to 15 or 16 stacks 3 out of 10 times... And that i would consider fairly lucky.

They changed the numbers, to make it easier to get to +15 gear, to catch new players up.  And in doing so, they made reliable failstacking on NON boss gear incredibly difficult.

Now what part of this system don't i understand?

Edited by Wyrdmake

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I still failstack consistently to 20/25 on Reblath, nothing changed.

Edited by WeaselPaw

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BEFORE they introduced the +16 gear, you could expect a piece of +14 reblath gear to get to 25 fail stacks 7 out of 10 times.

This is CLEARLY and UNDENIABLY no longer the case.  Now you are lucky to get a Piece of +14 gear to 15 or 16 stacks 3 out of 10 times... And that i would consider fairly lucky.

They changed the numbers, to make it easier to get to +15 gear, to catch new players up.  And in doing so, they made reliable failstacking on NON boss gear incredibly difficult.

Now what part of this system don't i understand?

never had this kind of luck with reblath, ever.

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BEFORE they introduced the +16 gear, you could expect a piece of +14 reblath gear to get to 25 fail stacks 7 out of 10 times.

This is CLEARLY and UNDENIABLY no longer the case.  Now you are lucky to get a Piece of +14 gear to 15 or 16 stacks 3 out of 10 times... And that i would consider fairly lucky.

They changed the numbers, to make it easier to get to +15 gear, to catch new players up.  And in doing so, they made reliable failstacking on NON boss gear incredibly difficult.

Now what part of this system don't i understand?

I have never had any luck with Reblath getting over 15 -18 failstacks math, long before Mediah. RNG man, not a conspiracy. 

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BEFORE they introduced the +16 gear, you could expect a piece of +14 reblath gear to get to 25 fail stacks 7 out of 10 times.

This is CLEARLY and UNDENIABLY no longer the case.  Now you are lucky to get a Piece of +14 gear to 15 or 16 stacks 3 out of 10 times... And that i would consider fairly lucky.

They changed the numbers, to make it easier to get to +15 gear, to catch new players up.  And in doing so, they made reliable failstacking on NON boss gear incredibly difficult.

Now what part of this system don't i understand?

Are you insinuating they changed something without telling us? How dare you?

Edited by crazyryoga

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build stacks on grunil and yurias and if you need more stacks livitos.

Reblah is stupid nowdays dont do that ever if you ever want to hit true endgame gears at tet pen.

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BEFORE they introduced the +16 gear, you could expect a piece of +14 reblath gear to get to 25 fail stacks 7 out of 10 times.

This is CLEARLY and UNDENIABLY no longer the case.  Now you are lucky to get a Piece of +14 gear to 15 or 16 stacks 3 out of 10 times... And that i would consider fairly lucky.

They changed the numbers, to make it easier to get to +15 gear, to catch new players up.  And in doing so, they made reliable failstacking on NON boss gear incredibly difficult.

Now what part of this system don't i understand?

How about changing to something else like Grunil.  You can even sell it after.  Heck I'm still trying to +15 my Grunil chest armor and I'm building 25 stacks with that.  I do the amity game to buy cheap grunil.. not market prices.

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i failstack reblath to 16, then krea offhand to 25. 

works 9/10 times. 

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BEFORE they introduced the +16 gear, you could expect a piece of +14 reblath gear to get to 25 fail stacks 7 out of 10 times.

This is CLEARLY and UNDENIABLY no longer the case.  Now you are lucky to get a Piece of +14 gear to 15 or 16 stacks 3 out of 10 times... And that i would consider fairly lucky.

They changed the numbers, to make it easier to get to +15 gear, to catch new players up.  And in doing so, they made reliable failstacking on NON boss gear incredibly difficult.

Now what part of this system don't i understand?

i used this chart: http://i.imgur.com/7bfkYan.png ever since the game was released for all my enchants. According to this it's totally expected to get around 15 stacks with reblath.

nothing has changed. I never got 25 failstacks on reblath.

 

now if you want 25 failstacks, go to 15-17 with reblath then fail 2 duo and 1 tri attempt or something like that.

It's not like you reach the magical number with reblath and then succeed all your enchants, you fail on your gear like in every other game, you just get something for it.

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Try Grunil, as others have said. I got 20 stacks going to +10 the other day and I was actually trying to upgrade it, not build fail stacks. Should have just forced the stupid thing.

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I've used +14 taritas gloves to build 20 stacks 10x over and it's never popped. 

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i have no issues at failstacking, i have issues with the success though lol

rip them memory fragments

Edited by n1ghty

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How do you build the first 5 to 10 failstacks?

Still with cheap accessories or are there new strategies nowadays?

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i have no issues at failstacking, i have issues with the success though lol

rip them memory fragments

Same. I even get 50+ failstack trying to get DUO back lol. It's not a blessing when it's boss gear and no one sells mem frags so you have to do disco pilates cardiocartan scrolls x10 for the rest of your life:S

My most absurd experience so far was 33+ failstack on +7 Muskan Boots. I had no choice but to force.

But one thing is for sure, even if you're unlucky, it will succeed by the time you reach 65+ stacks. That's when the stack starts getting close to TET potential and rng obviously tries to prevent that.

Getting a 25+ stack the normal way is still doable. But after that, you better not risk it. Much safer to use concentrated stones and some trash DUO piece.

 

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From what i noticed getting to +15 is easy but getting from +15 to +25 is quite complicated and many times it does not work.. even on weapons.

 

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Do it like the russian guy who made his ogre Tri, build failstacks by failing to tri +17gear til youre at 60 failstacks.

 

 

 

 

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