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ninja got patched

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Ninja whining for korean damage numbers, while current numbers are on par with other classes. KR numbers would be totally broken unless other classes are also buffed.

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Ninja whining for korean damage numbers, while current numbers are on par with other classes. KR numbers would be totally broken unless other classes are also buffed.

Even PA admitted that they are not happy about Ninja/Kuno and after that those classes got buffed. Guess why? Because prebuffed Ninja/Kuno (versions we have now) were heavy underperfoming in KR and only a few ppl were playing them.

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Even PA admitted that they are not happy about Ninja/Kuno and after that those classes got buffed. Guess why? Because prebuffed Ninja/Kuno (versions we have now) were heavy underperfoming in KR and only a few ppl were playing them.

Underperforming since there is already Sorc, Ninja/Kuno also jump in CC/damage and run out. Making new classes with a similar playstyles but less iframe and escape options has an obvious outcome.Kuno/Ninja look cooler but that alone won't keep you playing them in PVP.  Making Ninja/kuno more easy and popular by upping damage way up is just dumb.

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Underperforming since there is already Sorc, Ninja/Kuno also jump in CC/damage and run out. Making new classes with a similar playstyles but less iframe and escape options has an obvious outcome.Kuno/Ninja look cooler but that alone won't keep you playing them in PVP.  Making Ninja/kuno more easy and popular by upping damage way up is just dumb.

Im afraid its not you who will decide what is dumb and whats not.  It was done already.

The worst thing is lack of information according balance that was used as excuse of late ninja/kuno release.

 

Beside did you ever played those classes? I was playing sorc before ninja was released (from the begining of the EU server) and however sorc and ninja might look slimilar its not so simple.

Sorc has much more dmg, iframes, sustain and surviability. You can cancel animations in many ways.

Ninja isnt so simple. It requires better timing, better skill rotation and its less forgiving due to lower surviability. And on top of that it has less dmg.

Thats why ninja/kuno need that dmg buff - dmg burst is the trumph card of this class. Without it its only a CC puppet.

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Ninja whining for korean damage numbers, while current numbers are on par with other classes. KR numbers would be totally broken unless other classes are also buffed.

says the wizard/witch LOL

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says the wizard/witch LOL

They already got buffed vs awakening weapons :P and not only in KR here to so its totaly unfair to play vs awakens and vs classes what got buffed vs awakens.

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Being a glass ninja cannon is fun, but not when you have no cannon.

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Still no answer ... a community well managed :(

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Even PA admitted that they are not happy about Ninja/Kuno and after that those classes got buffed. Guess why? Because prebuffed Ninja/Kuno (versions we have now) were heavy underperfoming in KR and only a few ppl were playing them.

I say the same Ninja / Kunoichi trash-tier and - PA will not do anything because only a few people playing them !!! If you do not want to be trash-Tier you have to reroll !!!
@GM; @CM Confirmed !!!! (Disappointed for the players PA changed only description - piss-off us!!! important that us have already spent money on suits for our NINJA/KUNO !!!)

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Still no answer ... a community well managed :(

They did aswer, they said that the damage did not increase with the tooltip changes, and that it has been reported to the developers.

Edited by onvuu

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Do you think there is any chance for us to receive a buff this patch ?

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Do you think there is any chance for us to receive a buff this patch ?

the patch notes mentions 'adjusting tooltips' i bet they just reverted our tooltips to reflect the lower damage again.

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the patch notes mentions 'adjusting tooltips' i bet they just reverted our tooltips to reflect the lower damage again.

Tooltip didn't change and damage is still not fixed.

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I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for buffs lol

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Not that we need them anyway...Im doing tons of dmg with my ninja

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Ppl say that like it's amazing excluding context.

I do tons of dmg too on my 201 ap ninja on a 240 dp target.

I just farm slower than my friend with more ap than her, less sustainability, and with less utility.

She does over 50% of my hp with 100% ultimate, to my 263 dp char

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Farm slower than? Who are you comparing to? A Ranger?

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Not that we need them anyway...Im doing tons of dmg with my ninja

 

Ppl say that like it's amazing excluding context.

I do tons of dmg too on my 201 ap ninja on a 240 dp target.

I just farm slower than my friend with more ap than her, less sustainability, and with less utility.

She does over 50% of my hp with 100% ultimate, to my 263 dp char

Forgive me if im wrong but maybe you both shall compare dmg of equally geared players using different classes? Or at least specify what was the gear of your opponent...

I also do tons of dmg to undergeared ppl but when i compare my Ninja (172/229) with my sorc (non awakened, 140/229) they seem to be equal in terms of dmg (but sorc has much more surv).

 

In the end its not about how much dmg you do but how the whole class playes in comparison to otheres with similar gear. In my opinion Ninja/Kuno shall be best burst classes while atm they are FAR FAR away from it. And thats why we strongly need this buff.

 

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Farm slower than? Who are you comparing to? A Ranger?

war, awakening ofc

 

Forgive me if im wrong but maybe you both shall compare dmg of equally geared players using different classes? Or at least specify what was the gear of your opponent...

I also do tons of dmg to undergeared ppl but when i compare my Ninja (172/229) with my sorc (non awakened, 140/229) they seem to be equal in terms of dmg (but sorc has much more surv).

 

In the end its not about how much dmg you do but how the whole class playes in comparison to otheres with similar gear. In my opinion Ninja/Kuno shall be best burst classes while atm they are FAR FAR away from it.

 

i think u more or less saying what I'm saying. Atm ninja are far from having best burst.

When Comparing current ninja to awakened war, in every aspect, it's hard to see why ninjas don't need a balance patch as assumed by the first guy I replied to

To reiterate, when someone like that guy says oh I do op dps, they usually exclude context like their ap and their target dp

Edited by Tsurugi
Wups didn't quote him

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Anybody who says ninja in the current meta are a good or great class are pretty dumb. They're decent at best, though the most fun class out of them all. We lack the damage we need for how much little survivability we have. Our CC is nice, but without a knockdown, we aren't doing anything.

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