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so they added artisan's memory to pearl shop. 0.5 cents = 2 memory fragment. 100 euro = over 400 mem fragments

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why dont you guys just add pen armors to cash shop 

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And so the tears begin to flow...  *puts on shades*

LET IT BEGIN!

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Or, you could choose to not buy them and benefit from the increased availability of regular memory fragments that will be created.

So much self-entitled cry baby

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Or, you could choose to not buy them and benefit from the increased availability of regular memory fragments that will be created.

So much self-entitled cry baby

how are u benefiting by not using them?

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my bad, i thought that 1 artisan is 1 fragment but it looks like 1 artisan is 2 fragments so 5 cents = 2 fragments

 

100 euro = 400 fragments 

 

 

400 fragments cost 300mil in game, 

 

a 5man group of 10 discos is 70-80 fragments usually so you need 5-6 groups to get that much. So lets say 5 groups = 50 discos for you and 50 for your groupmates = 250 discos = takes almost an entire day

 

this is even more p2w than everything else they've added so far

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wow... so 1 fragment + this is 3 durability on boss gear? this is huge tbh... much worse than the costume selling O.o

its not even capped. i prepared 250 fragments for my scythe, with this i could make that 750 and enchant my whole boss gear today.

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Or, you could choose to not buy them and benefit from the increased availability of regular memory fragments that will be created.

So much self-entitled cry baby

Wait, do you think whales will buy artisans memory and STILL RUN MEMORY FRAGMENT GROUPS?

Are you insane? Memory fragment grind is the most boring and annoying part of the game, by quite a long stretch.

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New shit storm inc.

Daum still not giving a -----. 

Wouldnt even be surprised if the community doesn't give a ----- about the p2w changes. Atleast I don't anymore kaokao=trion 2.0

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5 scroll party gives on average (from personal experience) 40 fragments and a 5 scroll party costs roughly 25m

using 40 artisan memories (4 x 10bundles costs 1800 pearls) yields you effectively 120 memory fragments (edit 40 x 3)

having an additional 80 memory fragments from paying 18 euros/usd, you gain 50m in worth

 

???? kakao eu hello??

 

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This is dumb.

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srsly this just ruined my good mood i had cause of sorc awakening. what a bad move... i now have to pay or use fragments at 1/3 of their full potential. and paying feels bad cause i got my progress with money rather than playing the game... fkn lame.

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might as well add in game silver with real money, 

 

if they added ingame silver with real money it would be less P2w because mem fragments are a limited/hard to get item so this boosts the memory fragments pretty much which not only means you save money but also insane amount of time which is double p2w 

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Enable trading, allow all stuff to be sold without caps on marketplace, just finish off the game so people can move on. Can't wait for valk's cry next patch!

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Like I said in another post we are the frogs and they are slowly turning up the heat.

Nothing too drastic at once and after enough time once people get used to each stage of more money to buy power then they go up another few degree and eventually  valks cry will be in the patch notes too.

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Trion 2.0

Milking us for all were worth

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did they remove the 400 loyalty artisan memory?

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hey we are cows

milk us

daum

shit kakao.

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The thing is I would gladly pay money if it were a sub but I don't want to pay to be able to stand a chance in pvp against someone else who paid who will then pay more since he isn't ahead of me anymore causing me to have to pay more to catch up again.  That wouldn't be so bad in a regular mmo where after a certain amount of time you have the best gear in the game but this game has near limitless top end for gear progression (which I normally like) but combine that with buying power and it means possibly limitless amounts of money to be spent.

Well I guess any slim hopes I had that kakao would reverse course or at least stop the pay for power creep are gone...im sad today.

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Or, you could choose to not buy them and benefit from the increased availability of regular memory fragments that will be created.

So much self-entitled cry baby

Or you could shut up and realize you are being a cow and getting milk and turning this game into even more P2W.

Oh wait, you are having no problem being stupid as a cow, I get it.

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The devs are pure genius they can add a million "kinda p2w but kinda not" mechanics and the community will never agree it's p2w!

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did they remove the 400 loyalty artisan memory?

I wouldn't even care if they reduced the loyalty cost to 50 too. It's just there so they can say "but it's also available with loyalty for free".

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Wait, do you think whales will buy artisans memory and STILL RUN MEMORY FRAGMENT GROUPS?

Are you insane? Memory fragment grind is the most boring and annoying part of the game, by quite a long stretch.

why would they run scroll groups when they can just sell a couple outfits and buy the frags?

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On the screen shot in the patch notes it says 1/10.

I assumed this meant a 10 per day limit? Is that not the case?

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The devs are pure genius they can add a million "kinda p2w but kinda not" mechanics and the community will never agree it's p2w!

having a community that is hidding themself from the p2w reality is also really helpfull

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