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Pearl Shop Discussion Megathread

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Dude, that's not pay to win.

Anyone can get 100 fail stacks.

/s /t /whiteknight

Yea, pay for convenience right? Just like everything else in the cash shop!

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Yea, pay for convenience right? Just like everything else in the cash shop!

Ayy you only get them faster that way ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

 

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Dude, that's not pay to win.

Anyone can get 100 fail stacks.

/s /t /whiteknight

Let's not forget 'It doesn't guarantee success so it's not p2w.'

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Back on topic:  This game isn't really pay2win. people paying $30 for 17-19 mil silver? lol, that's nothing for $30. Beef up your luck and play some PVE or do life skills. In 1-2 hours of gameplay we nonpayers have probably surpassed what they paid for.  Just got to the forums and been reading a lot of topics, Most of what I'm seeing is a bunch of players who rather spend time complaining that their gear isn't as good as others and blaming it on the publishers when you could be spending time earning silver and boosting your gear.  This degree of negativity brings down the morale of not only the player base and causes a spiral effect of redundant collective self-destructing negativity, which would cause this game to destroy itself faster than anything else could.  I think the game is great.

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people paying $30 for 17-19 mil silver? lol, that's nothing for $30

Apparently it is for some people since I doubt they are selling costumes out of the goodness of their hearts. To be honest I wouldn't mind extra 125 million silver / week either.

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Can you solo Ancient Kutum without getting hit? I'm sure someone really skilled could.

No because he will be beaten by lags and desyncs. 37.gif

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Apparently it is for some people since I doubt they are selling costumes out of the goodness of their hearts. To be honest I wouldn't mind extra 125 million silver / week either.

Imagine people doing it since several months...

Guess why there is that many TET tries on Jordine?

Grind... yes... what a comedy. (at least alot of people can't grind that much)

"That game is not P2W"

Sure... only convenience.

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Imagine people doing it since several months...

Guess why there is that many TET tries on Jordine?

Grind... yes... what a comedy. (at least alot of people can't grind that much)

"That game is not P2W"

Sure... only convenience.

There are indeed more TET tries than poeples grinding on Jordine.

And poeples crying to get more stuff from the cash shop in market all day long.

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And poeples crying to get more stuff from the cash shop in market all day long.

Especially that one.

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This is a opinion from a veteran player from the 90's.

 

I think people forget the mean of P2W on MMORPGS, you all complain about the Cash Shop and how they suck money out?

 

This true is THIS GAME IS NOT P2W, A game to be P2W needs items that give advantage over players who don't use Cash and unlimited cash shop item sales:

Does this game gives you Enhancement stones, superb gear or amazing items that make you better then all other players? 

- NO, if you consider extras like inventory or mounts or pets, making you OP, its just nonsense

Does this game have huge amount of GOLD SELLERS over the chat, and players are buying it as crazy and influence the economy of the game?

- NO, the company controlled them well, there is the powerleveling issue, but that is a minor problem, and expensive one compared to normal top games lie WoW or B&S

Can you get all the top items from game selling Costumes, pets etc???

Here is a simple calculation

30$ allows you to buy a very nice outfit and sell it on the cash shop to profit a nice 13m gold (lol) + you can sell 5 items a week

- Total profit 65m/w

- Spending 150$

The reason i put this calculation here is simple... What the hell is 65m in a week?, if you are a player who farm their own silver without using CASH SHOP, for sure you know this amount is peanuts. if you don't know how to make money search youtube or google, theres ways of being rich easily^^

 

Did you benefit from this implementation?

Now you have the opportunity to get all Cash Shop items without spending one $, do i need to say more? don't think so..

Have you ever tried a real p2w game?

This is my story, i play MMOs for 17 years, and as all of you, I am always hoping for games that can be fun and fair. True is BDO cash shop system and AH is probably the most controllable economy i ever saw, i always played old and new games that people who could get cash shop to trade for economy in game were dominating the servers they were on, there was no limit of prices or items they could sell, so they could profit more then a 24/h top f2p player who is farming for is wealth for life.

For the last 6 Years i jumped from one  MMORPG to another, because the p2w was real, there was no limit on sales, there was no limit of money players could trade for in game currency, and when this isn't enough, we have the real issues, the gold sellers....

So I have a real question for you all that are all raging (respecting your opinion, lack of knowlodge and probably lack of skill or mmo experience)

What game is available now with so much control in Cash shop and specially with gold sellers then BDO?

If you can prove there is other games with better options then BDO than you are totally right... thing is will you find one?

I leave this question for all of those haters and maybe to the supporters of this idea.

 

*P.S. when you bring your arguments here try to answer the questions i made and said NO, don't go off topic^^

 

WHY I POSTED THIS? Because before you hate, get the market knowledge first, and then bring facts. and if you Give WoW example, just google WoW gold and you have the answer^^

 

DONT FORGET P2W is not just CASH SHOP, its also outside factors

 

Edited by aradonaisan
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Oh, how far this game would go if there was gear balance and not "Whoever has the best gear won't need skill to one shot a carebear". Saddening, so much potential destroyed by the everlasting greed of this god forsaken company. Even Nexon looks good in the face of this publisher. 

Go play nexon Atlantica Online and spend 10k $ a month to be a average player... good example^^

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Because I'm paying, but I'm still not winning. It's time for Daum to sell skills now. Is there a "Git gud" potion coming soon?

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pajamas costume: +1 extra energy recovery (online and offline)

Worker promote coupon 

Worker skill change coupon

contribution point:
Max energy upgrade:
10/20/30
1/family

Theif costume: chance for Better/additional pickpocket loot.

crocodile Hunting costume: same benefit from treant, but % hunting xp and chance not to consume musket durablity instead of +1 gathering speed.

 

 

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Artisan memory.

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crocodile Hunting costume: same benefit from treant, but % hunting xp and chance not to consume musket durablity instead of +1 gathering speed.

FPRZCcG.jpg 

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i love it :D ArcheAge, AION, Metin2 and much more games become no P2W-Games at now ^^  That EQ which is buyable at the Cash-Shop isn't better then the EQ you have to get ingame without paying. You can buy the EQ for ingame-cash from players who invest real $.

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You can still buy them with loyalties or just use plain memory fragments. Pay for convenience is not pay to win.

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Artisan memory.

This
 

You can still buy them with loyalties or just use plain memory fragments. Pay for convenience is not pay to win.

Can a player using only loyalties buy them at the same rate as a player buying them using only pearls?

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Thx aradonaisan for this post. I agree with you to 100% !!

 

 

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"Did you benefit from this implementation?

Now you have the opportunity to get all Cash Shop items without spending one $, do i need to say more? don't think so.."

 

Nope, i want to be able to buy weight/inventory slots limits and the costumes for lifeskills.

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You do know how much silvers Im saveing useing cashshop artisans memory on my boss gears don't you?

 

BDO is now 100% P2W

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Come on Kim Jong , time to invade those p2w mother -----ers.

i want mmorpg from north korea!

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This
 

Can a player using only loyalties buy them at the same rate as a player buying them using only pearls?

obviously not but what disadvantage do you have bc of it. At the end of the day you can still repair your item to 100%. You did not read OP definition of wht P2W actually used to mean right?

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I want Kzarka/Karanda boxes and Nouver/kutum too.

And Valk cry.

So i get to farm you all day without having to Watch my back because the whole server will hunt me.

After all, what's 1500 Eur/Week heh? Pocket change that is !

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Artisan Memory but nice bait

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