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GM does farming = Gathering for this new event?

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Does anyone/GM know if pruning, and killing bugs on your farm plants is considered the same actions atleast in regards to events like this that increase drop rates for gathering? Ie can i farm and get the bonus drop rates or must it be gathering skill.

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This question was asked last time we had a sharp/hard event. Was even asked in the event thread. Still didn't get a reply.

Would be cool if we got some clarification this time.

But my guess would be no. Since pruning/killing bugs isn't the same as gathering. No love for farmers :(

 

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This question was asked last time we had a sharp/hard event. Was even asked in the event thread. Still didn't get a reply.

Would be cool if we got some clarification this time.

But my guess would be no. Since pruning/killing bugs isn't the same as gathering. No love for farmers :(

 

little bump for clarification GM.

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Why would a gathering event affect farming?  Farming isn't gathering.  It's farming.

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Why would a gathering event affect farming?  Farming isn't gathering.  It's farming.

This guy must be right, he looks like one of said farmers too.

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pruning and killing bugs on your farm isn't considered gathering, but harvesting your farms is considered gathering.  So, the shard event applies to harvesting your farms.

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pruning and killing bugs on your farm isn't considered gathering, but harvesting your farms is considered gathering.  So, the shard event applies to harvesting your farms.

Which has no chance of obtaining those shards btw.

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You only get shards from the pruning aspect/ killing bugs on your farms, not from gathering or breeding the crops.

 

I'd like some clarity on this also.

 

Will the increased drop rate affect the rate they drop on farms?

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who cares about farming

 

what about shoveling... its considered gathering but one of the first events didn't work for it 

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pruning and killing bugs on your farm isn't considered gathering, but harvesting your farms is considered gathering.  So, the shard event applies to harvesting your farms.

I don't recall ever getting any gathering exp from farming.

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they don't care

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who cares about farming

 

what about shoveling... its considered gathering but one of the first events didn't work for it 

Uhm everyone who farms and enjoys shards as an excellent source of game income? ;)

Have fun with that shoveling...lul.

Does anyone/GM know if pruning, and killing bugs on your farm plants is considered the same actions atleast in regards to events like this that increase drop rates for gathering? Ie can i farm and get the bonus drop rates or must it be gathering skill.

 

@CM_Aethon @GM_Caramel @GM_Dew  Any sort of clarification on this would be awesome. TIA

I don't recall ever getting any gathering exp from farming.

Farming gear gives a gathering boost, farming quests give gathering exp rather than farming. Farmings' miscellaneous mats give Gathering exp (ex: Seeds Half Eaten by a Bird).  Its not a far-fetched question.

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Funny how you think you'll get a response. Too busy milking all the cows.

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This question was asked last time we had a sharp/hard event. Was even asked in the event thread. Still didn't get a reply.

Would be cool if we got some clarification this time.

But my guess would be no. Since pruning/killing bugs isn't the same as gathering. No love for farmers :(

 

Every time there's been an "Increased Blackstone Droprate" event going on, I'll get 1-2 Concentrated (SHARDS) per day out of my Gardens

Most normal weeks that there's NO increase in effect, I do not get ANY Concentrated stones or if I do it took a whole week of Pruning

 

Garden details:  8-10 plots, averaging mostly 4x4's & 7x7's.   Drop increase estimate given average time:  +200% ?  ...also I am *not* a lucky person by any stretch infact my RNG luck is consistently terrible accross all MMORPG's or anything for that matter with a CMOS based random Seed. Affiliated node level might also help, but I only recently got mine to level 8 so I don't have any results to report yet

 

pruning and killing bugs on your farm isn't considered gathering, but harvesting your farms is considered gathering.  So, the shard event applies to harvesting your farms.

This is backwards.  You never get Shards while seeding, you get [[Fruti of XX]] while seeding, depending on the crop  (peppers = crimson, fruity vegetables = sun, staple vegetables = nature, ingredients for Teas = abundance, mushrooms = everything else).  When just plain harvesting, your only bonus "Proc" is going to be a small quantity of a higher grade yield unless it's already "Top Quality" then it just gives you slightly more special yield

Also Item discovery bonuses like increased gathering level, GM apologies, and kamalssive blessing can affect [[Fruit of XX]] rate. The ideal loadout for your gardening alt is probably Fortunata gear + gathering bonus Alchemy of Life stone & Balenos Specials

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There was an event before where the gardens basicly shat sharp/hard stones. One can only hope this event does the same...

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Every time there's been an "Increased Blackstone Droprate" event going on, I'll get 1-2 Concentrated stones per day out of my Gardens

Most normal weeks that there's NO increase in effect, I do not get ANY Concentrated stones or if I do it took a whole week of Pruning

 

Garden details:  8-10 plots, averaging mostly 4x4's & 7x7's.   Drop increase estimate given average time:  +200% ?  ...also I am *not* a lucky person by any stretch infact my RNG luck is consistently terrible accross all MMORPG's or anything for that matter with a CMOS based random Seed.

 

This is backwards.  You never get Stones while seeding, you get [[Fruti of XX]] while seeding, depending on the crop  (peppers = crimson, fruity vegetables = sun, staple vegetables = nature, ingredients for Teas = abundance, mushrooms = everything else).  When just plain harvesting, your only bonus "Proc" is going to be a small quantity of a higher grade yield unless it's already "Top Quality" then it just gives you slightly more special yield

Also Item discovery bonuses like increased gathering level, GM apologies, and kamalssive blessing can affect [[Fruit of XX]] rate. The ideal loadout for your gardening alt is probably Fortunata gear + gathering bonus Alchemy of Life stone & Balenos Specials

1.) Pretty sure "Concentrated stones" have never dropped from Gardens or Farms that i am aware of.

2.) There are probably reasons for you being unlucky in farming, search the forums for valid and useful information on farming.

3.) The question remains, since there is an event where you can receive a shard from gathering does the gathering activity in farming have the 'ability to yield a shard now'.

4.) I'm almost certain there is a better combination of gear and buffs as of the last 2 weeks that will benefit you more than what you outlined. 

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1.) Pretty sure "Concentrated stones" have never dropped from Gardens or Farms that i am aware of.

That's my personal term for Hard/Sharp shard fragments b/c I think Daum did a shit tier job of naming them when too many other things in the game share those terms

2.) There are probably reasons for you being unlucky in farming, search the forums for valid and useful information on farming.

I never said I was unlucky in farming, don't put words in my mouth plz. I said my rate of Hards/Sharps from pruning goes up dramatically during the EVENT.  Also there is no "Learn to Play" for a random number generator.  Even suggeting there is, leads me to believe you can't apply logic to programming concepts and I shouldn't be trying to have a discussion with someone who just wants to argue for the sake of arguing 

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That's my personal term for Hard/Sharp shard fragments b/c I think Daum did a shit tier job of naming them when too many other things in the game share those terms

I never said I was unlucky in farming, don't put words in my mouth plz.  Also there is no "Learn to Play" for a random number generator.  Even suggeting there is, leads me to believe you might be an idiot and I shouldn't be trying to have a discussion with someone who just wants to argue for the sake of arguing 

Whoa Bob...you said "also I am *not* a lucky person by any stretch in fact my RNG luck is consistently terrible accross all MMORPG's or anything for that matter with a CMOS based random Seed."...not me.O.o

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Whoa Bob...you said "also I am *not* a lucky person by any stretch in fact my RNG luck is consistently terrible accross all MMORPG's or anything for that matter with a CMOS based random Seed."...not me.O.o

What does that have to do with stating how many Shards I get during the Events and when the Events are inactive?  I'm not complaining about being unlucky, I'm putting that in there as a disclaimer for anyone else who might assume I was only getting more of them because I was lucky for whatever period of time.  No, this is direct comparison of 1-2 per day when the Event is in effect, as opposed 1-2 per week when it's Not.  

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It dosent seem to be affecting farming crops.just did my 10 fences and got 0.So shoveling here i comeeeee

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Prunning and pest control give you stones though

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It dosent seem to be affecting farming crops.just did my 10 fences and got 0.So shoveling here i comeeeee

Since we're already talking about a sample size with Lumbering/Butchering where you typically have to harvest 100-200 times just for one ConcShard, you can't expect 10 fences to even be in the 50% margin.  Maybe after repeating a complete pruning of it 5 more times, you might have a large enough sample size to get a better feel for it

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not getting any shards at all from farming today , have been getting quite a few up until today , i have 10 Strong fences so a round is around 100 picks , after about 8 rounds i have gotten nothing , which is outside the norm , not saying they took it out but i am fairly sure they turned the shards down

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What does that have to do with stating how many Shards I get during the Events and when the Events are inactive?  I'm not complaining about being unlucky, I'm putting that in there as a disclaimer for anyone else who might assume I was only getting more of them because I was lucky for whatever period of time.  No, this is direct comparison of 1-2 per day when the Event is in effect, as opposed 1-2 per week when it's Not.  

iller - my post was in response to your initial unedited post. You've now edited to clarify yourself. Thank you. May no one ever make the mistake of offering an unlucky person a hand again. Lesson learned.

not getting any shards at all from farming today , have been getting quite a few up until today , i have 10 Strong fences so a round is around 100 picks , after about 8 rounds i have gotten nothing , which is outside the norm , not saying they took it out but i am fairly sure they turned the shards down

Lol I keep hoping this is not the case with each round of pruning that goes by.  Fingers still crossed. ;)

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not getting any shards at all from farming today , have been getting quite a few up until today , i have 10 Strong fences so a round is around 100 picks , after about 8 rounds i have gotten nothing , which is outside the norm , not saying they took it out but i am fairly sure they turned the shards down

I agree thats definitely outside the norm

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