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Hello!! No need for blade after awake?

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So when Im not sleeping anymore blade becomes useless? What I have found out plum can easily and also should? just play spear only. Also Im asking because as week old player my opinion perhaps is not the best ;d

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You're still going to need your blade- besides the awakening sharing stats with it (I'm not 100% sure which/what). Every class that has their awakened so far is weak if they only use their awakening. You will need to switch in and out blowing thru CDs. If the Sorcs only use their sickle they lose their mobility- if warriors use only their awakening they can't grab. And it makes them "easier" targets. So........ya don't sell your liverto/kzarka :P

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You're still going to need your blade- besides the awakening sharing stats with it (I'm not 100% sure which/what). Every class that has their awakened so far is weak if they only use their awakening. You will need to switch in and out blowing thru CDs. If the Sorcs only use their sickle they lose their mobility- if warriors use only their awakening they can't grab. And it makes them "easier" targets. So........ya don't sell your liverto/kzarka :P

Warriors easy targets with 100% block ability even with awakening sword out? That's news to me.

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Easier then if they dont switch and grab you- yes, there are still tons of bad sorcs/warriors out there. You shouldn't lose to everyone of them. I kill the majority of sorcs in 1v1 even if they have higher AP then myself. If the warrior is good you will prob lose because of their Buff from awakening and just overall dmg. Thats assuming they stack DP still. I have fought warriors with high ap and yes they hit hard as fuk- but they also seem to be the ones I can CC more and kill. The ones stacking DP are harder because You cant just rush in when you and opening and half health them (or stun) so it gives them more chance to land dmg on you while you attempt a stun/redmoon/dragonbite.

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the thing is maehwa dont seem to lose anything for using spear, atleast anything of importance since shes not brawler who needs all her cd's in row, but quick nuke and escape and nuke again

 

as far as I know.

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You'll still want a high enhance one since your total AP with an awakened weapon out factors in your mainhand AP.

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So far i know the awekening weapon uses a weapon slot for its own and its AP is just extra on top of all your other gear.

So you will need that blade weapon

basicly if you have DUO Awekening you get like a ~67 AP extra

i don't know the exact numbers out of my head srry

EDIT: also nobody can see if you use blade that you have such high AP if you have a awekening weapon equiped

Edited by DeCiBeL

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awakened weapon skills still have cooldown times quite high especially those with wide range. since sometimes it can be hard to pack mobs, you are going to use red moon quite often anyway. swapping main weapon to something cheap, will make red moon useless hence leaving you with cooldowns.

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So when Im not sleeping anymore blade becomes useless? What I have found out plum can easily and also should? just play spear only. Also Im asking because as week old player my opinion perhaps is not the best ;d

There are certain classes I use for certain aspects of game play.
I find myself grinding for money on my zerker more than my wizard-
Zerker kills faster due to the uptime of -----thatgroupofmobs skills.

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awakened weapon skills still have cooldown times quite high especially those with wide range. since sometimes it can be hard to pack mobs, you are going to use red moon quite often anyway. swapping main weapon to something cheap, will make red moon useless hence leaving you with cooldowns.

Sorry for the sword enthusiasts, but the launch of the maehwa part of awakenings that are truly independent and effective optimal manner by not changing with the primary weapon. At lvl 60, you have no reason to use the sword, you will always have a skill available to benefit dps with awakenings. Red moon is probably the only skill you could use but i don't think this is necessary.

Some maehwa lvl 60 gameplay.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVSA0phcCUg&feature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSeM_lsqowc

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I'll find the link for you guys, but even if you do not use the blade you will still want TRI or TET and Kzarka blade, the reason is the following carries over to your polearm:

crystals

passive benefit (atk speed etc)

half the AP of main hand

and all of your accuracy gain from enchant

EDIT: found the data showing this: https://www.reddit.com/r/blackdesertonline/comments/4wyp8g/awakening_weapons_questions/d6b836y.

See response from LuckyFennec in the answers

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Sorry for the sword enthusiasts, but the launch of the maehwa part of awakenings that are truly independent and effective optimal manner by not changing with the primary weapon. At lvl 60, you have no reason to use the sword, you will always have a skill available to benefit dps with awakenings. Red moon is probably the only skill you could use but i don't think this is necessary.

Some maehwa lvl 60 gameplay.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVSA0phcCUg&feature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSeM_lsqowc

like everybody has level 60 before awakening.

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59 road to 60 :P

with the weekend buff  can be reach easy , specially in our case being one of the last awakend realease

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When do Musa and Maehwa get their Awakening?

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Thanksgiving week c;

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Nov 24th

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You definitely want your main hand since a patch will come out, already in KR, where 50% of you main hand ap goes towards your awakening AP. Also from what I've seen you use ur awakening 90% of the time compared to your blade form. This is why usually Musa/Maehwa don't need a lot of SP compared to classes like Sorc who need to swap between both awakening and non-awakening to maximize their damage.

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You definitely want your main hand since a patch will come out, already in KR, where 50% of you main hand ap goes towards your awakening AP. Also from what I've seen you use ur awakening 90% of the time compared to your blade form. This is why usually Musa/Maehwa don't need a lot of SP compared to classes like Sorc who need to swap between both awakening and non-awakening to maximize their damage.

Pre 60 you will still need to rotate into red and blooming to fill some time gaps but 60 your right in that we don't move out of spear at all, which i love :)

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