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Hard counter to Valkyrie --- Sorceress

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Be very careful when engaging Sorceress, for they're Valkyrie's hard counter on 1v1. They can shadowstep behind your shield easily, making their attacks unblockable.

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If your opponent is getting behind you regularly you need to start moving. Shield Chase back or really in any direction so you have time to turn and keep them in front of you. Ideally, if you think they're heading behind you, time it right and CC them when they get there. Knocking them down and being right next to them already is perfect for Valk.

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I heard Valks have the ability to turn around, was added in latest patch.

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thank you for the warning, ill keep an eye out.

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I heard Valks have the ability to turn around, was added in latest patch.

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What's your mouse sensitivity?  Just follow the movements. 

And try to stun as soon as they attempt to backstep behind you.

I heard Valks have the ability to turn around, was added in latest patch.

 

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doesn't the ex grab take care of that? If anyone is stupid enough to go that close to a valk without some CC?

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Are you freaking kidding me, i have been dueling sorcs all day yesterday, not 1 managed to kill me, you know ever heard of turning around and still blocking?

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sorcs are not a valk's worst enemy by far 

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sorcs are not a valk's worst enemy by far 

What is?

Not been involved in any pvp.

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What is?

Not been involved in any pvp.

none really, it's a very well balanced class, it's neither over powered nor under powered, it has a good balance between being able to CC and movement to take advantage of it, granted if you don't know how to play the class or you lack skill points it can be a tough or even disadvantageous for a Valkyrie, but same goes for any class.

If you want me to name some classes are are more difficult to deal with as a Valkyrie  that would be ranger or wizard IMO, and this is IMO only other people have other classes that they really hate while fighting as w/e class and they're free to disagree with me.

Actually to be more precise with my answer any class that has a high mobility making it hard to CC or ranged ability can be difficult as a Valkyrie.

If you know your class and how to fight against the class your faced with none should be a problem, this being in general terms.

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Wizards aren't bad, if they try to channel anything at you then you can shield dash in and poke them with just counter.  Haven't had much experience with rangers yet, just being destroyed by the ones that made it to level 50.

Sorceress isn't bad, you know they have to get behind you so you can anticipate where they're going to go each time they teleport.

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Sideswipe attack 2x, then block up

Counter perfect, unlike warrior, valk sideswipe turns her a little, so you will face the sorc while being in iframe.

 

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Sideswipe attack 2x, then block up

Counter perfect, unlike warrior, valk sideswipe turns her a little, so you will face the sorc while being in iframe.

 

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Are you sure sideswipe puts you into immunity?  I've heard a lot of mixed things about that

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Are you sure sideswipe puts you into immunity?  I've heard a lot of mixed things about that

you dont have iframes from right button i tested it on KR just before i posted i had some people help me and while i had fought mobs in NA i would still get hurt when using it. iframes for a valk is not a thing, you may be out of reach from a monsters hit box but you do not have iframes from an AoE attack during the right mouse button

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Definitely no Iframes on sideswipe, I think RMB dodge has short iframes but not sure.

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Definitely no Iframes on sideswipe, I think RMB dodge has short iframes but not sure.

I think means immunity to CCs, which happens on certain skills in certain classes.  Not sure On that one though.

Definitely no Iframes on sideswipe, I think RMB dodge has short iframes but not sure.

I think means immunity to CCs, which happens on certain skills in certain classes.  Not sure On that one though.

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Are you sure sideswipe puts you into immunity?  I've heard a lot of mixed things about that

it's timed evasion. Only .25 secs of immunity. It's character placement that causes them to miss for most of it.

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Definitely no Iframes on sideswipe, I think RMB dodge has short iframes but not sure.

iframe mostly in mmo's means immunity to all dmg CC's etc it means that you are given a 1-2sec immunity from everything during the animation. which exist in games like Tera other games alike. 

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Sorceress pre awakening is probably one of the easiest classes to wreck with a Valk based on my experience.

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iframe mostly in mmo's means immunity to all dmg CC's etc it means that you are given a 1-2sec immunity from everything during the animation. which exist in games like Tera other games alike. 

I know, and from my experience so far the RMB dodge is a safer and more effective way to escape CC combos than the sideswipe, which is what leads me to believe that it must have a few iframes.  I could be wrong however, as I haven't really tested enough to be sure.

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if valk grabs you , youre dead (if you have a good build)

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none really, it's a very well balanced class, it's neither over powered nor under powered, it has a good balance between being able to CC and movement to take advantage of it, granted if you don't know how to play the class or you lack skill points it can be a tough or even disadvantageous for a Valkyrie, but same goes for any class.

If you want me to name some classes are are more difficult to deal with as a Valkyrie  that would be ranger or wizard IMO, and this is IMO only other people have other classes that they really hate while fighting as w/e class and they're free to disagree with me.

Actually to be more precise with my answer any class that has a high mobility making it hard to CC or ranged ability can be difficult as a Valkyrie.

If you know your class and how to fight against the class your faced with none should be a problem, this being in general terms.

I would have to agree with this. It's possible to engage and defeat a wizard/witch or ranger....just annoying lol. The whole thing about Valkyrie fighting these three classes is playing the waiting game. You have to wait them out, wait for them to leave a sort of opening for you to more or less dive in and go for the CC chain. Valkyrie's shield can hold for a good amount of time before it breaks, and by then, most will pretty much let their guard down, ironically. 

 

When they do, just go for it.

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