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Why The Game Lost So Many Players

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well i know what it did mean to me, they killed a lot of guild (to me was my first guilds +300 members in them) postponing the sieges/node wars several months and being the end game just grind and hope someone come to you grind spot to fight.

yeah but maybe the people changed their gaming style, i mean i have never ever grinded ever, im playing more for the adventure, im level 56 and havent even gotten into Valencia yet, once i finish all the knowledge that i need for Mediah, im gonna go back and finish a few more in the other regions too.
Im sitting at 350+ energy with 2449 score on my knowledge gained, but i play for different reasons maybe other players change their styles or wat not we will never know the true numbers until u become a BDO staff member and see them.

I have also lost friends too due to all the changes, but i am still here and found a guild that accepts my playing style and im still meeting new players and people, so for me i feel the game is doin just fine, and the reason we are seeing less PvP'rs is probably because some of them left to play probably a much faster paced game with little to no grinding/character development like overwatch, counter strike etc....

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So the game has lost a great amount of players since release for many different reason but the top reason is definitely the RNG system. That great system where your progress doesn't matter or how many hours you've spend grinding and farming. People are here to have fun not to play lucky slots and yeah i get it, it has to be hard to enchant items, make them better, etc but throwing an RNG system on everything is not a solution... it's lazy development. Most players if not all hate that especially when it comes to enhancing accessories which is too punishing. We all know that the player base is dropping and for those that don't well, open your eyes and speak. Today i lost a bunch of good accessories because i wasn't lucky since that's all you need to make your character stronger. Yeah there are those times that your enchantment succeeded and you loved it but why make something so fun rely on luck?

 

Anyway i know this topic wont change a single thing because the developers are on "Don't Care" mode but at least i said what i wanted to say. I will keep playing this game but I'm honestly really bummed by some stuff that ruin the fun of the game and i don't get it why do they have to add those fun ruiners in something that can be just plain fun while being difficult at the same time. I'd hate to see this game go F2P or even shut down but that's ordinary nowadays i guess.

 

So let me get this straight: you people want a game where pretty much everything is guaranteed to you and can be accomplished/completed in about say a week or two with not much not else left to do? Why don't you go play WoW for the week or two that it's worth playing/relevant and just quit BDO because it's so freaking "hard" for you? Seriously, it's a game. Games involve some form of chance. Yes, this game's chance doesn't favor the player in the same way a casino's chances only favor the house, but that's what keeps people playing for years instead of weeks. That is ultimately the point of the game. Even more, the game is a business, not a hand out. They company that made the game, hold on here; this might come as a shocker you, but they are here to make money. Deal with it.

People are so spoiled and have this massive self-entitled BS feelings that for the most part all they do is whine then whine some more.

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3 servers = 12 channels each
1 mega server = 36 channels. 

12 X 3 = 36. 


ha?

5 chans at war on 3 servers > 5 chans at war on 1 megaserver

ha?

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News flash, just because they are merging servers, does not mean the game is dying as some misguided people want others to think. This is about the same time frame as Korea, and the Korean servers all were doing pretty decent as well when they merged. Just enjoy the game and play. So many wanna discredit or trash the game, shakes head.

News flash, on release, 4/6 channels overrun, to 4 month ago with 3-5 crowded during prime time, to now, with 1-3 crowded on EU during weekend prime time on most populated EU server. Numbers are droping, you are in denial.

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News flash, on release, 4/6 channels overrun, to 4 month ago with 3-5 crowded during prime time, to now, with 1-3 crowded on EU during weekend prime time on most populated EU server. Numbers are droping, you are in denial.

becouse they added more server capacity and:

The standard on Channel Server Status has been changed.

  • Example: The number of players need to change status from Crowded to Overrun.

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becouse they added more server capacity and:

The standard on Channel Server Status has been changed.

  • Example: The number of players need to change status from Crowded to Overrun.

Doesn't kinda change the fact that there were 3-5 crowded after capacity increase, with now, Croxus 1, Alustin 1 and Jordeline 1-3 crowded. Right ?

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Doesn't kinda change the fact that there were 3-5 crowded, with now, Croxus 1, Alustin 1 and Jordeline 1-3 crowded. Right ?

ye, but maybe now we even doubled that number of players but we don't know cuz the server status have been changed :D

rly i feel like more players now..every farming spot is packed, idk what games are u playing..

and not talking about world bosses.. 5 fps FTW..

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ye, but maybe now we even doubled that number of players but we don't know cuz the server status have been changed :D

rly i feel like more players now..every farming spot is packed, idk what games are u playing..

Ya quadrupled xD Dno i feel like only spots which are full is sausan and pirates like it always has been with more players catching up lol.

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Just curious, where are you getting this information from? 

Do you even play the game bro.

No way GW2 or WoW is "fair" :D

I hear the opposite about GW2. some friends went back to it recently and are telling about it. dont know much about wow.

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I hear the opposite about GW2. some friends went back to it recently and are telling about it. dont know much about wow.

GW2 is totaly fair tho, that guys is just trying to give BDO excuse.

GW2 = no rng for gear, nor for gathering, nor for crafting, you just need the money, or the resources, it only take some time, that's all.

GW2 only have rng for some loot.

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Do you even play the game bro.

What kind of response is that?

I was just curious to know whether he had hard numbers or was relying on feels to come to the determination that the playerbase has tanked.

Not saying I doubt his statement, as I'm sure many former Archeage players are itching to return to Archeage with the promise of updates and a fresh-start server, and players who always have to be on the bleeding edge of "the next thing" are waiting to enjoy their Revelation Online founder packs.

Just probing for data, chief.

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GW2 is totaly fair tho, that guys is just trying to give BDO excuse.

GW2 = no rng for gear, nor for gathering, nor for crafting, you just need the money, or the resources, it only take some time, that's all.

GW2 only have rng for some loot.

That was not the discussion at all. The discussion was about if GW2 & WoW was considered a "fair" game. No they are in fact not.

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Bro, yesterday I failed x5 pri to duo seraphs necklaces in a row. ( starting at 34 stacks). Then I proceded to build 2x 40 stacks on my dandy trying to duo it starting at 18 stacks. Thats a total of about 18 duo attempt fails in a row. Meanwhile my friend gets tri accessories on his first hit with under 30 stacks. What can I say the black spirit hates me..

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So let me get this straight: you people want a game where pretty much everything is guaranteed to you and can be accomplished/completed in about say a week or two with not much not else left to do? Why don't you go play WoW for the week or two that it's worth playing/relevant and just quit BDO because it's so freaking "hard" for you? Seriously, it's a game. Games involve some form of chance. Yes, this game's chance doesn't favor the player in the same way a casino's chances only favor the house, but that's what keeps people playing for years instead of weeks. That is ultimately the point of the game. Even more, the game is a business, not a hand out. They company that made the game, hold on here; this might come as a shocker you, but they are here to make money. Deal with it.

People are so spoiled and have this massive self-entitled BS feelings that for the most part all they do is whine then whine some more.

The game isn't hard in any way shape or form lol. It uses cheap ass cheat mechanics to fool fools like you into believing it is. Throwing out the self entitled card roflmfao you're so edgy dude.

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People need to learn that this is not a Server Merge, its a change to a Megaserver, which BDO was always meant for and every other Region is.

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Here we go again....

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That was not the discussion at all. The discussion was about if GW2 & WoW was considered a "fair" game. No they are in fact not.

I spoke about GW2

Gw2 is fair with players. Stop twist around, you were spreading fault "accusation"

 

Simple.

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I spoke about GW2

Gw2 is fair with players. Stop twist around, you were spreading fault "accusation"

 

Simple.

So you are telling me I can join GW2 now and we on same level from day 1 as someone who played 1000 hours? No you can not, so not fair, no mmo is fair and equal.

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this game won't die any time soon and i can tell you why - just go do pvp more often and you'll see for yourself too

 

the fact that there are braindead shitty classes like warrior/sorc/ranger/giant is why this game wont die, they're so incredibly easy and overpowered that every casual and bad guy's ego is constantly fed by the game for playing one of these classes. As a sorc you just need to land 2 hits to get a kill and  as long as you have 200-ish ap (which is low/normal/requires some minimal effort/ +18 gear basically) and its the same with all other classes. With giant u just need to walk up to a guy and press 5 grabs in a row and he'll die and you'll feel good about yourself

 

don't get me wrong, shit players will still be shit its just the fact that in bdo it doesn't matter how skilled or good you are - you'll always die and shit players will always get kills due to how easy it is to get kills and when you're shit player you dont strive for perfection and to win 10 out of 10 , you're content with winning 3 out of 10 which is exactly what bdo offers. A shit player doesnt notice the 7 times he loses, he only notices and talks about the 3 times he wins. The desync we have only helps that case even further.


if the game ran flawlessly and every skill did what it was supposed to do , most people wouldn't even hit me and would just die every time but because thats not how it is, i get hit mid dodges/super armors/blocks/ anything and because it only takes 2 buttons from most classes - situations arise in which bad players get to kill and that makes them happy and thats why they dont quit.

 

The fact that this game has no death penalty allows everyone to just stack full AP and go full CHEESE and be content with 3 out of 10 kills because its so easy to get a kill in bdo, you dont "NEED" combo you just need 2 buttons and it should be the opposite - you should need a combo to kill someone and that way its much more fair 

 

So you are telling me I can join GW2 now and we on same level from day 1 as someone who played 1000 hours? No you can not, so not fair, no mmo is fair and equal.

so your definition of fair is that a guy who's played 1 minute should have as much as a guy who's played for 1000 hours?
 

gw2 is retarded because of that exact reason, you can join at lvl 1 in gw2 and have everything you need/as much as a guy whos played the game for 2000 hours 

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This thread has a lot of fail and is bait.. but I will bite for a second.

Sad part is, seems like the op can't do math.

Log into each server. tally up all the Pearl Shop items sold on each market place.

Now tally that up and you just got a glimpse of the money spent on this game.

When you do that, you can come in here and tell us if the game is "dead" or not.

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i (Personally) generally think that if you're unsatisfied with a game, then you should leave it. just like how i left league of legends after Rito brought back Championship riven after stating that she'd be a LIMITED skin only avaliable to players who supported the game back when Rito was still a little company with a low population.

i get that League of legends isnt P2W but it's basicly the same.

if you don't like something about the game, then you should ask yourself.

''is this enough to make me quit the game? or do i actually enjoy playing the game, and can i ignore this.''

if your answer is ''no i can't ignore this'' or ''yes this is game breaking for me'' then leave the game.

we knew from the moment we purchased the game, that it would end up being ''pay2win'' (i do know that they said, ''we will not be pay to win''. i do also know that there's an advantage for those who purchase exstra bag slots and carrying weight. However it is important to note that some of these items are purchasable with Loyality points. and we might see even more loyality unlockables in the future.)

plus people who do pay to win, don't have the same sense of progression, noor do they have the same happiness when they achieve a goal, or get that epic drop from a world boss. because they know they'll get it.

 

Plus.... being level 65 with full pen boss gear doesn't really mean anything if you've bought it... atleast not to me. :)

 

please let me know how you feel about this, i'd love to have a (Friendly and passive conversation regarding this topic) feel free to send me a pm or continue the conversation here. =)

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5 chans at war on 3 servers > 5 chans at war on 1 megaserver

ha?

lol if your basis is node wars for population density then you are misinformed.

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more baseless and non factual crying.  go play candyland online.

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so your definition of fair is that a guy who's played 1 minute should have as much as a guy who's played for 1000 hours?
 

gw2 is retarded because of that exact reason, you can join at lvl 1 in gw2 and have everything you need/as much as a guy whos played the game for 2000 hours 

Well that is the definition of fair play, but no way I am for it! I am a mmo player and I like it not to be equal even if I am the one getting my ass kicked :D And that is why I approve Warehouses being combined.

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I think the truth is companies are focusing on a different kind of gamer. The largest revenue for mmo's by virtue of numbers are the ones who don't care about fair and equal play. The massive RNG in BDO is certainly not about fair and equal play. Those of us who enjoy fair play and difficult content are the ones who see the population falling. Everyone with similar goals and feelings whom we play with can't stomach what passes for a 'game' nowadays and eventually leaves.

I really hope someday an mmorpg will be created with the goal of being fair and challenging over squeezing every possible cent from players. Gamers who want fair game play are now the minority. So any game designed for me as a player will be niche. I think this is the reality of the mmo industry and the gaming community. It's disgusting to put it simply.

Your dream already exists even though you may have already played it. Guild Wars 2 is a game in which it can be challenging in some areas. Players play on a semi equal field in gw2. Getting the top end statted gear is not hard. 

 

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