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In general, whats the most profitable spot silver whise? Gahaz Bandits vs Pirates?

Personally im 59 at 212/257 as a wiz

I live @PI but people keep telling me to go Bandits bcs its better? Is this true?

 

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Overall bandits are much better but need some practice+ node invest

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In general, whats the most profitable spot silver whise? Gahaz Bandits vs Pirates?

Personally im 59 at 212/257 as a wiz

I live @PI but people keep telling me to go Bandits bcs its better? Is this true?

 

Bandits are profitable but you need awakening clear speed. The elites always drop weapon and armor stone so if you farm in the odd hours and you have the spot it is significantly better than pirates. Due to the blackstone farm + rosar drop almost constantly that you can heat and possibly get good return. Also it is really close to a warehouse.. also it is newer than pirates of which you should already be sick of. 

pre-awakening stick to pirates after awakening bandits but by the time every pleb and his mom will be farming there as well so pirates may see its renaissance 

and I don't know but pirates are kinda good for the fact that once you go there you stay due to the location also good to level trading skill to get great return on your crate empire when you go master 2+ trading etc. There is a certain charm to Pirates. 

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Bandits are profitable but you need awakening clear speed. The elites always drop weapon and armor stone so if you farm in the odd hours and you have the spot it is significantly better than pirates. Due to the blackstone farm + rosar drop almost constantly that you can heat and possibly get good return. Also it is really close to a warehouse.. also it is newer than pirates of which you should already be sick of. 

pre-awakening stick to pirates after awakening bandits but by the time every pleb and his mom will be farming there as well so pirates may see its renaissance 

and I don't know but pirates are kinda good for the fact that once you go there you stay due to the location also good to level trading skill to get great return on your crate empire when you go master 2+ trading etc. There is a certain charm to Pirates. 

Aight thx for the input...

Im not rly sick of pirates right now but if its better silver/h at bandits ill prob go there. I also deliver the coins i grind from pi at the most far point east of Valencia city for max return

Also in KR pirates received a buff, giving 1-3 bandana's instead of 1 each

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Aight thx for the input...

Im not rly sick of pirates right now but if its better silver/h at bandits ill prob go there. I also deliver the coins i grind from pi at the most far point east of Valencia city for max return

Also in KR pirates received a buff, giving 1-3 bandana's instead of 1 each

well this pirate buff is quite op, do u have a source for this?

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well this pirate buff is quite op, do u have a source for this?

Not rly, dont even know if this is 100% true, just info i got from officer in the guild. Now i double checked and it turns out not to be true

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Not rly, dont even know if this is 100% true, just info i got from officer in the guild. Now i double checked and it turns out not to be true

ok thanks.

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Not rly, dont even know if this is 100% true, just info i got from officer in the guild. Now i double checked and it turns out not to be true

I think Koreans have a cash shop item which boosts the drop rate and number of trash/turn in items such as bandanas etc. That could confuse people. I'm not 100% sure tho.

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Not rly, dont even know if this is 100% true, just info i got from officer in the guild. Now i double checked and it turns out not to be true

I think Koreans have a cash shop item which boosts the drop rate and number of trash/turn in items such as bandanas etc. That could confuse people. I'm not 100% sure tho.

Tulpa is right, it is the item so prolly your buddy saw a video and the pick-up of 2-3 bandanas but it is the cash shop item that affects it. 

Mozex, again you have no awakening so not sure you can ez kill the elites, once you can kill the elites in a decent time then bandits is more profitable. 

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Overall bandits are much better but need some practice+ node invest

oh, node level works now?

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oh, node level works now?

who knows man, I personally invest just to feel nice

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oh, node level works now?

was always working!.Do not listem some random bs test 

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In general, whats the most profitable spot silver whise? Gahaz Bandits vs Pirates?

Personally im 59 at 212/257 as a wiz

I live @PI but people keep telling me to go Bandits bcs its better? Is this true?

 

I pretty much one shot most Bandit packs at 201 Awakened AP.  There are many rotations at Bandits.  The most contested spot is the Canyon Valley that has 6 Violent spawns in it and sees the most foot traffic as people check, swap channels, and keep going like that.  There is 1 other rotation with 2 more VIolent Spawns and 3 other rotations that have no elites but very high density.  The advantage is if you get pushed out of a particular spot there's multiple rotations you can go to without being entirely pushed out while you wait to swap channels.

I farmed for about 16 hours over the weekend at Bandits with a Kamasilve on.  Each hour I got about 5 million silver in raw sales (vendoring Rosar and selling trash) as well as about 3.8 scrolls/hr.  That was with paying for the XP/AP Villa boosts however so income was probably a bit higher.  Each Pila Fe drops about 7 memory fragments on average per which with 5 scrolls is about 1.4 per relic or 1m value per scroll in memory fragments so that's around 8-9m/hr at Bandits with Kamasilve.  Without Kamasilve I tend to average around 4m/hr in cash sales and about 3 scrolls/hr which is still around 7-8/m.

The main money maker is the Violent mobs, however.  Each Violent mob drops, guaranteed, 1 armor/weapon stone.  They also have a chance for a jackpot drop of a Seraps neck.  There is also good chance of getting additional scrolls and of course a bunch of Rosar weapons (usually Amulets/Talismans).  If you can get the Violents it's more likely better than Pirates but if they are heavily contested (they are now as many streamers are showing Bandits and others are talking about bandits) it becomes less efficient.

XP wise from 58-59 I was getting around 2% per hour with few buffs (XP Scroll, Food, Beer, Potions) up to 3.5% per hour with all buffs (GM blessings, XP Scrolls, Foods, Beer, Potions, etc) during 100% weekend.

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Bandits are profitable but you need awakening clear speed. The elites always drop weapon and armor stone so if you farm in the odd hours and you have the spot it is significantly better than pirates. Due to the blackstone farm + rosar drop almost constantly that you can heat and possibly get good return. Also it is really close to a warehouse.. also it is newer than pirates of which you should already be sick of. 

pre-awakening stick to pirates after awakening bandits but by the time every pleb and his mom will be farming there as well so pirates may see its renaissance 

and I don't know but pirates are kinda good for the fact that once you go there you stay due to the location also good to level trading skill to get great return on your crate empire when you go master 2+ trading etc. There is a certain charm to Pirates. 

By elites do you mean those shadow of ghaze or whatever those sorcs are called?

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By elites do you mean those shadow of ghaze or whatever those sorcs are called?

yes 

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was always working!.Do not listem some random bs test 

Please do not confuse please with false information.

They DO NOT work and that was confirmed!  It's ok up to 5, but then diminishes.  IE:  5=5, 6=4, 7=3, 8=2, 9=1, and 10 is like nothing's invested.  

If YOU want to believe otherwise, that's your thing but don't pull others into your fantasy.

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In general, whats the most profitable spot silver whise? Gahaz Bandits vs Pirates?

Personally im 59 at 212/257 as a wiz

I live @PI but people keep telling me to go Bandits bcs its better? Is this true?

 

With your stats you should be at Gahaz Bandits or better. ----- I go there with potato stats and only need to use my shield when I severely ----- up. Or if I aggro sorc -----. (be wary of sorc -----)

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Please do not confuse please with false information.

They DO NOT work and that was confirmed!  It's ok up to 5, but then diminishes.  IE:  5=5, 6=4, 7=3, 8=2, 9=1, and 10 is like nothing's invested.  

If YOU want to believe otherwise, that's your thing but don't pull others into your fantasy.

it is working and the confirmation from random dude is just pure bs.

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it is working and the confirmation from random dude is just pure bs.

so we either believe the random dude who did extensive testing and provided his data, or the random dude saying it's "pure bs"

can you qualify or somehow back up your opinion?

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so we either believe the random dude who did extensive testing and provided his data, or the random dude saying it's "pure bs"

can you qualify or somehow back up your opinion?

first to provide  some " extensive" testing you will need to do IT for at least 2-3 months with at least 100 tester( preferably 1000).,for each level node.Then Yes if you belive to  this" extensive" random tester instead of game mechanics that are implated in game then gl and keep your nodes at 0

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Gahaz is much better XP, and has the possibility to give you a jackpot 50mil an hour if, and only if, you get a Seraps. Otherwise it's a little less raw silver than Pirates, just counting turn ins not coins or rare drops, with everything considered unless you're extremely lucky averaging a Seraps an hour Pirates is still better money. But not so much so that it makes it worth sailing out to imo, just grind Gahaz for longer and you'll get the same cash and much more XP. 

Also important to note for anyone that cares, Gahaz is absolutely shit karma. Like 45min is 20k karma and that's baaaaaaaaaaaaad. 

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Bandits are profitable but you need awakening clear speed. The elites always drop weapon and armor stone so if you farm in the odd hours and you have the spot it is significantly better than pirates. Due to the blackstone farm + rosar drop almost constantly that you can heat and possibly get good return. Also it is really close to a warehouse.. also it is newer than pirates of which you should already be sick of. 

pre-awakening stick to pirates after awakening bandits but by the time every pleb and his mom will be farming there as well so pirates may see its renaissance 

and I don't know but pirates are kinda good for the fact that once you go there you stay due to the location also good to level trading skill to get great return on your crate empire when you go master 2+ trading etc. There is a certain charm to Pirates. 

What.. you can't even melt the rosar items or roccaba, the only profiteable stuff you drop are the scrolls and black stones and if lucky, serap's necklace from elites, the rest is utter shit

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You can melt Rosar weapons now, the rare proc is Pure Titanium.

 

Do the basic gahaz drop Seraps like Nagas/Fogans as well, or only the elites?

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What.. you can't even melt the rosar items or roccaba, the only profiteable stuff you drop are the scrolls and black stones and if lucky, serap's necklace from elites, the rest is utter shit

 you can melt the amulet and get pure titanium 

there are more than 7 elites that is 14 stones per spawn at least and 5 to 7 rosars if u r lucky on amulets u get pure profit on average 20k when u melt. Not sure what you are on about. You need awakeing and high ap

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