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<Vertex> Hardcore | Node wars 4 nights a week | Experienced PvPers


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GF on the 1v1 kyoukai vs Vertex stalemate. Fun stuff.

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grind, gear, git gud

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hello i vertex member vudani best leader pls join also bump

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hello i vertex member vudani best leader pls join also bump

Thanks for the compliment, Dudududududu! Always lookin for exceptional pvpers ;) 

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Same.

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Oh so this is where Iconics power went. Nice! 

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Oh so this is where Iconics power went. Nice! 

luciform giveth and luciform taketh away

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Boop 

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luciform giveth and luciform taketh away

That explains so much. ty

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Level carried? Gear Carried? Just gay tbh.

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Level carried? Gear Carried? Just gay tbh.

Carried at what? T1/2 Nodes? LOL :D

If you want to be hardcore PvP you should try moving upward from bashing newbies and other lower leveled/casual players. Inb4 siege guilds' alt guilds: big whopping wot - siege guilds doing those are hardly putting effort in it, most often it is not even full roster not to mention level of care with rest of the shit that goes in truly skillful Siege planning. If you want to just have fun then have fun but this autistic numbers game you seem to love doesn't do you any favors while you keep planting T1/2s and mostly dodging real PvP challenges that the game can offer.

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Carried at what? T1/2 Nodes? LOL :D

If you want to be hardcore PvP you should try moving upward from bashing newbies and other lower leveled/casual players. Inb4 siege guilds' alt guilds: big whopping wot - siege guilds doing those are hardly putting effort in it, most often it is not even full roster not to mention level of care with rest of the shit that goes in truly skillful Siege planning. If you want to just have fun then have fun but this autistic numbers game you seem to love doesn't do you any favors while you keep planting T1/2s and mostly dodging real PvP challenges that the game can offer.

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Remind me, what kind of "real PvP" has iconic had recently? 

"skillfull siege planning" you mean feeding nodes/sucking off smaller guilds to help you zerg/remove any chance of anyone even placing on you? No thanks.

Where was iconic for that massive t1 battle with manup, barcose, vision, etc? Busy having 3 hour mandatory jump height elixir/formation practice in the desert? LOL

Best thing I ever did, in terms of having fun/good fights was leaving Iconic (siege guilds in general) and joining Vertex.  

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Carried at what? T1/2 Nodes? LOL :D

If you want to be hardcore PvP you should try moving upward from bashing newbies and other lower leveled/casual players. Inb4 siege guilds' alt guilds: big whopping wot - siege guilds doing those are hardly putting effort in it, most often it is not even full roster not to mention level of care with rest of the shit that goes in truly skillful Siege planning. If you want to just have fun then have fun but this autistic numbers game you seem to love doesn't do you any favors while you keep planting T1/2s and mostly dodging real PvP challenges that the game can offer.

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Wew lad, I actually just asked some questions and called ourselves gay. Are you proud that we took a T3 node yesterday? I hope big daddy Ol' Salty will recognize that we aren't just T1 bullies :( 

Siege guild alt guild, def dont take pvp seriously tbh. All siege guilds do in alt guilds is bash noobies too! Check this out, Don choco himself not taking a node war seriously! https://clips.twitch.tv/ConsiderateJollyAxeMikeHogu 

But wait!!! That was a T1 node!!! OMG BULLIES! WAIT!!! VERTEX WAS IN THAT NODE WAR TOO!!!! Omg... We are T1 bullies, -----.

More of the don himself not taking a node seriously! https://clips.twitch.tv/AdventurousYawningCroissantYee Hey, that's our fort he just killed!! Damn, too bad were just noobies too.

Here's more node war content that was totally just a prank. https://www.twitch.tv/videos/127579503 

Damn dudes, this content is just so shit. I'd prefer swarming a castle with 10 guilds every other week tbh.

Sovereign probably had a terrible time with the T1 node bully guilds Manup, Barcode, Vision, Audacity, Kyoukai, Grim_Angels, Baka, and DeadSerious in this prank of a pvp battle https://www.twitch.tv/videos/126947442

I can't imagine any players would be hardcore AND dislike the truly skillful planning of getting 5+ guilds to plant on the same node with you to swarm down opponents. Is it possible that performance might take a hit when there are 500 people in render range? Maybe, but I doubt it. I wonder.. Maybe when there are less people around it takes more than a zerg to win a fight? I wouldn't know, we never get fights in Vertex.

There are many reasons people come to Vertex, I post a picture of my buds in the channel in what I feel is a good way too show that our guild truly enjoys BDO and really pushes themselves to improve. We don't rely on others and I certainly don't push to overwhelm with numbers. Sure I could fill up, make a deal, and win a siege war, but me and my guys really enjoy the copious amount of content we get by not putting ourselves in a position to swarm every opponent we face.

To tell you the truth, bud. I think unprovoked responses like yours are one of the prime examples of why people leave guilds. We are here to pvp and have fun. Best of luck to you in whatever you are doing, Ol' Salty.

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Can't we all just be friends!!? :(

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Remind me, what kind of "real PvP" has iconic had recently? 

"skillfull siege planning" you mean feeding nodes/sucking off smaller guilds to help you zerg/remove any chance of anyone even placing on you? No thanks.

Where was iconic for that massive t1 battle with manup, barcose, vision, etc? Busy having 3 hour mandatory jump height elixir/formation practice in the desert? LOL

Best thing I ever did, in terms of having fun/good fights was leaving Iconic (siege guilds in general) and joining Vertex.  

Iconic has been low in numbers recently due mishap with Gravity, that has changed though and the goal never changed.. Iconic is looking to do it all Nodes and Sieges. 
For rest of that rant I just have one thing to say, still more interesting than buggering off to lower tier nodes and giving up sieging altogether. Anyhow this topic was about Vertex so let's focus at that.

Are you proud that we took a T3 node yesterday?

Once in a while doing something right doesn't make it your preferred mode of doing things, you are still mostly on T1/2s.

I can't imagine any players would be hardcore AND dislike the truly skillful planning of getting 5+ guilds to plant on the same node with you to swarm down opponents. Is it possible that performance might take a hit when there are 500 people in render range? Maybe, but I doubt it. I wonder.. Maybe when there are less people around it takes more than a zerg to win a fight? I wouldn't know, we never get fights in Vertex.

Skillful planning of building your HQ correctly, skillful planning of defending a castle or taking it instead of just weaker node war structures. Politics are obviously in play too which you refer at but I did not meant those as needing war skills, albeit political and pr skills can be similarly viewed. Keep throwing around the word zerg and soon someone will come with their 10 man nodewar guild and cry it back at you, so don't mumble about zerg at 90-100 people that one guild can sustain. For more than 100 though there are other problems like how to work in concert when "allied" guild are red to you.. you like exaggerating to make your point about "siege guilds" having to garner many allies.. but in truth most sieges don't see even the maximum of what 2 guilds could bring as allied into a "zerg". For my experience I haven't been part of any allied front that would go over that. 

For the fps/lag side of it.. sometimes you have to take what you get, they've improved and are improving the servers so that we'd have less lag.. for fps I suggest getting modern computer if you can't get required 15-25 fps in siege.. yes 15-25 is plenty enough to play and enjoy a siege. For streamers with their topnotch gear they seem to be running nicely at 30-40fps or more and without going too lego-block setting on graphics either. So again just an excuse for not pushing yourself to experience the PvP pinnacle that sieging can be. More I hear these excuses the more I want to call you out on them.

 

There are many reasons people come to Vertex, I post a picture of my buds in the channel in what I feel is a good way too show that our guild truly enjoys BDO and really pushes themselves to improve. We don't rely on others and I certainly don't push to overwhelm with numbers. Sure I could fill up, make a deal, and win a siege war, but me and my guys really enjoy the copious amount of content we get by not putting ourselves in a position to swarm every opponent we face.

To tell you the truth, bud. I think unprovoked responses like yours are one of the prime examples of why people leave guilds. We are here to pvp and have fun. Best of luck to you in whatever you are doing, Ol' Salty.

You claim you don't poach people but your guild does exactly that.. people flock where their friends are calling them. Individually people in Vertex might push to improve themselves but as a PvP guild you're stagnated at Node Wars. Since the New World there are many 100 men guilds out there and possibility for even more, bringing your numbers up does not mean you'd overwhelm everyone with them, unless you hop to T1/2s and don't happen to get to one with 10+ guilds planted. 

My response is provoked by false facts that have lured those people to Vertex in first place. Chief among them being that a guild could not enjoy both Sieging and Node Warring. Granted that they need alternative guild to use if they happen to win a siege to Node War in during the week but it is possible and limiting oneself out of Sieging while calling yourself 'hardcore PvP' seems ridiculous at best. As such it provokes people who can't handle bit of fps drop or do something about it to help themselves but makes them give up and join your bandwagon of stagnation. Everyone plays the game for entertainment and fun, some want to limit themselves to certain areas and that is fine but self-deception of "hardcore node war guild" just is something I have to take a stab at, if for nothing else than for all of those startling guilds trying their first T1s that encounter you having your 'fun' :P

So keep lying to yourself or re-align your shit, otherwise I am guessing this house of cards will crumble within a month or two. Best of luck with what ever you choose to do tho!

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No Offense...

From what I've seen, Vertex has good fort placement and turtles pretty hard against siege guilds. They only focus on KDA when they know they can't win and hold position to stack those kills. Of course, then they get outplayed.

 

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No Offense...

From what I've seen, Vertex has good fort placement and turtles pretty hard against siege guilds. They only focus on KDA when they know they can't win and hold position to stack those kills. Of course, then they get outplayed.

Not sure whom you are saying No Offense to.. what you say is not in contradiction with what I have said or negate it.

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Tfw arke says he never had fun when Vee and I led Iconic.....

 

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Tfw arke says he never had fun when Vee and I led Iconic.....

 

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pls, i stayed as long as I did because of you and Vee, but you both left me. :c

 

Also, most of the people in iconic were chill. I've just never been a fan of politics/zergs/training sessions. (Remember when I threatened luciform with a Dec while a veritas officer? AGENTILE WASN'T HAPPY LOLOLOL)

Also, bridona pls, you're a witch.  We get that you don't need fps or gear to be op. Especially in large scale gvg. Trying to say "YOU MUST ENJOY SIEGES OR NUB" is silly. All of us have done sieges before, and while I'm not entirely opposed to trying them again at some point, thinking that sieges/100m an guilds are the end all be all is silly. Life on the other side ain't so bad. 

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pls, i stayed as long as I did because of you and Vee, but you both left me. :c

 

Also, most of the people in iconic were chill. I've just never been a fan of politics/zergs/training sessions. (Remember when I threatened luciform with a Dec while a veritas officer? AGENTILE WASN'T HAPPY LOLOLOL)

Also, bridona pls, you're a witch.  We get that you don't need fps or gear to be op. Especially in large scale gvg. Trying to say "YOU MUST ENJOY SIEGES OR NUB" is silly. All of us have done sieges before, and while I'm not entirely opposed to trying them again at some point, thinking that sieges/100m an guilds are the end all be all is silly. Life on the other side ain't so bad. 

I tried to siege once, now I don't have a computer so I have to shitpost from my calculator

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I tried to siege once, now I don't have a computer so I have to shitpost from my calculator

I tried to siege once too. My potato got fried.

On the bright side I've some crisps for my gay brunch now

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My response is provoked by false facts that have lured those people to Vertex in first place. Chief among them being that a guild could not enjoy both Sieging and Node Warring. Granted that they need alternative guild to use if they happen to win a siege to Node War in during the week but it is possible and limiting oneself out of Sieging while calling yourself 'hardcore PvP' seems ridiculous at best. As such it provokes people who can't handle bit of fps drop or do something about it to help themselves but makes them give up and join your bandwagon of stagnation. Everyone plays the game for entertainment and fun, some want to limit themselves to certain areas and that is fine but self-deception of "hardcore node war guild" just is something I have to take a stab at, if for nothing else than for all of those startling guilds trying their first T1s that encounter you having your 'fun' :P

So keep lying to yourself or re-align your shit, otherwise I am guessing this house of cards will crumble within a month or two. Best of luck with what ever you choose to do tho!

There's so much I disagree with what you posted I really don't know where to begin but I'll try...  

The entire response wreaks of someone bitter and jealous over the fact that really high-quality players in guilds like FML & Vertex (just to name two) choose to remain out of guilds like yours that are focusing on castle sieges.  You're arguing your stance in that siege guilds can still enjoy node wars, right?  But having lived that reality I know just how much of a PITA it is to spend 2 days out of 7 without a tag having to hop back and forth, lose your contract, split your contribution points, deal with the constant dropping and reinviting—its anything but ideal or fun.  I also find it breaks cohesion within the guild and ultimately detaches the member from the tag whether subconsciously or otherwise.  Having that guild tag removed from your head for even a day does something to some people and I've seen it happen.  It just isn't good for guild morale and guild pride long-term.  Tin foil hat all you want but I believe that to be true as someone who's been leading or help leading guilds in BDO since launch.

Second thing I want to mention is the "limiting one's self" comment and how its relative to the person's own goals.  You think its limiting but to me I felt limited by the stress of siege politics and the lifespan of guilds that choose to go that route.  For example, I know for a fact that Lacari would love to just say "fuk it" and just enjoy node war pvp in a smaller-scale guild after seeing all there is to see in the castle aspect of BDO.  After a certain point you realize that open-world pvp and the dynamics of node wars is far more engaging and entertaining than anything a 100 man guild + 9 guild zerg backup meatshield will bring.   Don't believe me?  Take a look at Lacari's last stream and how excited he was to win a flipping NODE WAR against Barcode.  It's FUN.  He was outnumbered, there were several guilds involved, the map was different, the bases were smaller, the spawn timers were shorter, and so on.  Its great gameplay elements like this that I really missed when I was only focusing on Saturday fights in the past.  

That's why FML doesn't want to grow above X number of members and why Vertex has a cap on how many people they want.  Once you pass a certain threshold and drop on those T2 or T3 nodes you lose the fun of being outnumbered and its no longer about using your brains to stalemate or win, but rather about just zerging the ----- out of your opponent in 15 minutes and going back to what... lifeskilling all day?  No thanks.

You talk about "lying to yourself" and "house of cards" blah blah blah, but in my experience people who point fingers, insult, and accuse are just showing a reflection of their own denial.  In the end everyone just wants to have a good time so no reason to bash one guild or another for what they enjoy, amirite?

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There's so much I disagree with what you posted I really don't know where to begin but I'll try...  

The entire response wreaks of someone bitter and jealous over the fact that really high-quality players in guilds like FML & Vertex (just to name two) choose to remain out of guilds like yours that are focusing on castle sieges.  You're arguing your stance in that siege guilds can still enjoy node wars, right?  But having lived that reality I know just how much of a PITA it is to spend 2 days out of 7 without a tag having to hop back and forth, lose your contract, split your contribution points, deal with the constant dropping and reinviting—its anything but ideal or fun.  I also find it breaks cohesion within the guild and ultimately detaches the member from the tag whether subconsciously or otherwise.  Having that guild tag removed from your head for even a day does something to some people and I've seen it happen.  It just isn't good for guild morale and guild pride long-term.  Tin foil hat all you want but I believe that to be true as someone who's been leading or help leading guilds in BDO since launch.

Actually I have noticed that as well, dropping tag every week just does something to people, first time you do it everyone comes back, next week a couple don't and eventually you will be like "hey where's johnny" and by the weekend johnny will be in another guild. Still waiting for you to come back johnny.

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Iconic has been low in numbers recently due mishap with Gravity, that has changed though and the goal never changed.. Iconic is looking to do it all Nodes and Sieges. 
For rest of that rant I just have one thing to say, still more interesting than buggering off to lower tier nodes and giving up sieging altogether. Anyhow this topic was about Vertex so let's focus at that.

Once in a while doing something right doesn't make it your preferred mode of doing things, you are still mostly on T1/2s.

Skillful planning of building your HQ correctly, skillful planning of defending a castle or taking it instead of just weaker node war structures. Politics are obviously in play too which you refer at but I did not meant those as needing war skills, albeit political and pr skills can be similarly viewed. Keep throwing around the word zerg and soon someone will come with their 10 man nodewar guild and cry it back at you, so don't mumble about zerg at 90-100 people that one guild can sustain. For more than 100 though there are other problems like how to work in concert when "allied" guild are red to you.. you like exaggerating to make your point about "siege guilds" having to garner many allies.. but in truth most sieges don't see even the maximum of what 2 guilds could bring as allied into a "zerg". For my experience I haven't been part of any allied front that would go over that. 
For the fps/lag side of it.. sometimes you have to take what you get, they've improved and are improving the servers so that we'd have less lag.. for fps I suggest getting modern computer if you can't get required 15-25 fps in siege.. yes 15-25 is plenty enough to play and enjoy a siege. For streamers with their topnotch gear they seem to be running nicely at 30-40fps or more and without going too lego-block setting on graphics either. So again just an excuse for not pushing yourself to experience the PvP pinnacle that sieging can be. More I hear these excuses the more I want to call you out on them.

 

You claim you don't poach people but your guild does exactly that.. people flock where their friends are calling them. Individually people in Vertex might push to improve themselves but as a PvP guild you're stagnated at Node Wars. Since the New World there are many 100 men guilds out there and possibility for even more, bringing your numbers up does not mean you'd overwhelm everyone with them, unless you hop to T1/2s and don't happen to get to one with 10+ guilds planted. 

My response is provoked by false facts that have lured those people to Vertex in first place. Chief among them being that a guild could not enjoy both Sieging and Node Warring. Granted that they need alternative guild to use if they happen to win a siege to Node War in during the week but it is possible and limiting oneself out of Sieging while calling yourself 'hardcore PvP' seems ridiculous at best. As such it provokes people who can't handle bit of fps drop or do something about it to help themselves but makes them give up and join your bandwagon of stagnation. Everyone plays the game for entertainment and fun, some want to limit themselves to certain areas and that is fine but self-deception of "hardcore node war guild" just is something I have to take a stab at, if for nothing else than for all of those startling guilds trying their first T1s that encounter you having your 'fun' :P

So keep lying to yourself or re-align your shit, otherwise I am guessing this house of cards will crumble within a month or two. Best of luck with what ever you choose to do tho!

why does other people enjoying the game make this dude so spiteful

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holy shit hes in our thread now! and more crazy than ever!

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how lolly am i rn?

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