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Tamer is the weakest and most pathetic class in bdo and it even got nerfed last patch ???

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you have put a lot of thought into this, i commend you

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Jesus this is like an essay. How do you have time for this?

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Did you happen to do a spreadsheet that shows the numbers?

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Jesus this is like an essay. How do you have time for this?

I've *probably* invested over 4000 hours in bdo probably, and i've also invested a lot more hours in being frustrated or depressed over my class's flaws, i think a thread that took me few hours to write is nothing in comparison to these 2.

 

I really didn't want to have to make such thread but last patch ninja-nerfed tamers when they're already suffering so much in this game. I just posted the facts, the class is severely gimped in so many ways both because of its flawed design and because of the increased desync that we have on our servers. 

Am i strong in game? yeah i guess im pretty strong ,i can beat so many people outnumbered and everything but i don't care about that, i want my class to be as good as the others and to be viable and i don't want to be jealous of all other classes that get proper damage values and proper defense and proper offense. Tamers is really lacking in so many departments and the only reason why some people seem to think that its okay is because they see tamers getting kills but like i said thats just due to the nature of the game

the damage is too high in bdo for one reason or another , to anyone who's ever died to a tamer just imagine if the same player had the same experience and gear on ranger/warrior and see that it could be even worse. It's deceptive that "tamers are okay" because of the nature of the game.

Now kuno and ninja awakenings came out and what can i say? Im jealous of them because they have better tools than tamer does, no, not only that, they have a lot more tools than tamer does which is one of the main reasons. The developers simply refuse to give downsmash/knockdown/proper defense or passive to tamers for one reason or another which is very obvious if compared to all other classes. I just don't understand what that reason is 

 

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We deserved a little more buffs.

 

IGN: Juliet_Lin 

Server: NA

 

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We deserved a little more buffs.

 

IGN: Juliet_Lin 

Server: NA

 

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Sorry, whats "qt"?

 

 

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Sorry, whats "qt"?

 

 

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cute

Oh >,<"

Thanks, same to you.

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Don't derail the thread. Irrelevant is right in so many points.

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LOL & LOL & OMG LOL
+15 tamer can take out duo geared players without breaking a sweat, It is OP if you play it right, you can stun lock into AOE damage & wreck groups of players & dash away.
Git Gud seriously GET GOOD!

 

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LOL & LOL & OMG LOL+15 tamer can take out duo geared players without breaking a sweat, It is OP if you play it right, you can stun lock into AOE damage & wreck groups of players & dash away.
Git Gud seriously GET GOOD!

 

a warrior in my guild runs around in +12 armor because he's afraid of the game becoming too easy for him. sure a 15 tamer can one combo duo geared players. but the effort he has to put in to accomplish that is way way higher than you have to on other classes.

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It is actually quite stupid how useless most of our flows are, the only ones that are actually good and worth it is the defensive ones, which should be included in the base skill (cloud stomping) and the side dashes should be free. The class is insanely SP starved, can't think of any other class that wants upwards of 1900 skillpoints. 

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change class if you don't like it.

so much salt god.

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change class if you don't like it.
so much salt god.

Try putting thousands of hours into a character and just "change class" yourself.

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Try putting thousands of hours into a character and just "change class" yourself.

ok

Try putting thousands of hours into a character and just "change class" yourself.

done

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LOL & LOL & OMG LOL+15 tamer can take out duo geared players without breaking a sweat, It is OP if you play it right, you can stun lock into AOE damage & wreck groups of players & dash away.
Git Gud seriously GET GOOD!

you can stunlock people? you only have 2 stuns on fearful tremble and lighting staff which is crap

 

the pet skill is stiffness, has 1sec+ delay when used, nobody gets hit by it in europe maybe its time for NA to git gud ive literally never seen anyone get hit by pet stun any more, stiffness lasts much less than stun does and you cant wreck shit in that time and not only that but you cant "Dash away "because both of your dashes moonlight strike and legendary beast power are desyncy as hell and have less than half sec superarmor on them so you get cced almost always anyway 

 

they're literally the most unreliable and worst superarmors in the game and you cant use them and expect them to work because they work only whenever they feel like it

 

so no, you cant take out duo geared players and tamer has lower damage than sorc,ranger and half of the other classes in the game so that applies to all of them

you cant stun lock cus you have stiffness not stun and thats shit and also how dumb does someone have to be to not superarmor inside tamer pet 

you cant dash away cus they dont work 

 

 

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a warrior in my guild runs around in +12 armor because he's afraid of the game becoming too easy for him. sure a 15 tamer can one combo duo geared players. but the effort he has to put in to accomplish that is way way higher than you have to on other classes.

shall we discuss about the witch/wizard ?

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Try making a witch/wizard. I will be right here to pick up your tears while you are going back to your "OP" tamer.

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I don't know about other tamers, but I use all the flows. They all work well and do a ton of damage.

And anything node war related has always came down to gear, and numbers, though tamers are quite slippery and escape a lot of stuff some other classes can't

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Try making a witch/wizard. I will be right here to pick up your tears while you are going back to your "OP" tamer.

witch/wiz were the most op class in bdo for half year and will be again after their awakening

 

are you friggin serious?  also how the hell is that related to any of the things i posted

 

i merely posted facts

 

fact : witch has knockdowns and tamer doesnt

fact : witch does extra dmg to tamers and tamers dont

fact : witch is ranged and tamer isnt

 

and so on and so on, all these pros that witch has vs tamer's what pros? the pet that has chance to RNG CC someone thats bad enough to not block/SA in this day and age? incomparable

 

 

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Try making a witch/wizard. I will be right here to pick up your tears while you are going back to your "OP" tamer.

I have a tonne of fun on my 132 ap witch picking up kills in gvg against full tri boss armour people. Pressing like 2 moves to knock people down and deleting them is a nice change from spamming combos all the time :D

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I have to agree.. I like using non awakening way more than the staff just because I love mobility.

I just wish they didn't take away our mobility.. now it feels like I am a turtle..

 the one thing that I loved about tamer was the flip iframe through everything :(

 we are unique with a pet but... most of the time it doesn't feel like heilang is even there...

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I have to agree.. I like using non awakening way more than the staff just because I love mobility.

I just wish they didn't take away our mobility.. now it feels like I am a turtle..

 the one thing that I loved about tamer was the flip iframe through everything :(

 we are unique with a pet but... most of the time it doesn't feel like heilang is even there...

you should never use non awakening sword on tamer, once you start going up in level.

If you're feeling slow, you're lacking in familiarity and CD management. If a staff tamer actually did run out of CD for mobility, they should use instant sword switch with trample cancel.

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