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How to fight grind spot bullies (no patch needed)

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Everybody should respect a common rule (like irl): first come first serve.

Nothing to argue about pking or griefing.

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I wouldn't mind the karma system if they didn't allow the karmabombers to hide in guilds "not ready for war"

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You are right next time i ve settled on a rotation and a life skiller passes by I should just offer him the spot cause you know its impolite not to. I find it much more impolite when someones sees me grinding and just jumps in to ruin my rotation rather than moving 100 meters away where a free rotation is located. It might not be the optimal rotation but if he wants the one i m in he can just flag up and take it, its as simple as that.

i am a life skiller and this guy was #3 in growth, came to my spot and i killed him then he used 5-7 tears (recorded) and i went red then i had to leave, i have suffered karma bombing by pvpers more than life skillers, life skillers don't bother with grinding that much unless we push to certain level like i am lv60 now but was fighting this guy at 59.

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Everybody should respect a common rule (like irl): first come first serve.

Nothing to argue about pking or griefing.

You can respect the common rule that if you act like a jerk and try to mess up my rotation, I will kill you over and over. If you keep coming back I'll camp you until you swap channels.

That's the game. You either hold a grind spot or you don't. And if you can't, go elsewhere.

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Everybody should respect a common rule (like irl): first come first serve.

Nothing to argue about pking or griefing.

except there is no service. It's not like you wait in a line for your turn. Spare us this bs.

You can respect the common rule that if you act like a jerk and try to mess up my rotation, I will kill you over and over. If you keep coming back I'll camp you until you swap channels.

That's the game. You either hold a grind spot or you don't. And if you can't, go elsewhere.

As if you weren't wasting time just like the other party and the other party was losing something, while you do lose karma. I don't know who the heck do you think to "threaten" with these statements?

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As if you weren't wasting time just like the other party and the other party was losing something, while you do lose karma. I don't know who the heck do you think to "threaten" with these statements?

Oh, stomping stupid people over and over can be massively fun. It is rare to do so alone, and a few friends help spread out the karma loss and help cover more ground. It is the perfect kind of break from mindless grinding.

But the point is that if someone screws up a rotation (leading to no one getting anything decent) then it will and should come to a confrontation. The best has always been those who are civilized and offer to duel for the spot or those who begin with an offer/desire to party and to work together. It is rare I'll ever say no to someone who wants to party up and I'm happy to contest a spot to see who can hold it better.

Just yesterday a guy started going the opposite way to my rotation and just spouted the nastiest words and showed a sense of complete entitlement. I gave him a little bit to do the right thing before I killed him. He -----ed and moaned about it and came back so I killed him again. More whining about fairness and calling me names. And I was ecstatic because chasing that guy down and running him off was a lot more fun than the hours of mindless grinding I was in the middle of.

At the end of the day the spot goes to the fastest/strongest group. That's it. That's why when I get kicked from my A-spot I have alternate areas to farm.

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>implying I care if I go negative a million

Get rekted shitters

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Without cooking you would not have foods.
Without alchemy you would not have elixirs.
Without training you would not have tier 8 horses.

And so on...
So, maybe you wanted to say "Thanks" to the kind of Life Skill players.

You should say thank you to those who buys your stuff .... its a two way situation.

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Oh, stomping stupid people over and over can be massively fun. It is rare to do so alone, and a few friends help spread out the karma loss and help cover more ground. It is the perfect kind of break from mindless grinding.

But the point is that if someone screws up a rotation (leading to no one getting anything decent) then it will and should come to a confrontation. The best has always been those who are civilized and offer to duel for the spot or those who begin with an offer/desire to party and to work together. It is rare I'll ever say no to someone who wants to party up and I'm happy to contest a spot to see who can hold it better.

Just yesterday a guy started going the opposite way to my rotation and just spouted the nastiest words and showed a sense of complete entitlement. I gave him a little bit to do the right thing before I killed him. He -----ed and moaned about it and came back so I killed him again. More whining about fairness and calling me names. And I was ecstatic because chasing that guy down and running him off was a lot more fun than the hours of mindless grinding I was in the middle of.

At the end of the day the spot goes to the fastest/strongest group. That's it. That's why when I get kicked from my A-spot I have alternate areas to farm.

If you are content with it, then no problem on my part. But I suspect from the salt in your post that you aren't content with it unless your victims choose to change channel, and you just pretend to enjoy "stomping" PCs when you'd much rather continue stomping NPCs.

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If you are content with it, then no problem on my part. But I suspect from the salt in your post that you aren't content with it unless your victims choose to change channel, and you just pretend to enjoy "stomping" PCs when you'd much rather continue stomping NPCs.

I mean yeah, that's a lot of stuff that comes from you and not from me. But by all means keep making woefully incorrect guesses about my inner desires.

I mean, I suspect due to the defensiveness in your post that you have some real issues with when people are more powerful than you. I suspect that you actually aren't content unless you never see another player, ever.

Do you see how ridiculous that is to claim? Engage with what people say, not with the argument that only exists in your head but makes you look good.

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That's the game. You either hold a grind spot or you don't. And if you can't, go elsewhere.

Oh, stomping stupid people over and over can be massively fun.

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At the end of the day the spot goes to the fastest/strongest group. That's it. That's why when I get kicked from my A-spot I have alternate areas to farm.

There you go, all your words.

At first you ask people who can't (or don't want to) fight you back in PvP to go away, then you claim you enjoy to mindlessly kill them over and over, and in conclusion you actually agree with what I said when you want to "correct" me, which is that the only rule in this game is that the exp and loot goes to whoever makes shortest work of mobs.

And no, I have no problem with neither of the 2 whining factions, I just play the game and adapt to the situation accordingly.

Thank you and come again.

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How does the bounty system work?

it does'nt... its not implemented and most likely wont be within a reasonable amount of time (lets say sometime next year). that is kind of the point, is it not? :D

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Mobs are a resource that people have to fight for its the whole core of the game if you havent noticed it yet. the whole concept of guild vs guild wars is to fight over region and resources . If you're a lifeskiller then why are you grinding?

I want to see how awakening is. I'm curious though, am I that important that everything I do matter to you? (✿◡‿◡)

You can respect the common rule that if you act like a jerk and try to mess up my rotation, I will kill you over and over. If you keep coming back I'll camp you until you swap channels.

That's the game. You either hold a grind spot or you don't. And if you can't, go elsewhere.

Usually when I need to karma bomb, death doesn't matter much. The time it takes you to kill someone is the time you don't have from farming. Will you get exp? Yes. Will it be optimal Exp? No. In karma bombing the goal isn';t to get exp anymore, it's to deny your opponent Exp. As long as their exp is denied the karma bomber win. With that said, I don't karma bomb without a reason. If I'm grinding and someone comes to PK me to take my current spot, then I will Karma bomb them. (✿◡‿◡)

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I completely agree with you sir. This is what i'm doing currently, and i will definitely keep doing. I disagree that anybody owns any spot, and even if you are better geared and more skilled than me at pvp, who sais that you have the right to enjoy content more than me. Nope, i am standing my ground, and i know that eventually the bully will leave.

Her will leave because they have a "doing what is best for gold and xp" mentality. I play for fun, i dont care about gear, xp, and gold, so i can compete with the bully for as long as i have free time, while the bully will see it as a "suboptimal grind" and eventually he will move where he can get "more" of that gold and xp.

I have your back Nerevarine, dont let these elitists and jerks bring you down.

Sup my mate? we're karma bombers by excellence :P We push people out cause we outgrind :P

I want to see how awakening is. I'm curious though, am I that important that everything I do matter to you? (✿◡‿◡)

Usually when I need to karma bomb, death doesn't matter much. The time it takes you to kill someone is the time you don't have from farming. Will you get exp? Yes. Will it be optimal Exp? No. In karma bombing the goal isn';t to get exp anymore, it's to deny your opponent Exp. As long as their exp is denied the karma bomber win. With that said, I don't karma bomb without a reason. If I'm grinding and someone comes to PK me to take my current spot, then I will Karma bomb them. (✿◡‿◡)

Here, if you come to a spot, you want to grind right? You wanted exp. A sudden asshole comes in and pk you, and keeps the spot now. So you will karmabomb him, deyning him optimal exp, but he will still be getting 70 to 80% of the whole "rotation" exp. Now, who is losing more time? The one losing 20% exp and keep killing/or plain ignoring you and keep outgrinding, or you, the one getting 20% exp, implying you're making him waste time as such, but you're wasting more time than him?

Think about it. Now, i won't deny i'm a bully at times, but i don't go negative :) i just keep outgrinding, th emost stubborn person i've had is for 30 minutes of annoyance, what did they do after? they left, they're just wsating their time. More than they're making me waste with their 20% exp intake.

I  mean, after all they wanted to grind too right? Instead of looking in another place a party or some free spot, they decide to karma bomb ie: waste time, more the bomber than the bombed.

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Sup my mate? we're karma bombers by excellence :P We push people out cause we outgrind :P

Here, if you come to a spot, you want to grind right? You wanted exp. A sudden asshole comes in and pk you, and keeps the spot now. So you will karmabomb him, deyning him optimal exp, but he will still be getting 70 to 80% of the whole "rotation" exp. Now, who is losing more time? The one losing 20% exp and keep killing/or plain ignoring you and keep outgrinding, or you, the one getting 20% exp, implying you're making him waste time as such, but you're wasting more time than him?

Think about it. Now, i won't deny i'm a bully at times, but i don't go negative :) i just keep outgrinding, th emost stubborn person i've had is for 30 minutes of annoyance, what did they do after? they left, they're just wsating their time. More than they're making me waste with their 20% exp intake.

I  mean, after all they wanted to grind too right? Instead of looking in another place a party or some free spot, they decide to karma bomb ie: waste time, more the bomber than the bombed.

That person has quite a weak will. I usually ruin their rotation for at least two hours before having to head back to manage my farm/process stuff. (✿◡‿◡)

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That person has quite a weak will. I usually ruin their rotation for at least two hours before having to head back to manage my farm/process stuff. (✿◡‿◡)

Lenme correct you, PersonS, cuase it's not the first nor the last. So the Exp i could've gotten in 2h, becomes exp of 1h30, while you waste 2h entirely. Seems smart. Props for the will power though, i'll give you that.

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Lenme correct you, PersonS, cuase it's not the first nor the last. So the Exp i could've gotten in 2h, becomes exp of 1h30, while you waste 2h entirely. Seems smart. Props for the will power though, i'll give you that.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder I guess. If I enjoy it, I don't count it as wasting time or else I could say you're wasting your life on a videogame while other people do productive action to further society. Amirite? (✿◡‿◡)

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Hahahhaha this advice is GREAAAAT. Until you face a contestor who is smart and drops your HP fast and lets mobs kills you while you're CC'd. Then you lose 1%, drop trade items and he won't lose much karma and can grind it off before you can get back. Also, if you're in a guild just dec you. If you're not in a guild well then the first option of CC is good enough. GOOD LUCCCKKK

I've been doing this to people lately in Valencia, specifically bandits, who try this. So far since I went guildless a week ago, I've done this to 3 people. I'm sorry but if you flag on me and die to me, don't come back. I'll then do this to you. 

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I've been doing this to people lately in Valencia, specifically bandits, who try this. So far since I went guildless a week ago, I've done this to 3 people. I'm sorry but if you flag on me and die to me, don't come back. I'll then do this to you. 

I wonder how you pull this off withotu finishing them off, tried to pull this one a bit in crescents, but couldn't they would get away withotu those stupid crescents not doing their jump spam attack when i want :S that or either i can't stop the dmg from killing them.

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I wonder how you pull this off withotu finishing them off, tried to pull this one a bit in crescents, but couldn't they would get away withotu those stupid crescents not doing their jump spam attack when i want :S that or either i can't stop the dmg from killing them.

He got lucky because his victims were severely under geared that they shouldn't grind there in the first place.

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I wonder how you pull this off withotu finishing them off, tried to pull this one a bit in crescents, but couldn't they would get away withotu those stupid crescents not doing their jump spam attack when i want :S that or either i can't stop the dmg from killing them.

+1 

 

idk how people manage this

i can get people to 5%, use my rangers grab into the middle of the mob and still they dont die to pve mobs :( 

 

im just gonna level another ranger to kill bombers with no reguard for karma loss 

 

pker actually really enjoy killing people, they just hate the karma loss on their mains.

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+1 

 

idk how people manage this

i can get people to 5%, use my rangers grab into the middle of the mob and still they dont die to pve mobs :( 

 

im just gonna level another ranger to kill bombers with no reguard for karma loss 

 

pker actually really enjoy killing people, they just hate the karma loss on their mains.

you just made th case in favor of the current system design.

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If pkers dont feel the current penalty is penalty enough. They should increase the penalty.

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plz senpai show me how to grind with 130 ap .

I had no trouble with desert fogans at 127 ap before and after awakening. Crescents on the other hand...

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