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BDO Very CPU Demanding? Upgrade?


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Hello.

I have a question for the experts, I m runing bdo in a GTX 970, Intel Core i5 3570K and 12gb RAM and I suffer some stutering and also is very anoyoing to do pvp without any efffects enabled,should I get a better CPU including motherboard or better GPU? I have 450€ of budget

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HDD or SSD?

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HDD 500Gb

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videocard is fine but get a better Cpu

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I was thinking getting an I7 4790K, or is there any better alt?

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I was thinking getting an I7 4790K, or is there any better alt?

if your got a HD, i would be changing that to a SSD, there is nothing wrong with your current hardware, you can run the game just fine with those settings on low to med graphic settings.

 

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the hd is more than likly the issue bdo doesnt like  hdds.  you'll notice a significant performance boost  if it was on a ssd, i have a i5 3570k  as well and had  the same issue when the game first came out till i  moved it over 

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Hello.

I have a question for the experts, I m runing bdo in a GTX 970, Intel Core i5 3570K and 12gb RAM and I suffer some stutering and also is very anoyoing to do pvp without any efffects enabled,should I get a better CPU including motherboard or better GPU? I have 450€ of budget

 

Nothing of both. And if your HDD wasn´t a cold war budget model, then you should be in the clear as well. Modern games do load everything they need in the RAM. Black Desert does so as well. Outsourced data on the HDD was a thing 10 years before (unless you´re playing ArmA 3). But this technique isn´t used anymore since RAM became cheap and big.

The game heavily lacks of any optimization nor customization in terms of settings and that is the real problem. And the game doesn´t even provide a config to tweak the graphics outside the game and I never saw a game doing this and I own more than 500 by now. Your CPU and GPU should be fine. If you still want to buy something new go for a CPU. Your GPU should be strong enough for the next years unless you´re planning to play in 4K. But like I said it´s most likely not your computer it’s the game and I had to try a lot to get it work stable above 60 up to 120 FPS.

 

First thing you can do is, to get the game running in exclusive full-screen mode. By that your desktop won´t get rendered anymore and the cache will be emptied as well in terms of the desktop. I won´t go further into details but on a decend computer this should give you almost as twice as much FPS as you had before. If that´s not enough go on low settings. By this the real-time-shadows get disabled and this saves a lot of FPS as well. And don´t worry, the static shadows are still there, so the game doesn´t look as awful as you might expect. You should be able to leave the rest of the settings high then.

 

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Nothing of both. And if your HDD wasn´t a cold war budget model, then you should be in the clear as well. Modern games do load everything they need in the RAM. Black Desert does so as well. Outsourced data on the HDD was a thing 10 years before (unless you´re playing ArmA 3). But this technique isn´t used anymore since RAM became cheap and big.

The game heavily lacks of any optimization nor customization in terms of settings and that is the real problem. And the game doesn´t even provide a config to tweak the graphics outside the game and I never saw a game doing this and I own more than 500 by now. Your CPU and GPU should be fine. If you still want to buy something new go for a CPU. Your GPU should be strong enough for the next years unless you´re planning to play in 4K. But like I said it´s most likely not your computer it’s the game and I had to try a lot to get it work stable above 60 up to 120 FPS.

 

First thing you can do is, to get the game running in exclusive full-screen mode. By that your desktop won´t get rendered anymore and the cache will be emptied as well in terms of the desktop. I won´t go further into details but on a decend computer this should give you almost as twice as much FPS as you had before. If that´s not enough go on low settings. By this the real-time-shadows get disabled and this saves a lot of FPS as well. And don´t worry, the static shadows are still there, so the game doesn´t look as awful as you might expect. You should be able to leave the rest of the settings high then.

 

haha Cold War HHD model you got me:D

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Hello.

I have a question for the experts, I m runing bdo in a GTX 970, Intel Core i5 3570K and 12gb RAM and I suffer some stutering and also is very anoyoing to do pvp without any efffects enabled,should I get a better CPU including motherboard or better GPU? I have 450€ of budget

I got a 4670k, 970, and ssd's and still get some pretty bad stuttering/fps issues, towns wreck me even on medium.  I thought it might have been my oc not agreeing with this particular game so I put all my gear at default, performed exactly the same, I  think we need some generation jumps sadly.

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Nothing of both. And if your HDD wasn´t a cold war budget model, then you should be in the clear as well. Modern games do load everything they need in the RAM. Black Desert does so as well. Outsourced data on the HDD was a thing 10 years before (unless you´re playing ArmA 3). But this technique isn´t used anymore since RAM became cheap and big.

Hmmm, ya ok bro! you know, lol SSD vs HDD - last time i checked most of these games are within your 10yr time span

The game heavily lacks of any optimization nor customization in terms of settings and that is the real problem. And the game doesn´t even provide a config to tweak the graphics outside the game and I never saw a game doing this and I own more than 500 by now. Your CPU and GPU should be fine. If you still want to buy something new go for a CPU. Your GPU should be strong enough for the next years unless you´re planning to play in 4K. But like I said it´s most likely not your computer it’s the game and I had to try a lot to get it work stable above 60 up to 120 FPS.

 Hmmm, ya again, you can adjust settings outside the games, for NVidia its called NVidia Control Panel for AMD its called AMD Radeon - Try using it some time

First thing you can do is, to get the game running in exclusive full-screen mode. By that your desktop won´t get rendered anymore and the cache will be emptied as well in terms of the desktop. I won´t go further into details but on a decend computer this should give you almost as twice as much FPS as you had before. If that´s not enough go on low settings. By this the real-time-shadows get disabled and this saves a lot of FPS as well. And don´t worry, the static shadows are still there, so the game doesn´t look as awful as you might expect. You should be able to leave the rest of the settings high then.

 

The only one thing you said right though is that FPS has nothing to do with what type of hard drive as its power comes from the GPU.

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I7-6950, Samsung SSD, Nvidia GTX 1080, only 1 month old custom northwest falcon desktop, gets about 10-15 FPS on any crowded City or world boss melee on Slightly high settings.

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I moved my game from my hard drive to my SSD after claims it would boost performance.  A surprise to definitely not me it didn't change even remotely.  Not a single game I've ever put on the SSD has improved framerate.  It's nice that I load NPCs in towns faster (which actually hurts my FPS if I'm just going through them on a horse), and switching characters takes 30 seconds instead of 4 minutes.  But the actual performance change doesn't exist.  My friend who claims he had stuttering problems says they've decreased since changing to SSD.

 

Increasing my CPU (4570k) from 3.4 GHz to 4 GHz is also a zero performance increase.  I did get a significant performance increase going from a GTX 670 to a GTX 1070.  Although with the recent snow update it's like I lost that entire performance increase and I haven't bothered putting my GTX 670 back in to test it nor do I care enough to.

 

I'd say try getting an SSD because it's the cheapest option.  Your CPU and GPU aren't that far off from what you could upgrade to so it's unlikely you'd see much of a boost from those.

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I7-6950, Samsung SSD, Nvidia GTX 1080, only 1 month old custom northwest falcon desktop, gets about 10-15 FPS on any crowded City or world boss melee on Slightly high settings.

Going to guess that's something with your NVIDIA settings or drivers. That seems really low FPS for your hardware.

My setup:

CPU:Intel Core i7-6850K - Running at 4.4GHz
HD: SAMSUNG 950 PRO
RAM: G.SKILL TridentZ Series 64GB DDR4
GPU: 2x 1080 Gaming X Sli

Running on high end I still get 40-50 FPS in cities. Haven't checked Harpy or Zarka in a while, since I haven't done them lately. Everywhere else out in the world is 100+ FPS on high end mode.

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This game lacks optimization. BDO's game engine is to blame since they wanted to make their own "custom" engine. Take Far Cry 4 for example, that game played amazing and had constant frame rate even in the heat of action. Did I mention that games looks a shit ton better than BDO?

You can play with maxed settings (or highest settings that your hardware allows you) when life skilling all day long. As soon as you go do a node/siege wars or go bossing you're going to have crap FPS regardless of settings. That's just the way it is and anyone telling you they are playing just fine at a constant FPS are pretty much life skillers lol. When I walk up to Heidel bank @ 1080P and optimization the FPS still dips down and game looks choppy. I remember one night where everyone waited for tree to spawn since it was the last boss to spawn on a friday night. I remember the game doing 3-4 FPS because it was a big cluster -----.

An SSD will not improve FPS but it will slightly improve the first time loading into BDO from log in, that's usually the longest load time. Other than that when you are in game and changing alt's the game will load just as fast.

My system

Intel 4670K @ 4.8Ghz
GTX 1080 FE
Gigabyte Gaming-3 Z97
Samsung 950 PRO
16GB DDR3

Going to guess that's something with your NVIDIA settings or drivers. That seems really low FPS for your hardware.

My setup:

CPU:Intel Core i7-6850K - Running at 4.4GHz
HD: SAMSUNG 950 PRO
RAM: G.SKILL TridentZ Series 64GB DDR4
GPU: 2x 1080 Gaming X Sli

Running on high end I still get 40-50 FPS in cities. Haven't checked Harpy or Zarka in a while, since I haven't done them lately. Everywhere else out in the world is 100+ FPS on high end mode.

40-50FPS on high in cities with 2 x 1080's really just shows you how poor bdo's optimization is. That's not telling us anything new lol.

 

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The only one thing you said right though is that FPS has nothing to do with what type of hard drive as its power comes from the GPU.

Yup, since he is talking about low FPS.

I never said anything about the speed of a loading screen nor was he. And optimizing your driver doesn´t has something to do with the optimization of the game itself. Since it´s a third party tool you can use to tweak the game which would be unnecessary if the game could do it by itself. And even if you tweak the settings on the driver you won´t have access over the different HBAO methods, nor the shader quality or shadow quality.

But anyways I didn´t mean to insult a doctor in PC-Forum science. I´m just trying to help this guy and you get butthurt because I’ve corrected your fantasy´s on how computers work.

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Yup, since he is talking about low FPS.

I never said anything about the speed of a loading screen nor was he. And optimizing your driver doesn´t has something to do with the optimization of the game itself. Since it´s a third party tool you can use to tweak the game which would be unnecessary if the game could do it by itself. And even if you tweak the settings on the driver you won´t have access over the different HBAO methods, nor the shader quality or shadow quality.

But anyways I didn´t mean to insult a doctor in PC-Forum science. I´m just trying to help this guy and you get butthurt because I’ve corrected your fantasy´s on how computers work.

 

Combatkiller probably messes with nvidia settings vs in game settings and thinks it makes a worlds difference, lmao.

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40-50FPS on high in cities with 2 x 1080's really just shows you how poor bdo's optimization is. That's not telling us anything new lol.

Sad but true. lol.

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BDO will bake any potatoe you have. Best to get something built by NASA in order to play properly 

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Going to guess that's something with your NVIDIA settings or drivers. That seems really low FPS for your hardware.

My setup:

CPU:Intel Core i7-6850K - Running at 4.4GHz
HD: SAMSUNG 950 PRO
RAM: G.SKILL TridentZ Series 64GB DDR4
GPU: 2x 1080 Gaming X Sli

Running on high end I still get 40-50 FPS in cities. Haven't checked Harpy or Zarka in a while, since I haven't done them lately. Everywhere else out in the world is 100+ FPS on high end mode.

Nice rig, but imma take a guess and say you have around a 3 grand if not more rig to run BDO and only get 50 fps in town? Da fuq.

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I5-6600k 4,2 GHz

Sapphire AMD Radeon R9 380 4GB DDR5

MSI Z170A  SLI Plus Mainboard 

16 GB DDR4 Kingston Hyper X 

Kingston SSD 

No Problems with BDO even at Karanda or Kzarka. 

Running the game on Full HD with eveything on except High-End-Mode. 

Outside 50-60 FPS.

Town 30-40 FPS.

Karanda and Kzarka 20-40 FPS. More player lower FPS but the FPS never drops under 20.

 

greetz :) 

 

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Hello.

I have a question for the experts, I m runing bdo in a GTX 970, Intel Core i5 3570K and 12gb RAM and I suffer some stutering and also is very anoyoing to do pvp without any efffects enabled,should I get a better CPU including motherboard or better GPU? I have 450€ of budget

Get in I7 6700k and double up those RAM and buy a SSD 124GB to exclusively use for BDO. i get 100-140fps average on mine ( but i have 2 titan X)

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I havent mentioned it but I m playing 1080p not aiming for 4k, just in case

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BDO doesn't load everything it needs at start, it hammers the HDD non-stop, moving to an SSD makes a huge difference and it's a pretty cheap upgrade too. It also cures a lot of crashes that some people have. Sure it won't improve core FPS but it will improve game play a lot in removing stutters, lag spikes and pop-ins.

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Combatkiller probably messes with nvidia settings vs in game settings and thinks it makes a worlds difference, lmao.

Most likely, Yes. ¬¬

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