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Rolling With Trade Packs on Back an Exploit?

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Is this a bannable offense? Give me your opinion

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Is this a bannable offense? Give me your opinion

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not an exploit

And if Daum bans the ppl that did it this game is dead. 

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No.

They fixed it in a recent Korea patch by simply nerfing the xp for very close trade runs.

No bans to any of the Koreans that did it so it is highly unlikely they will ban in NA.

P.S You're 2 weeks late on crying about this.

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the real meme is Master 2 increased trade money buff. 


Rolling wouldn't be a meme if the master 2 trade buff wasn't beyond insane. 

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No.

They fixed it in a recent Korea patch by simply nerfing the xp for very close trade runs.

No bans to any of the Koreans that did it so it is highly unlikely they will ban in NA.

P.S You're 2 weeks late on crying about this.

I'm crying? Where in my post did I complain about anything? I just want opinions... Jesus 

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About what Exploit are you talking about? :o

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About what Exploit are you talking about? :o

Nothing it's just a relatively fast way to level up trading to get to M2 so you can get the OP desert buff.

You just load yourself up with trade goods and roll using the crouch roll to the nearby farm from the Velia and Heidel trader.

Takes 20-30 hrs of constantly rolling to hit M2 starting from beginner 1 depending on how many buffs you use.

Not really an exploit since all you are doing is using in game mechanics to move trade goods from 1 vendor to another (which is trading is it not?), but it's not obviously intended which is why it got nerfed in KR.

 

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Wait you can roll?
....
....lol, so much to this game i cannot remember....

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Nothing it's just a relatively fast way to level up trading to get to M2 so you can get the OP desert buff.

You just load yourself up with trade goods and roll using the crouch roll to the nearby farm from the Velia and Heidel trader.

Takes 20-30 hrs of constantly rolling to hit M2 starting from beginner 1 depending on how many buffs you use.

Not really an exploit since all you are doing is using in game mechanics to move trade goods from 1 vendor to another (which is trading is it not?), but it's not obviously intended which is why it got nerfed in KR.

 

Is a wagon that much slower than simply rolling?...

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Is a wagon that much slower than simply rolling?...

You fill up your whole inventory and roll.... No wagon with so many slots.

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You fill up your whole inventory and roll.... No wagon with so many slots.

What about weight limit?

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What about weight limit?

I have not tried it myself but from what I understand  that's the reason u roll.

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What about weight limit?

Weight limit caps at 170% so with all p2w weight and Loyalty weight you can get tons of items. You can do multiple trips from velia to the farm and heidel to the farm before your 15min swap is up. Then you swap and repeat.

 

People say it isn't the absolute fastest way but it is pretty fast for minimal effort. Most top players have done it even if solely to make pirates coins worth an absolute fortune.

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Well i would not say top plays have done it some of us really just do the trading and did it the way it was intened to be done and did all the quest and earn ar black sharp and hard from them.

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Weight limit caps at 170% so with all p2w weight and Loyalty weight you can get tons of items. You can do multiple trips from velia to the farm and heidel to the farm before your 15min swap is up. Then you swap and repeat.

 

People say it isn't the absolute fastest way but it is pretty fast for minimal effort. Most top players have done it even if solely to make pirates coins worth an absolute fortune.

master 5 trader here, most ppl got master 2 trading by creating cheap crates before nerf. Aint no one got time for this stupid trick.

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Well i would not say top plays have done it some of us really just do the trading and did it the way it was intened to be done and did all the quest and earn ar black sharp and hard from them.

Sorry but when almost all of Man Up, Gravity, Barcode were rolling at once it is pretty apparent that a large majority of the top players were doing it.

 

If you aren't over 220 AP you aren't a top player either (exceptions for classes with a bad offhand before Nouver. 

 

Undoubtedly there are are people who traded legit but the top guilds made it apparent to their members the importance of doing this before the nerf that Korea has hits our version.

master 5 trader here, most ppl got master 2 trading by creating cheap crates before nerf. Aint no one got time for this stupid trick.

Of course. First wave of m2 traders was the ridiculous exp weekend early in the game. Then it was trash crates before the nerf. The most recent wave was people rolling.

 

You can say that lots of people didn't get m2 that way, and you are probably right, yet I know of 40 people from 1 guild that did within 3 days of each other. Plenty others did in the weeks that led up to the big rush too, most were just lazy until the nerf hit KR and people had to get it done. 

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Nothing it's just a relatively fast way to level up trading to get to M2 so you can get the OP desert buff.

You just load yourself up with trade goods and roll using the crouch roll to the nearby farm from the Velia and Heidel trader.

Takes 20-30 hrs of constantly rolling to hit M2 starting from beginner 1 depending on how many buffs you use.

Not really an exploit since all you are doing is using in game mechanics to move trade goods from 1 vendor to another (which is trading is it not?), but it's not obviously intended which is why it got nerfed in KR.

 

that is the very definition of an exploit lol

 

 

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that is the very definition of an exploit lol

 

 

How? It is an intended in game mechanic to be able to roll whilst overweight. This has been confirmed.

 

It is also an intended in game mechanic to buy trade goods and sell them. It is called trading.

 

Combining then is an exploit? The exp is overtuned, which was addressed in KR recently. There is literally nothing that is an exploit in regards to this method. 

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How? It is an intended in game mechanic to be able to roll whilst overweight. This has been confirmed.

source? 

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source? 

There was a post about this roughly 2 weeks ago where the GM responded that evasive actions whilst overweight is intended. 

If you think moving while overweight is an exploit, well uh...

 

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It is not an intended game mechanic. Also, common sense: If the game slows you down by a normal mechanic, it won't give you the tool to directly bypass it.

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The GMs know about this at this point. I have not seen this addressed by them in any form. It is now on the front page of the forums for all to see. It is not clear that this is unintended gameplay. That being said, if they consider it an exploit and do not want people to do this, then they need to address it now and say "Do not do this".  It is not right for the question to be out there with no answer/response while so many others are doing it, letting players decide whether it is right or wrong and then passing judgement later when they have made a decision after the fact. I've tried it once. It still takes a long time, is no fun and generally a pain. Currently at professional 8 trading through other means. If I can ever find the time or will, I plan on getting master this way.

@GM_Caramel

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It is not an intended game mechanic. Also, common sense: If the game slows you down by a normal mechanic, it won't give you the tool to directly bypass it.

Common sense: If the game gives you a limit on how many items you can put in your inventory it won't give you the tool to bypass it.

 

Oh wait, that whole horse thing that has never been changed.

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Instructional posting.

 

So....if it does happen that this does in fact turn out to be a Kabannable offense don't you think it would be a good idea to NOT have been the one spreading the how-to of it on the forums? Just sayin.

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So....if it does happen that this does in fact turn out to be a Kabannable offense don't you think it would be a good idea to NOT have been the one spreading the how-to of it on the forums? Just sayin.

I'm on an alt account on my phone. Regardless, there are numerous videos made by multiple streamers across this forum and Reddit.

 

Not to mention the videos from the KR population on how to do it, where there were no bans and it wasn't even discussed as an exploit.

 

 

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