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semi-afk-leveling [Guide] semi-Afk leveling as a Witch. it works! 0,007% exp per~ 2 minutes


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I was pretty upset tbh :/

Until the tamer used 1 stun to kill me in 1.5 seconds.
Y'all don't need pets gtfo

Out of saltiness cuz can't kill wiz/witch? Or for the reason that is stated?

Let's be honest here.

Never said Tamer was useless or weak, though there are many threads that make that case. I just find it very odd that the one class that is defined by a pet has a weak walking rug that dies and times out all the time and that lacks even basic AI to be able to attack in a useful way. Meanwhile the Witch/Wiz Pet is immortal and has AI to actually be useful.

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Never said Tamer was useless or weak, though there are many threads that make that case. I just find it very odd that the one class that is defined by a pet has a weak walking rug that dies and times out all the time and that lacks even basic AI to be able to attack in a useful way. Meanwhile the Witch/Wiz Pet is immortal and has AI to actually be useful.

It's not that the AI is useful, it seems a lot like the tamer pet.
Ours can actually kill people on it's own though, and requires no interaction.

But hey i'm all for making tamers onestunbuns viability less and making their pet all sexy and shit.

 

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Why isn't this thread under guides? Or even the witches' and wizard's forum section?

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if I did this right, then this method will take 476 hours from 0% to 100%.with 0.007% pr 2min. regardless if its afk leveling or not, its extremely inefficient. who in their right minds would want to do this? and even if you do this + active grinding, you hardly gain anything at all. just wastes time.

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Wouldn't call this a exploit imho. As it's not using any program or bug in the game to do anything. It's Just standing in an area and letting your pet kill stuff for a rather pathetic XP gain while afk. It would only be an exploit if the person was afk and using a macro/bot/whatever to recast the pet after it disappears.

Even by your own definition it is an exploit.

You mentioned "bug" as one of the qualifications.

There is a "bug" that the pets where lasting more than 30 minutes.

The correct FIX is to reduce the duration of the pets.  It is just very poor game play and does encourage the use of macros/script etc.

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I'm surprised we are 4 pages in and people still see this as some sort of threat.

You can probably gain that much XP AFK fishing and trading said fish in. (prolly not, forgot they removed our trade XP T_T, plz fix my trader is a perma 53 now. so lame)

Either way its no biggie. Better things to do with your AFK time. And if you hate the idea so much just try and flag on ppl you think are AFK. Funny when it doesnt work out so well when people are digging/fishing. People say PVP is the best anti-bot mechanism in games, I disagree. I think its often the most entertaining though.

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I'm surprised we are 4 pages in and people still see this as some sort of threat.

You can probably game that much XP AFK fishing and trading said fish in.

I'm pretty sure that part of the issue is that everyone can AFK fish....

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I'm pretty sure that part of the issue is that everyone can AFK fish....

I mean, in that respect... Everyone can roll the correct class too.

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I'm pretty sure that part of the issue is that everyone can AFK fish....

As many have said already, there are a lot of things that everyone can do that are a better way to spend your afk time. Hell even training horses...

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Even by your own definition it is an exploit.

You mentioned "bug" as one of the qualifications.

There is a "bug" that the pets where lasting more than 30 minutes.

The correct FIX is to reduce the duration of the pets.  It is just very poor game play and does encourage the use of macros/script etc.

I tested the summon timer yesterday and it disappeared after exactly 33 minutes, so that's working as intended (unless you count those 3 extra minutes game breaking).

I don't see any misuse of any bug as part of this. The process is pretty simple, you just summon golem and stand still, that's it. It might not be intended, but I doubt this would be ban-worthy. And as several people have pointed out, it's also a pretty bad way of spending AFK time. I think the only way it's unfair is that Witch and Wizard are the only class who can do this. But even if it were available to all classes, I think you'd only see a small amount of people doing this.

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I tested the summon timer yesterday and it disappeared after exactly 33 minutes, so that's working as intended (unless you count those 3 extra minutes game breaking).

A few things in this game update at 3 min intervals. The login events that are time dependent have a +- of 3 minutes, and your energy. So 3 mins +/- actually makes sense.

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I was curious, so I briefly tested afk leveling as Tamer and it seems to work. Summon Heilang, give him attack order, and he'll keep attacking anyone who attacks you.

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I was curious, so I briefly tested afk leveling as Tamer and it seems to work. Summon Heilang, give him attack order, and he'll keep attacking anyone who attacks you.

Can he actually kill anything?  Besides a random low level mob?

The rest of my comments here are not directed at FluffyQuack...

Just for the record, I never said anything about 'me' being upset, just that I thought that was probably part of why people were.  I wouldn't AFK level (I do have a Witch, thank you)  not because it's inefficient, but because I think it is cheesy.  But I'm not upset about it...either they will fix it or they won't.  My philosopy in video games is always to weigh how much I'm enjoying the game.  This thing has no impact on my enjoyment.

But, in a game like this where any little advantage is something the competitive community is immediately up in arms over, you have to know that anything that is even perceived as an advantage is going to cause an outcry.

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Can he actually kill anything?  Besides a random low level mob?

The rest of my comments here are not directed at FluffyQuack...

Just for the record, I never said anything about 'me' being upset, just that I thought that was probably part of why people were.  I wouldn't AFK level (I do have a Witch, thank you)  not because it's inefficient, but because I think it is cheesy.  But I'm not upset about it...either they will fix it or they won't.  My philosopy in video games is always to weigh how much I'm enjoying the game.  This thing has no impact on my enjoyment.

But, in a game like this where any little advantage is something the competitive community is immediately up in arms over, you have to know that anything that is even perceived as an advantage is going to cause an outcry.

People just salty.
Same as IRL.

Haves vs the have nots.

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I can see people getting banned for this as it's in the gray area of exploit/not exploit. But it's also inefficient as ----- and entirely a waste of time, go AFK on top of the main building at Pirates and you can easily make 5-10% XP overnight if you have guildies grinding the rotation below you all night/day. Shift grind bro, shift grind your way to the high heavens. You just need some Asian grind guildies, and a whole lotta caffeine. 

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Can he actually kill anything?  Besides a random low level mob?

I tested it for 10 minutes at Manes just to see if it would work at all. Does Heilang damage scale with player's AP? If not, then it wouldn't be practical to afk level as Tamer, unless you're low level yourself. 

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I can see people getting banned for this as it's in the gray area of exploit/not exploit. But it's also inefficient as ----- and entirely a waste of time, go AFK on top of the main building at Pirates and you can easily make 5-10% XP overnight if you have guildies grinding the rotation below you all night/day. Shift grind bro, shift grind your way to the high heavens. You just need some Asian grind guildies, and a whole lotta caffeine. 

nobody will get banned for it because it's an ingame mechanic. 

They will get banned if they use a bot /macro to respawn the pet however as that's a clear violation of the EULA

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I tested the summon timer yesterday and it disappeared after exactly 33 minutes, so that's working as intended (unless you count those 3 extra minutes game breaking).

I don't see any misuse of any bug as part of this. The process is pretty simple, you just summon golem and stand still, that's it. It might not be intended, but I doubt this would be ban-worthy. And as several people have pointed out, it's also a pretty bad way of spending AFK time. I think the only way it's unfair is that Witch and Wizard are the only class who can do this. But even if it were available to all classes, I think you'd only see a small amount of people doing this.

There where reports of them lasting for hours.

It's not relevant though, although BDO has afk activities mob hunting should never be one of them.  It's one of those things that you either have a fundamental understand and ideology of it or you don't.

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You guys absolutely suck.

This is why we cannot have nice things.

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I have a Tamer that I used to summon my wolf to AFK at Catfish to farm. I got a warning from one of the GM saying that it was an exploit to farm while AFKing. Never did it again. 

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I have a Tamer that I used to summon my wolf to AFK at Catfish to farm. I got a warning from one of the GM saying that it was an exploit to farm while AFKing. Never did it again. 

and should the Witches/Wizard's get warned not to do it, then it'll be stopped. 

Given that we just have your word to go on and no GM/Mod/Dev response, I'll take the stance of "It's not an exploit until it is". While I won't use it because I'd sooner spend my afk time fishing, some will

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why-do-you-have-to-make-so-much-drama.jp

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Still 57.. what a pleb..

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Nerf is on the way enjoy your new useless pets that die in 2 hits.

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