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kamasilva for 0.1 % of players?


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Tons of video on youtube 60 lvl+ in PEN TET gear getting smashed by single kamasilva mobs.   Players wis stats like  230  340 cant farm in this location. For 58 ldl all mobs is Violet or red........

its mean for normal  players in 18 gear  this location is simpli imposibble if  these  boss geared 19-20 ppl dont fartm that location  

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It just looks like a zone oriented for party play. That's it. 

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well maybe .1% are going to akaman and hysteria right now. So not much is changing. 

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Bj godna a youtuber is doing fine aith 200 ap and around 300 dp as a blader.  Yeah the mobs hit hard,  but they give good trash items in return, up too 20k per piece

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Bj godna a youtuber is doing fine aith 200 ap and around 300 dp as a blader.  Yeah the mobs hit hard,  but they give good trash items in return, up too 20k per piece

None the less, it takes him way to long to kill. Bad efficiency. At least at that new catfish style area. 

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It'll either be nerfed for solo grind or only be intended for parties.  

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All it means is that you either grind in a party there or you go to the now vacated spots that all those lvl 60 PEN/TET gears players were originally till you are that strong

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This is actually something I wanted to address as well.

They said that they were going to focus more on cooperative PVE content in the future, and presumably Kamasylvia was to be the start of this.  So when people say "It's meant to be for parties."  They're probably right.  PA's intention is to make Kamasylvia have people work together (hence the party-required defeat-three-waves-of-enemies system they also added that fewer people talk about).

However, I do think that there are better ways to do this aside from making the enemies so strong.  The enemies' AP itself is certainly an issue.  If they want to make it party-based they can make the enemies tankier like they have, sure, but the AP doesn't need to be cranked up to 11.  And if the enemies require more time to be taken down one-by-one by a party, then they should give exponentially better EXP (and loot, arguably) to make it as worthwhile as a solo grind.

The fact that PA recommends level 58 for Kamasylvia, however, is kind of mindblowing.  It doesn't seem realistic unless you're extremely geared.

Now, we don't know what the Kamasylvia-specific items we have/will have in the future will do.  One adds +3 Kamasylvian enemy damage and that increases per enchant level.  Reasonably, if someone works on enchanting Kamasylvia enemy damage gear, they might become easier to cut through.  What we've mostly seen are streamers showing off their first foray into Kamasylvia, and them not testing out things like the Kamasylvia-intended gear.

Even so, it doesn't seem like +20 Kamasylvian damage would make all that much of a difference, unless it scales differently and isn't just a flat AP boost.  If that's the case, we might be able to invest into Kamasylvian-specific gear like those earrings and it might make things a lot easier on us?  Who knows.

All it means is that you either grind in a party there or you go to the now vacated spots that all those lvl 60 PEN/TET gears players were originally till you are that strong

Essentially this, though.  It will likely do a good job of cleaning out areas full of people who are overgeared for that area.  Kamasylvia is (from what I've seen) better money and better EXP.

But still, investing a ton of time (Kamasylvia is way larger than Calpheon and is coming in 3 parts!) into something that only a very very small percentage of players will ever reach (note, most people will quit before they hit level 60) isn't wise from a publishing standpoint.  If most players are told "Get hyped, but also you can never reach this and will never use it.".  Well... not so good for business.

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git gud gear and party will be top 20% farming the area not 0.1% lol

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Before people complain pve being too easy, now they complain pve is getting too hard.

At least it's an area where you won't see any trolls and plebs around you.

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lol liars everywhere. i just watched someone grind in that new place soloing on twitch.

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lol liars everywhere. i just watched someone grind in that new place soloing on twitch.

It really depends a lot on class!  I watched a witch doing fine, a musa with better gear was struggling, a solo Valk didn't do so well and really had to stick with their group.

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witch is top tier class with awakening. We don't need no group, too stronk4u.

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BDO player: "we want harder PVE" *PA makes harder PVE BDO player: "PVE too hard."

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BDO player: "we want harder PVE" *PA makes harder PVE BDO player: "PVE too hard."

There's a difference between challenging-but-engaging PvE and making mindless grinding more difficult.  However, because I have yet to have personal experience with it I can't say which way it goes.  It might actually be more fun and engaging to work with a group and focus more on group dynamics!

Either way, the 3-waves thing that they did is cool and I'm looking forward to seeing how that works and if they plan to expand on that concept art all.

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Actually this looks like it works way better in groups and was designed that way, the way that they put tons of mobs all around so that everyone can pull max.  I think the problem is that early on people were trying to only solo things or weren't working together well in groups, because these people are cutting through things like crazy—and look at that EXP at level 59. :o

Looks pretty fun, honestly.  Not very "engaging" but still focusing a lot more on party play.

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Maybe they don't want you to solo farm the mobs and actually talk to people to grind in a group. But of course that thought will never cross most people's minds in 2017.

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Maybe they don't want you to solo farm the mobs and actually talk to people to grind in a group. But of course that thought will never cross most people's minds in 2017.

The more recent videos I watch (instead of just day 1 vids where people weren't entirely sure of what to do), the more this seems to be the case.

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MMO's were made for people to interact with each other not to play solo. There are single player games for that, BDO wasn't far though. Good they introduced some party pve content.

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Not everyone is going with the group thingy. Best part of bdo was always that you can do almost everything solo, i need the independence. Not going to look for countless hours for a grind farm or whatever party..

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Regardless if it's for group or solo, we still dont have the same gear as your average Korean dude. This due to lack of p2w and especially certain cash shop items like Combat Book and Valk's Cry&Advice(that can also be acquired from market in KR).

Mobs in our version is also slightly nerfed compared to KR. Hopefully the same goes for this new region, unless they plan to make upgrading gear easier somehow. Not saying it should be faceroll solo-friendly, but a group of normally geared TRI something players should be able to enjoy the area.

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Regardless if it's for group or solo, we still dont have the same gear as your average Korean dude. This due to lack of p2w and especially certain cash shop items like Combat Book and Valk's Cry&Advice(that can also be acquired from market in KR).

Mobs in our version is also slightly nerfed compared to KR. Hopefully the same goes for this new region, unless they plan to make upgrading gear easier somehow. Not saying it should be faceroll solo-friendly, but a group of normally geared TRI something players should be able to enjoy the area.

This. Our version needs tweaking in regards to gaining/enchanting gear if we are going to be able to do the same PVE content, even in parties.

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isint the point of adding new areas to give PROGRESSION? O-o; therefore making it harder, but perfectly doable in groups would..work just fine? whats the issue?

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This. Our version needs tweaking in regards to gaining/enchanting gear if we are going to be able to do the same PVE content, even in parties.

hm what about no?

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hm what about no?

So you DON'T want Valk's Cry? Valk's Advice? 

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witch is top tier class with awakening. We don't need no group, too stronk4u.

top kek. witch is middle tier. nowhere near close to Ranger Sorc, Zerker, or Warrior. above Valk yes. but not in the same league  as the top tier classes.

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