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Hold off on pre-ordering until Daum gives us a clear answer as to the state of the Cash Shop.


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I'm getting some serious dejavu from Overwatch 2 weeks ago.

 

Daum's pre-order announcement today has caused some controversy as to whether the game will be P2W or not and so we should be getting to the bottom of this since despite the box price on the base game, there seem to still be F2P cash shop items like skill resets and stat-bonused costumes that have rolled over from Korea.

 

Some members of the community seem to have the mentality that "we don't know for sure what Daum is planning so how can we assume they are implementing their Korean cash shop". That may be true but the implementation of a P2W cash shop is also a very real possibility.

 

We should not be content to wait for the actual release to find out what Daum has planned. If the Cash Shop has not been changed, how are we supposed to know if any of the P2W aspects of the Korean original were changed.

 

It is UP TO US to be on top of Daum to make it clear that veering towards P2W with a box price is unacceptable both now and in the future. Transparency by the publisher and objective feedback from the community is the key to ensuring the success of this game. Make your voice heard.

 

Most importantly, BE CIVIL. We're asking for transparency, not a revolution. Daum has created a beautiful game and while the community should hold Daum to the B2P philosophy firmly, they should do it respectfully.

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I agree, I would like to have more info on this too. I'm okey with a B2P, but not at all with a P2W.....

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They said cash shot will be only vanity items. They do already released a list. Please keep with the news before posting

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Just wait a bit more. We got to ask question here: http://forum.blackdesertonline.com/index.php?/topic/1241-interview-with-pm_belsazar/ So ask them and wait for a response. I'm pretty sure we'll get a clear picture of what the cash shop will look like after they answer the questions of players, since many players are concerned about it.

Plus, they did state on many occasions that it'll only be vanity items. So, like the cash shop of GW2. Which was vanity items only.

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I already pre-ordered

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They said cash shot will be only vanity items. They do already released a list. Please keep with the news before posting

Cash shop list ? Can you link this one plz ?

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Cash shop list ? Can you link this one plz ?

YEs i will. give me a few hours because atm i am on class xD is not definitive list but kind of items they put

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i really doubt it will be p2w cause korea cash shop isnt really even p2w, i mean ya you can sell the cash shop items on the ah, but the prices they go for are easily obtainable even by casual players. i really like the way they did it. and korea is f2p and eu and na are b2p so it can only get better from there really.

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i really doubt it will be p2w cause korea cash shop isnt really even p2w, i mean ya you can sell the cash shop items on the ah, but the prices they go for are easily obtainable even by casual players. i really like the way they did it. and korea is f2p and eu and na are b2p so it can only get better from there really.

When was the last time you played the korean version. Ye at the start it was a reasonable price for a costume 4-7mil per costume that was about 1-2 hours of grind but not hey are 50mil which is about 7-8 hours of grind without counting the rare drops you getting. It all comes down to who will controll the prices of the costumes and how fair they do it.

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When was the last time you played the korean version. Ye at the start it was a reasonable price for a costume 4-7mil per costume that was about 1-2 hours of grind but not hey are 50mil which is about 7-8 hours of grind without counting the rare drops you getting. It all comes down to who will controll the prices of the costumes and how fair they do it.

7-8 hours in a week is pretty casual if your playing like an hour a day, most people i know play near 3+ a day and the hardcore players like myself play near 8+ everyday. its not hard to get what you want

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7-8 hours in a week is pretty casual if your playing like an hour a day, most people i know play near 3+ a day and the hardcore players like myself play near 8+ everyday. its not hard to get what you want

ye but comparison to people who just put money in and sell items you can't catch up to them even if you try to and also our version will not have spending limit comparison to kr even though that didn't help much it still limited it for some people. Also the game is heavily gear based so if you want to be competitive you never going to be able to catch up to them.

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I do not think this is a payed to win game... I seen Korean version and the cash shop. Not paied to win at all it's more cosmetics and making your self look pretty there no buff from cloths except the horse might get a speed buff that's it if you wanna see pay to when look at Tera lol and time you gotta grind for months to get something and about time you get it the next patch already comes out and your fuck and the people who already got items at beginning of patch bought all item buy selling items from the cash shop or buying buffs charms what ever it take to be top before anyone else so far black desert trading is lock so no trading mean no payed to win you may have a fast horse but that doesn't help your skill level or improve your combat which that's not payed to win

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It only makes sense that people who don't play as much can't compete with those who no-life it. Doesn't bother me :)  But I always have realistic expectations of online games particularly competitive ones.

If I want to be at the top of the food chain I play single player games. When I don't mind being a filthy casual I play online games :) I don't really care who has what, who is better or has the best gear. That isn't part of the fun for me. I'm there for the experience. And you can have fun even without the bestest gear or the biggest guild.

I don't keep up with the jones. That isn't fun to me.

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It only makes sense that people who don't play as much can't compete with those who no-life it. Doesn't bother me :)  But I always have realistic expectations of online games particularly competitive ones.

If I want to be at the top of the food chain I play single player games. When I don't mind being a filthy casual I play online games :) I don't really care who has what, who is better or has the best gear. That isn't part of the fun for me. I'm there for the experience. And you can have fun even without the bestest gear or the biggest guild.

I don't keep up with the jones. That isn't fun to me.

xD true but I don't think it's a competitions more like some players are more lay back and just here for the ride ^^ I'm more here for and adventure then to heavy grind like other games black desert has a more role play style then to be heavy on gear and crap :> the packs that's are up is a nice piece for us girls to go sims crazy decorating houses! And buying maid dress on cash shop so the packages is a nice touch for the cosmetic fans 

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I do not think this is a payed to win game... I seen Korean version and the cash shop. Not paied to win at all it's more cosmetics and making your self look pretty there no buff from cloths except the horse might get a speed buff that's it if you wanna see pay to when look at Tera lol and time you gotta grind for months to get something and about time you get it the next patch already comes out and your fuck and the people who already got items at beginning of patch bought all item buy selling items from the cash shop or buying buffs charms what ever it take to be top before anyone else so far black desert trading is lock so no trading mean no payed to win you may have a fast horse but that doesn't help your skill level or improve your combat which that's not payed to win

If you can sell cash shop Items for crazy money and use that crazy money to fund easy high gear, it is p2w, considering how pvp this is.

 

To avoid p2w:

1: Account bound cash shop items

2: Cash shop items give no stat advantages

3: Cannot sell cash shop items for ludicrous amounts of ingame money.

Do not cry out with the counterargument, "b-but they can't make any money like that!" There are other games that solely rely on cosmetics and they do WAY more than fine.

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I'm getting some serious dejavu from Overwatch 2 weeks ago.

 

Daum's pre-order announcement today has caused some controversy as to whether the game will be P2W or not and so we should be getting to the bottom of this since despite the box price on the base game, there seem to still be F2P cash shop items like skill resets and stat-bonused costumes that have rolled over from Korea.

 

Some members of the community seem to have the mentality that "we don't know for sure what Daum is planning so how can we assume they are implementing their Korean cash shop". That may be true but the implementation of a P2W cash shop is also a very real possibility.

 

We should not be content to wait for the actual release to find out what Daum has planned. If the Cash Shop has not been changed, how are we supposed to know if any of the P2W aspects of the Korean original were changed.

 

It is UP TO US to be on top of Daum to make it clear that veering towards P2W with a box price is unacceptable both now and in the future. Transparency by the publisher and objective feedback from the community is the key to ensuring the success of this game. Make your voice heard.

 

Most importantly, BE CIVIL. We're asking for transparency, not a revolution. Daum has created a beautiful game and while the community should hold Daum to the B2P philosophy firmly, they should do it respectfully.

Can you also not preorder till after CBT1 so the servers are less crowded?

 

Regards from all the people who want to support them game :)

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Can you also not preorder till after CBT1 so the servers are less crowded?

 

Regards from all the people who want to support them game :)

You misunderstood.

 

We want to support these developers. But we actually know what matters. Our wallets. We are voting with our wallets. If the information comes out and it isn't up to par with us, they will be impacted more if there is no purchase. 

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theres absolutely no point of preordering so early or on day one if it stays all the way up to release

 

everyone who did is probably a spoiled first world kid or if not a kid then a casual working class retard

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everyone who did is probably a spoiled first world kid or if not a kid then a casual working class retard

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theres absolutely no point of preordering so early or on day one if it stays all the way up to release

 

everyone who did is probably a spoiled first world kid or if not a kid then a casual working class retard

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is this more of a "hold off on pre-ordering the game because I cant" sorta thing? or are you strangers on the internet legitimately concerned about another strangers budget?

I know misery loves company and if I had to guess, i'd say this is more of a "cant preorder the game so Im going to masquerade this as taking a stance on something completely trivial"  type deal.

i mean, lets not spend money on a game that we have to eventually buy to play anyway before we know what the cash shop may have in it 12 months from now seems very logical.. #not

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theres absolutely no point of preordering so early or on day one if it stays all the way up to release

 

everyone who did is probably a spoiled first world kid or if not a kid then a casual working class retard

or maybe just someone with a job ?
you are a troll.

get out of your mom's basement sometimes.

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The guy who made bns na cash shop is also making bdos cash shop. I guess this can help

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is this more of a "hold off on pre-ordering the game because I cant" sorta thing? or are you strangers on the internet legitimately concerned about another strangers budget?

I know misery loves company and if I had to guess, i'd say this is more of a "cant preorder the game so Im going to masquerade this as taking a stance on something completely trivial"  type deal.

i mean, lets not spend money on a game that we have to eventually buy to play anyway before we know what the cash shop may have in it 12 months from now seems very logical.. #not

loved the first part. So true. I mean mind ur own goddamn business right? 

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xD yeah! Love this image lol

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