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+15 Green failtack nerf\bug\scam? WTF?

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I just made 23 pieces of +15 Grunil an abut 10 sub weapons before ever hitting 15 stacks.... RNGesus my ass. This is some sort of blackstone dump scam market control BS. Enough of this crap already. God damn it.

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And i made 20-25 FS using the same method today

Rng be RNG

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Yet I made 3x 30-40 Failstacks with a blue +13 awakening today. When I wanted to upgrade it. 

Russled  my jimmies. 

 

Guess you just got too lucky with  upgrading or unlucky creating fs. 

Also got multiple 25fs on green fortune gloves earlier

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I once hit 34 failstacks just trying to get to +12 on some green agerian

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And i made 20-25 FS using the same method today

Rng be RNG

In that case there is some kind of account based scam going on. I tried changing channels restarting the game.. same result. Perhaps it knows i have a 117 stack failing TET or something. THis isnt normal

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Yet I made 3x 30-40 Failstacks with a blue +13 awakening today. When I wanted to upgrade it. 

Russled  my jimmies. 

 

Guess you just got too lucky with  upgrading or unlucky creating fs. 

Also got multiple 25fs on green fortune gloves earlier

Well thats different.  Green Grunil goes up super easy compared to liverto/blue awakening.

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Well thats different.  Green Grunil goes up super easy compared to liverto/blue awakening.

Not exactly easy, it used to be very possible to get a 25 stack of grunil than it became more like 18-20 and now i cant even get 15 stacks.

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Not exactly easy, it used to be very possible to get a 25 stack of grunil than it became more like 18-20 and now i cant even get 15 stacks.

Back when Grunil first came out ya it was hard.  Now im lucky to get fail stacks on it above 25... ive gotten TRI and TET more than I care to admit trying to get higher stacks off of them.

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I don't use pre 15 Grunil for fs.. And with fortune, Hercules might items I get to 25 fs most of the time. On +14 items that is

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what did i just read

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28 fails for tet alchemy now...

earning silver like hell...

burning silver like no tomorrow...

but it suxx

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I dont go over 15 fail stack with any green items 

 

black stones are too hard to come by these days 

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*cough*

rng seed

*cough*

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Well thats different.  Green Grunil goes up super easy compared to liverto/blue awakening.

Unless you are actually trying to upgrade it. 

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RNG knows and see all, who are we to question its Mathematical greatness?

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I suspect - and someone should really test this in some scientific way - that RNG in BDO isn't actually determined by a random number generator as assumed. I believe it may be tied to some sort of atmospheric data, time of day, or something else in its algorithm. The reason I think this is that I find that there are times when I have extremely good results when enchanting - like getting to +15 consistently with less than 5 fails, and all the others before that with similarly low failure rates. There are also times when I have extremely bad results and just fail fail fail consistently - I could try to PRI something with a 40FS (which I don't make a habit of doing, mind you) and it would fail 5, maybe 6 times, before I'd just give up.

It's definitely not completely random. There's some kind of algorithm, and it gets screwed up sometimes and throws less randomized results. I don't know what it is but I don't think it's server-wide. It must be generated per-character or per-account, or something.

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As Asata has pointed out, BDO doesnt even have true RNG. They probably use some kind of shitty algorithm to determine wether you are eligible for a successful enchant or not.

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For science.

 

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Just yesterday 20 and 23 FS on Green +13 so really just RNG :).

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I regularly make 25 fs on green gear.

I noticed i fail more if i swop between armor and weapons around every 6 fails (probably tinfoil hat but works for me).

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RNG is a method of creating an addiction just like gambling.  In the end, all roads lead to the cash shop in this game.

Edited by LordLeshil

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I suspect - and someone should really test this in some scientific way - that RNG in BDO isn't actually determined by a random number generator as assumed. I believe it may be tied to some sort of atmospheric data, time of day, or something else in its algorithm. The reason I think this is that I find that there are times when I have extremely good results when enchanting - like getting to +15 consistently with less than 5 fails, and all the others before that with similarly low failure rates. There are also times when I have extremely bad results and just fail fail fail consistently - I could try to PRI something with a 40FS (which I don't make a habit of doing, mind you) and it would fail 5, maybe 6 times, before I'd just give up.

It's definitely not completely random. There's some kind of algorithm, and it gets screwed up sometimes and throws less randomized results. I don't know what it is but I don't think it's server-wide. It must be generated per-character or per-account, or something.

oh, but it IS completely random. If it wasnt random, people would be dull pen armor weapons and accessories, because someone by now would have figured it out. You are creating drama and trying to find patterns in something that just isn't there.

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I suspect - and someone should really test this in some scientific way - that RNG in BDO isn't actually determined by a random number generator as assumed. I believe it may be tied to some sort of atmospheric data, time of day, or something else in its algorithm. The reason I think this is that I find that there are times when I have extremely good results when enchanting - like getting to +15 consistently with less than 5 fails, and all the others before that with similarly low failure rates. There are also times when I have extremely bad results and just fail fail fail consistently - I could try to PRI something with a 40FS (which I don't make a habit of doing, mind you) and it would fail 5, maybe 6 times, before I'd just give up.

It's definitely not completely random. There's some kind of algorithm, and it gets screwed up sometimes and throws less randomized results. I don't know what it is but I don't think it's server-wide. It must be generated per-character or per-account, or something.

Yep i suspect exactly the same.... people that are still spamming RNG nonsense simply dont enchant enough to see these patterns.

oh, but it IS completely random. If it wasnt random, people would be dull pen armor weapons and accessories, because someone by now would have figured it out. You are creating drama and trying to find patterns in something that just isn't there.

And there are people that make TRI/TET Ogre rings like nothing. Perhaps you are just too ignorant to see it.

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I just made 23 pieces of +15 Grunil an abut 10 sub weapons before ever hitting 15 stacks.... RNGesus my ass. This is some sort of blackstone dump scam market control BS. Enough of this crap already. God damn it.

and im getting like 25 ~ 28 failstacks off +14 rebar gloves (white)

Edited by Endurance

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Game is rigged, feels guuud :D 
 

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