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Trading EXP

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Hi all,

I was wondering about trade exp. Do you get trading exp from each individual trade item or just by the "single event of trading" with the trade manager? Is it better to trade items individually or to sell your entire inventory all at once?  Also do you get more exp for trading if the item comes from further away? I'm not as interested in the money part, just the exp information. So anything more you have have experience with in gaining more exp for trading would be helpful. Thank you!

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Hi all,

I was wondering about trade exp. Do you get trading exp from each individual trade item or just by the "single event of trading" with the trade manager? Is it better to trade items individually or to sell your entire inventory all at once?  Also do you get more exp for trading if the item comes from further away? I'm not as interested in the money part, just the exp information. So anything more you have have experience with in gaining more exp for trading would be helpful. Thank you!

I don't really know if there's any difference between selling all inventory or selling item by item. I don't think so, but you can try it easily.

About getting the more exp and the distance... If you are interested in max exp only, buy all the items that you can in a node, then move to the next one, sell everything and buy everything that you can again, and so on. It's by far better than long routes where you spent 30 min+ and only sell full inventory once.

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Distance doesn't effect exp, neither does profit.

You get exp for each item you sell, if you sell all your items at once you still get exp for each individual item if that makes sense.

Crates and trade goods dropped by mobs don't give as much exp as trade goods bought from npc.

Make sure nodes are connected between origin of item and where you sell.

Good luck

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Thank you all for the help and information! Cheers!

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Okay. As of right now before its nerfed. NPC item exp is by abundance the more you can trade in the more you get thats why the backpack and dive method is so popular right now after the nerf you will have to go at least 500m or have exp nerfed. Dropped trade items have been nerfed in exp hard but they are still distance based 100k coins can get you master 2, 3 weeks of pirates. Worker made crates are now distanced based these have been nerfed from previously where you could trade in 27k crates within the same town for master2. Now if you were to trade about 30k crates from calph to arehaza it'd almost ALMOST be the same exp as before.

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Distance doesn't effect exp, neither does profit.

You get exp for each item you sell, if you sell all your items at once you still get exp for each individual item if that makes sense.

Crates and trade goods dropped by mobs don't give as much exp as trade goods bought from npc.

Make sure nodes are connected between origin of item and where you sell.

Good luck

are you sure? 

 

Pretty sure they changed that and made exp scale with distance

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are you sure? 

 

Pretty sure they changed that and made exp scale with distance

In KR they made it so you get reduced exp of the distance between an item's origin and sell point is less than 500m.

We do not have this yet in NA/EU

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Distance doesn't effect exp, neither does profit.

You get exp for each item you sell, if you sell all your items at once you still get exp for each individual item if that makes sense.

Crates and trade goods dropped by mobs don't give as much exp as trade goods bought from npc.

Make sure nodes are connected between origin of item and where you sell.

Good luck

Distance does effect exp now.  It makes a really big difference.

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Distance doesn't effect exp, neither does profit.

You get exp for each item you sell, if you sell all your items at once you still get exp for each individual item if that makes sense.

Crates and trade goods dropped by mobs don't give as much exp as trade goods bought from npc.

Make sure nodes are connected between origin of item and where you sell.

Good luck

Distance does effect exp. Do u even read patch notes?

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 Worker made crates are now distanced based these have been nerfed from previously where you could trade in 27k crates within the same town for master2. Now if you were to trade about 30k crates from calph to arehaza it'd almost ALMOST be the same exp as before.

I have tested it with a small (500) amount of iron ore crates. Calph -> Heidel is less xp then Calph -> Arehaza.

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From a technical point of view Hall is wrong but distance bonus xp doesn't matter for power trade leveling. Is all about quantity.

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Trading is so confusing to me urgh, can I just roll from Velia to Finto Farm?

and what Trade Item should I buy? Does it not matter what? 

 

Also, is it better for me to save all my crates until after this nerf comes? I mean, will I get more EXP taking them from Epheria to Valencia BEFORE or AFTER this upcoming change?

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Trading is so confusing to me urgh, can I just roll from Velia to Finto Farm?

and what Trade Item should I buy? Does it not matter what? 

 

Also, is it better for me to save all my crates until after this nerf comes? I mean, will I get more EXP taking them from Epheria to Valencia BEFORE or AFTER this upcoming change?

Velia to Finto till Prof5. Take elephant and buy all items. Trade xp is mostly calculated in items traded per channel switch (15 min?).

Velia to Finto 101 items. You can add Belenos,Bartail and Marino farms for additional 30 items/switch.

Calpheon elephant round is 178 items/switch and more money (nothing to write home about but money is money :) )

 

Crate selling isn't effected by the nerf. I save my 20k iron ore crates for the time after.

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What i'm most curious about is does pack level affect exp. In my limited experience it doesn't..

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Velia to Finto till Prof5. Take elephant and buy all items. Trade xp is mostly calculated in items traded per channel switch (15 min?).

Velia to Finto 101 items. You can add Belenos,Bartail and Marino farms for additional 30 items/switch.

Calpheon elephant round is 178 items/switch and more money (nothing to write home about but money is money :) )

 

Crate selling isn't effected by the nerf. I save my 20k iron ore crates for the time after.

If I am pro6 how many crates would it take me to get master2 if I traded Heidel ----> altinova?

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Its almost like none of you listen to your NPC's. o.O

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Velia to Finto till Prof5. Take elephant and buy all items. Trade xp is mostly calculated in items traded per channel switch (15 min?).

Velia to Finto 101 items. You can add Belenos,Bartail and Marino farms for additional 30 items/switch.

Calpheon elephant round is 178 items/switch and more money (nothing to write home about but money is money :) )

 

Crate selling isn't effected by the nerf. I save my 20k iron ore crates for the time after.

For leveling trading to Master 2, how many nodes of Ores connected around Calpheon do you recommend? I'm only at 180 CP but I'd like to start leveling it.  Or do you think buying everything in Velia and going to Finto would be better XP to Master 2?

Also, just for leveling it, do you recommend selling it Ancado (since you can just ship the crates from Calph > Epheria > Ancado)? Or do you recommend running them all the way to Arehaza?

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I have tested it with a small (500) amount of iron ore crates. Calph -> Heidel is less xp then Calph -> Arehaza.

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From a technical point of view Hall is wrong but distance bonus xp doesn't matter for power trade leveling. Is all about quantity.

Yup, that's what I said. if you're going by NPC trade items it's about quantity. If you're going manmade items such as crates it's distanced based. You will get far less exp heidel>arehaza as you would calpheon>arehaza. The difference you will see is when you use all 7 life skill exp buffs.

Trading is so confusing to me urgh, can I just roll from Velia to Finto Farm?

and what Trade Item should I buy? Does it not matter what? 

 

Also, is it better for me to save all my crates until after this nerf comes? I mean, will I get more EXP taking them from Epheria to Valencia BEFORE or AFTER this upcoming change?

Do it. Do it now. Trade clothes fail stack 2 at 0 stacks to get +1 do this 3-4 times. Then use those 3 at 10-15 stacks to get +2 trade clothes. Eat food buff get 15% elixir. Now if you have an elephant you can do the calpheon loop which is much better(25% an hour at master2). OR if you dont have an elephant with instant accel. Just dive I have max LT so what I do is velia to finto then velia to south farms and run in a circle to loggia then back to velia. This will give you about 10-12%. At Artisan you are looking at 90min per level. They are going to nerf this soon. It's boring as f*** so get some good music on or watch some good anime while you autorun through fields to next trader

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Wow, lots of great questions and information. Thank you all for the Trading EXP info!

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If I am pro6 how many crates would it take me to get master2 if I traded Heidel ----> altinova?

NPC crates or crafted? NPC isn't worth your time.

For crafted crates distance(more distance more xp) is most important. Don't sell in altinova. Take it all the way to arehaza for max distance. It takes ~40k crates from calph -> arehaza to level from zero to Master2. I think you need 20k-30k Heidel crates to do this.

For leveling trading to Master 2, how many nodes of Ores connected around Calpheon do you recommend? I'm only at 180 CP but I'd like to start leveling it.  Or do you think buying everything in Velia and going to Finto would be better XP to Master 2?

Also, just for leveling it, do you recommend selling it Ancado (since you can just ship the crates from Calph > Epheria > Ancado)? Or do you recommend running them all the way to Arehaza?

You don't have to connect your ore notes to Calph. Transport ore yourself (how to) .I have 7 iron notes active atm.

Velia -> Finto Master 2 is much much faster. I did Master2 in 8 days from beginner 1 :)

Don't do Warehouse transportation. You cant mass transport and it cost a lot money. Its possible to stack ~7k crates on a horse. Do this and go Calpheon -> Arehaza. Don't forget to get life skill xp buffs!

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