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So someone who used P2W just passed me??

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I had tri and tet gear before i left, came back a few months later for new content and woah there, im ahead of people who have been playing for months, only thing i ever payed for was pets..........

 

Totally P2W

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It's very sad that people compare "P2W" in WoW to P2W in BDO. PVP in WoW has equalized gear.

BDO on the other hand is all about PVP, all about gear. Gear is this games "end-game", there's nothing more into it. Using money WILL get you an advantage in this games PVP, simple as that.

sure in pvp its equalized but buying gold and buying a  spot in mythic riad or just flat out buying boe raid gear from ah isnt p2w ? 

most peope also dontplay wow for its pvp, raiding is what people aim for so comparing wows pvp to bdo pvp is like apples and oranges 

gear is also wows end game, hence mythic raiding, using money WILL get you an advantage in wows end game pve, simple as that.

All mmos are about gear, whether its pvp or pve.

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p2w op plz half silver value of pearl store items to kill off them op whales.

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It's a shame this games community went insane over pearls - > silver on marketplace and DEMANDED such insane restrictions, having no idea that being able to buy 100% of cash shop items with in game currency by PLAYING the game is the complete opposite of pay to win. It's also a shame that same community was going to quit the game either way and were just trolling/whining and not worth listening so. So now we have a very obvious pay to win game due to all these restrictions by listening to players who were going to quit anyways and weren't worth caring about.

 

Imagine how much less pay to win this game would be if you could buy artisan memories off the marketplace for silver? Or any pearl shop item? How about no weekly limit on pearl shop items so that the marketplace supply would meet the demand and people could happily have pets, costumes, mounts, outfits, and artisans memories to their hearts content without having to pay a single penny?

 

It's a shame.

 

Please remove the 5 weekly limit on pearl  - > marketplace items and allow 100% of pearl items to be sold on the marketplace. Also enable gift for silver COD to every pearl item so you can "trade" anyone for pearl items if you wish to. This will make the publisher more revenue and every type of player happier and GREATLY reduce the pay to win aspect of this game.

 

Please strongly consider this.

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Yet another college kid using school as an excuse not to get out there and work some hours. What a shame...

 yet another fat fuk using the emperialist/colonialist history of his country as an excuse to make false assumptions on other people's life, collage kid? I wonder if you could survive the life I am dealing with more than a month, maybe you should grow up yourself a little before calling me kid, sorry to inform you but not all around the world "collage kids" are well paid as in your country, I have to be in the uni from 08:00 till 16:00 5-6 days a week, so no, I am not studying "economics", after that all I can do is to work in a half day job, but I prefer to study, sorry to not satisfy your expectations from "collage kids", I should have worked in the rest of the day, and get paid 150-200 € a month, then Mr. Thehardworkingfat----- would appreciate my dedication to system that I am living in, which is probably the result of the fact that some countries exist just to create more income and resource for bigger countries in which collage kids can pay for online games.

 

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I have to be in the uni from 08:00 till 16:00 5-6 days a week

You CHOSE to do this though, why should a game be force to change to meet YOUR needs? If you don't have time for a MMO or it's making your "difficult" life so impossible then maybe stick to single player games? You also shouldn't say "I wonder if you could survive the life I am dealing with more than a month" when the next sentence says "I go to uni". You're a lot more privileged that most of humanity, what on earth could be difficult for you, you have to take the bus or walk to university? :) 

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Wow, so many great points being made as to why someone can pay to completely bypass months of work yet at the same time not being p2w o.O

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You CHOSE to do this though, why should a game be force to change to meet YOUR needs? If you don't have time for a MMO or it's making your "difficult" life so impossible then maybe stick to single player games? You also shouldn't say "I wonder if you could survive the life I am dealing with more than a month" when the next sentence says "I go to uni". You're a lot more privileged that most of humanity, what on earth could be difficult for you, you have to take the bus or walk to university? :) 

and you chose to read only what you want acknowledge, i am living in EU and getting payed 150-200€ if i work 4 hours a day, you don't see that as a problem but the problem is the subject I chose to study? Yeah I am not living in Somalia, oh thanks to lord, to uk, to usa I am more privileged than most of humanity, and when you ask "what on earth can be difficult for you?" it just shows that you are as ignorant and arrogant as the previous idiot that I answered for, what made you jump in to this conversation anyway I don't know, you felt butthurt? In the mentality of people like you, nobody on earth should have any problems because it can always get worse, oh how holly how great way of thinking, lets just accept what we are and what they are and just keep working in the same manner, no need to complain because there is worse. I bet you watch those mainstream inspiration porns on fb everyday, watching disabled people doing physically demanding tasks, watching hungry kids going to school, and with teary eyes thinking "ugghhhoho what is your excuse" ( mouth filled with crap you bought from consumer heaven supermarket in your street )

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ugghhhoho what is your excuse"

Well, what is your excuse? You're earning 50 euros an hour, pretty sure that's more than I make. :) 

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Well, what is your excuse? You're earning 50 euros an hour, pretty sure that's more than I make. :) 

I think you misunderstood . If he works 4 hours a day he gets paid 150-200 euro a month , that's a pretty crappy wage per hour 

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 yet another fat fuk using the emperialist/colonialist history of his country as an excuse to make false assumptions on other people's life, collage kid? I wonder if you could survive the life I am dealing with more than a month, maybe you should grow up yourself a little before calling me kid, sorry to inform you but not all around the world "collage kids" are well paid as in your country, I have to be in the uni from 08:00 till 16:00 5-6 days a week, so no, I am not studying "economics", after that all I can do is to work in a half day job, but I prefer to study, sorry to not satisfy your expectations from "collage kids", I should have worked in the rest of the day, and get paid 150-200 € a month, then Mr. Thehardworkingfat----- would appreciate my dedication to system that I am living in, which is probably the result of the fact that some countries exist just to create more income and resource for bigger countries in which collage kids can pay for online games.

 

I'm sure I could survive the life you are living for well over a month. I've been deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan each tour lasting 12 months. I doubt your life is any worse than living in those areas lol. Sorry you are struggling, but don't use that as a crutch. If life is really that bad maybe you shouldn't be spending time playing video games. Spend a little more time working to better you life :D.

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I'm sure I could survive the life you are living for well over a month. I've been deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan each tour lasting 12 months. I doubt your life is any worse than living in those areas lol. Sorry you are struggling, but don't use that as a crutch. If life is really that bad maybe you shouldn't be spending time playing video games. Spend a little more time working to better you life :D.

Spending 8h a day 5-6 days a week at uni sounds like something one might do to better ones future. Just a tought.

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I'm sure I could survive the life you are living for well over a month. I've been deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan each tour lasting 12 months. I doubt your life is any worse than living in those areas lol. Sorry you are struggling, but don't use that as a crutch. If life is really that bad maybe you shouldn't be spending time playing video games. Spend a little more time working to better you life :D.

oh don't give me the veteran crap no thank you, yeah I am talking about this kind of mentality @Plunge, go find a room with this guy you will make the bdo great again The reason why those places are -----ed up is because of your country and still you are using those places as an inspiration porn for your pathetic " why you should never complain about the system that works for us but not for you"  idea.

I think you misunderstood . If he works 4 hours a day he gets paid 150-200 euro a month , that's a pretty crappy wage per hour 

it is  "if they can not find bread, let them eat cake" situation. In his mind that money directly appeared as "per day wage".

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oh don't give me the veteran crap no thank you, yeah I am talking about this kind of mentality @Plunge, go find a room with this guy you will make the bdo great again The reason why those places are -----ed up is because of your country and still you are using those places as an inspiration porn for your pathetic " why you should never complain about the system that works for us but not for you"  idea.

it is  "if they can not find bread, let them eat cake" situation. In his mind that money directly appeared as "per day wage".

Lol, You don't have it bad. I've conversed/spent time with people who have it bad. People living in homes made of mud,straw, and tar. Also, I'm sure your schooling was paid for 100% by your parents. Quit living in denial, you believing you have a rough life is only holding you back.

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The reason why those places are -----ed up is because of your country and still you are using those places as an inspiration porn for your pathetic

Jesus Christ, I'm sorry if this sounds rude but do you have a mental illness at all? I've never seen someone have such a victim complex outside of Tumblr. You're on the internet and have enough free time that you can play a video game for extended periods of time. You cannot use the "my life is terrible" or "I struggle, you don't know my life!" argument. Please grow up, or seek professional medical help. :) 

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BDO has gotten new P2W aspects almost every patch, and it is not going to stop. Artisans memories I consider the worst, since it has no limit, and you can literally make silver with those. Besides enchanting your own gear.

Funny how people always said Korean BDO was P2W, when they have 300$ monthly limit on cash shop items due to their law. And what we have here? No limit.

Have you spend some time to calculate the formula a player can make with lets say 100E ? compare it with another dude who is selling 3 costumes. 

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Lol, You don't have it bad. I've conversed/spent time with people who have it bad. People living in homes made of mud,straw, and tar. Also, I'm sure your schooling was paid for 100% by your parents. Quit living in denial, you believing you have a rough life is only holding you back.

not everywhere is usa lol go read something, in europe uni is for free (almost), and no thanks I am not gonna take serious this "I am the wise life coach" bullshit. 

Jesus Christ, I'm sorry if this sounds rude but do you have a mental illness at all? I've never seen someone have such a victim complex outside of Tumblr. You're on the internet and have enough free time that you can play a video game for extended periods of time. You cannot use the "my life is terrible" or "I struggle, you don't know my life!" argument. Please grow up, or seek professional medical help. :) 

I am not playing the game for some time now, I have time to teach "oh we know everything better" idiots like you about the reality of rest of the world, and that you have no right to tell people things like "get a job", "college kid" or other crap moving in your minds. Since it is finals, and I have to sit and study all day, doesn't take much time to open the forum and write stuff, it is even good actually it burns my brains to focus on same thing more than 1-2 hours, so thanks for your existence who ever the ----- you are. You don't know my life, it is a fact as solid as math, I am old enough to explain you real stuff which obviously you have no idea about, unless you are like.. I don't know 60 or something? and I am the  medical help but not yet professional, so no need to seek really even in case I need it.

It is definitely not fair to apply same prices for a country where lowest wage is 2000 € and another one with 300€ a month and not call this p2w, now go ----- yourself if you know better and you have something to say for this, because I am not gonna try to explain you again, when there are 2 numbers, one of them is 6 something times the other one. 

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I am not playing the game for some time now,

So why are you on the forums whining?

I have time to teach "oh we know everything better" idiots

Awww, did I trigger you? :) 

like you about the reality of rest of the world

Pretty sure you know nothing about the world when you're whining on the forums of a game about not having enough time to play. You cry when people talk about the US or UK, but then ignore other countries less fortunate than your own. You have access to the internet, to education, to electricity and you're playing the "woe is me game" because you can't play your video game? Awwww, poor you. :) 

, and that you have no right to tell people things like "get a job", "college kid" or other crap moving in your minds.

Haven't told you to get a job or even called you a "college" kid, but perhaps you should spend more time in full time education as you seem to have a comprehension issue. :) 

Since it is finals, and I have to sit and study all day,

So why are you on the forums?

doesn't take much time to open the forum and write stuff,

This is in direction contradiction to your previous statement. Also, since you're crying about the game why not spend the time you would whining on the forum playing the game instead? :) 

it is even good actually it burns my brains to focus on same thing more than 1-2 hours,

You should really elarn how to manage your time better. :) 

so thanks for your existence who ever the ----- you are.

I'm Plunge, glad you enjoy my existence. :) 

You don't know my life, it is a fact as solid as math,

I do know your life, you're crying about not having enough time to play a video game and then using the "my life is terrible" excuse when someone calls you out. You're what we call, an "entitled millennial". :) 

I am old enough to explain you real stuff which obviously you have no idea about

Such as? Only thing you've explained to me is that your education doesn't seem to be working out for you. :) 

and I am the  medical help but not yet professional, so no need to seek really even in case I need it.

Should probably go and get yourself checked out though, self diagnosing has caused a lot of problems in the world. :) 

It is definitely not fair to apply same prices for a country where lowest wage is 2000 € and another one with 300€ a month and not call this p2w,

Find a better job.

Don't spend money.

Play a different game. 

:) 

now go ----- yourself if you know better and you have something to say for this, because I am not gonna try to explain you again, when there are 2 numbers, one of them is 6 something times the other one. 

Not my fault you're poor. :) 

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Nice going offtopic. Ok how about bladeboques? Do you know he used like 2000 bucks on this game?

Bull*hit. Processing doesn't cost energy so everyone is selling stuff.

Grinding mobs is by far best way to get cash. Nice way to defend P2W btw.

Bull------ing-shit, you clearly haven't even explored the other features of this game if you actually believe that.

 

Genuinely curious if you've never thought about converting your euro's into US dollars and then using those US dollars to buy stuff on Black Desert? Cause I mean, only a moron would spend the same amount in euro's that American's spend to buy stuff in this game.

So why are you on the forums whining?

Awww, did I trigger you? :) 

Pretty sure you know nothing about the world when you're whining on the forums of a game about not having enough time to play. You cry when people talk about the US or UK, but then ignore other countries less fortunate than your own. You have access to the internet, to education, to electricity and you're playing the "woe is me game" because you can't play your video game? Awwww, poor you. :) 

Haven't told you to get a job or even called you a "college" kid, but perhaps you should spend more time in full time education as you seem to have a comprehension issue. :) 

So why are you on the forums?

This is in direction contradiction to your previous statement. Also, since you're crying about the game why not spend the time you would whining on the forum playing the game instead? :) 

You should really elarn how to manage your time better. :) 

I'm Plunge, glad you enjoy my existence. :) 

I do know your life, you're crying about not having enough time to play a video game and then using the "my life is terrible" excuse when someone calls you out. You're what we call, an "entitled millennial". :) 

Such as? Only thing you've explained to me is that your education doesn't seem to be working out for you. :) 

Should probably go and get yourself checked out though, self diagnosing has caused a lot of problems in the world. :) 

Find a better job.

Don't spend money.

Play a different game. 

:) 

Not my fault you're poor. :) 

I may have had a few quarrels with Plunge from time to time, but it's genuinely hilarious reading Plunge shred dumbasses apart with logic and facts.

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not everywhere is usa lol go read something, in europe uni is for free (almost), and no thanks I am not gonna take serious this "I am the wise life coach" bullshit. 

I am not playing the game for some time now, I have time to teach "oh we know everything better" idiots like you about the reality of rest of the world, and that you have no right to tell people things like "get a job", "college kid" or other crap moving in your minds. Since it is finals, and I have to sit and study all day, doesn't take much time to open the forum and write stuff, it is even good actually it burns my brains to focus on same thing more than 1-2 hours, so thanks for your existence who ever the ----- you are. You don't know my life, it is a fact as solid as math, I am old enough to explain you real stuff which obviously you have no idea about, unless you are like.. I don't know 60 or something? and I am the  medical help but not yet professional, so no need to seek really even in case I need it.

It is definitely not fair to apply same prices for a country where lowest wage is 2000 € and another one with 300€ a month and not call this p2w, now go ----- yourself if you know better and you have something to say for this, because I am not gonna try to explain you again, when there are 2 numbers, one of them is 6 something times the other one. 

Such a cry baby....

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Genuinely curious if you've never thought about converting your euro's into US dollars and then using those US dollars to buy stuff on Black Desert? Cause I mean, only a moron would spend the same amount in euro's that American's spend to buy stuff in this game.

 

wtfuuuuu... :D  :D  how old are you people?, like really? which planet are you living? omfg what I have just read omg, my forehead is quite red right now, due to continuous facepalm experience you guys gave me today, ----- it  sweetie, you don't worry about these kind of stuff, euros , dollars conversions, just ask your mom for the card and write the numbers ok? you are either 13 something years old or it is a reality that people in usa are dumb as -----.  Anyway ----- it I am bored.

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wtfuuuuu... :D  :D  how old are you people?, like really? which planet are you living? omfg what I have just read omg, my forehead is quite red right now, due to continuous facepalm experience you guys gave me today, ----- it  sweetie, you don't worry about these kind of stuff, euros , dollars conversions, just ask your mom for the card and write the numbers ok? you are either 13 something years old or it is a reality that people in usa are dumb as -----.  Anyway ----- it I am bored.

Let me help you out friend.

Cost for 11,500 pearls = $100

Cost for 11,500 pearls = 100 euros

Cost of converting euros to $100 through Paypal with ALL fees = 93.47 euros

For someone who is crying about being poor this much, I'm surprised you're insulting someone who just showed you how to save 6.53 euros. Don't know about what country you're in, but in France that's the price of a sandwich, drink and cake at Paul. :) 

 

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@Zoro lol you are really special kind of retard:

You have to study hard....

You have no time to work...

Yet you have time to play extremly time consuming korean mmorpg and whine all day on forums while giving crappy communist bulshit lectures to everyone...

Grow up kid, stop whining and git gud 😈

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wtfuuuuu... :D  :D  how old are you people?, like really? which planet are you living? omfg what I have just read omg, my forehead is quite red right now, due to continuous facepalm experience you guys gave me today, ----- it  sweetie, you don't worry about these kind of stuff, euros , dollars conversions, just ask your mom for the card and write the numbers ok? you are either 13 something years old or it is a reality that people in usa are dumb as -----.  Anyway ----- it I am bored.

You're going into medical school and you can't even figure out how a few currency conversions work? How did you even pass math class?

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So I was watching Klerics stream https://www.twitch.tv/klericvezax

Funny thing is that this guy haven't played this game in like 8 months and then he returns and YET has better gear than me even though I've been very active months. How the **** is this possible?

Well reason is simple. It's because there are some rich players who can spend 3000 euros like it's dirt. They would example buy Artisan's Memory and they never have to worry about failing enchants. Do you wonder why there are so many TET weapons in market for 1bil? Now you know why. Meanwhile I have to spend fortune on Memory Fragments.

It's also ridiculous that you can example buy value packs irl cash and I can't even snipe one from market because it's never there. I spent all day trying to compete to get it and I never did. Meanwhile people with irl cash can just grind them all day long without ever spend time looking at market.

i got my tet weapons and armors right before artisans was released, others r doing it now too as by afk fishing in heidel for relics and grinding val mobs for relics.

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