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Allow 90-Day Value Packs To Be Sold On The Marketplace

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Pls Kakao, take my money. I need those loot increase scrolls, and the people need their Value Packs!

@CM_Aethon @CM_Serenity @CM_Yukimura

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Already bought one and those loot increase scrolls aren't OP like people made them out to be. They don't work on pirate island trash drops and it only made pila ku worth 3m/hr so it still falls behind pirates with M2 trade

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Already bought one and those loot increase scrolls aren't OP like people made them out to be. They don't work on pirate island trash drops and it only made pila ku worth 3m/hr so it still falls behind pirates with M2 trade

They're best used in Mediah, I pulled in 6.5k coin purses at Rogues with one, which is just under 11mil/hr from turn-ins alone. I'd definitely buy a lot more if I could sell the Value Pack, since I don't really need more VP time just yet.

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It would have to be sold for 10m silver max, otherwise it would increase the p2w significantly.

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No.

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dont see why not. at 30 mil silver (3 times the length so 3 times the price) its not that much more silver than premium costumes per item. So those spending there wont make much more than what is possible now. 

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Eh you'll only get the message 'failed to purchase' or 'item sold' so meh

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I agree. I dont get why you cant buy/sell the 90 day on the market but you can with the 30 day.

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they should allow players convert silver to loyalty, and allow people buy outfits and costumes with loyalty but cost 20 times more than pearl points.

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Ugh please no.  If you do this, at least add the scrolls to the loyalty shop for 300L.

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pls mark p2w clowns with a ig title they are forced to use.

ty

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pls mark p2w clowns with a ig title they are forced to use.

ty

please just uninstall, ty.

they people who are helping to keep the game running and you are pouring salt towards them? what are you 12?

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please just uninstall, ty.

they people who are helping to keep the game running and you are pouring salt towards them? what are you 12?

how do you need p2w to keep a game alive?

do you even know what you are talking about?

ive probably spend more money on this game than most people here - without buying & selling costumes or buying massive amounts of artisans memory - there are other ways to get people to spend extra money

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how do you need p2w to keep a game alive?

do you even know what you are talking about?

define, p2w.

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define, p2w.

artisans memory, real life money for silver via marketplace, valks cry

however, the only reason this game doesnt turn into a p2w fest is because the current amount of items that can be sold is limited to 5 and the silver per €/$ is very low

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pls mark p2w clowns with a ig title they are forced to use.

ty

That's an excellent suggestion, but for the sake of equality, let's do it properly and include other members of our great community as well:

Freeloader: Made no additional purchases past the base game.

Hypocrite: Made no additional purchases past the base game, but bought pearl store items from the marketplace.

Leecher of Welfare: Actively playing throughout the whole day. This title takes precedence over the two above.

Spineless Peon: Used that idiotic "no p2w" avatar on the forums and threatened to quit the game over it - potentially even tried to commit chargeback fraud. Yet still plays the game today.

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That's an excellent suggestion, but for the sake of equality, let's do it properly and include other members of our great community as well:

Freeloader: Made no additional purchases past the base game.

Hypocrite: Made no additional purchases past the base game, but bought pearl store items from the marketplace.

Leecher of Welfare: Actively playing throughout the whole day. This title takes precedence over the two above.

Spineless Peon: Used that idiotic "no p2w" avatar on the forums and threatened to quit the game over it - potentially even tried to commit chargeback fraud. Yet still plays the game today.

Alicia is now my new favorite read, LOL!

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artisans memory, real life money for silver via marketplace, valks cry

however, the only reason this game doesnt turn into a p2w fest is because the current amount of items that can be sold is limited to 5 and the silver per €/$ is very low

valks cry is not in the game, artisan memories are not p2w if you dont even have the basic items, even if you do artisan memories only speeds up the process.

by your definition league of legends is p2w because you have to grind money to get the new unbalanced champions every month or pay up front to get it now.

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That's an excellent suggestion, but for the sake of equality, let's do it properly and include other members of our great community as well:

Freeloader: Made no additional purchases past the base game.

Hypocrite: Made no additional purchases past the base game, but bought pearl store items from the marketplace.

Leecher of Welfare: Actively playing throughout the whole day. This title takes precedence over the two above.

Spineless Peon: Used that idiotic "no p2w" avatar on the forums and threatened to quit the game over it - potentially even tried to commit chargeback fraud. Yet still plays the game today.

this is golden

valks cry is not in the game, artisan memories are not p2w if you dont even have the basic items, even if you do artisan memories only speeds up the process.

by your definition league of legends is p2w because you have to grind money to get the new unbalanced champions every month or pay up front to get it now.

artisans memory triples the value of your memory fragments. it's p2w in a game like bdo, where gear is so powerful.

your comparison to league of legends just makes totally no sense, because matches there start over from almost zero everytime while bdo has a persistent progression.

 

Edited by Jylin

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Yes, PLEASE.

Please, please, PLEASE allow this. Please??

 

People who can't afford to spend $15/month on a game benefit from being able to buy this so much, and it'll increase sales and give you more money!

Please do this!

 

It would have to be sold for 10m silver max, otherwise it would increase the p2w significantly.

This defies all logic.

If you can obtain the item by PLAYING THE GAME it's PLAY TO WIN not PAY TO WIN. If the only way to obtain this item is with cash, it's PAY TO WIN.

 

Allowing value packs to be much more accessible = less pay to win game. Can this community stop ACTIVELY making this game more pay to win by not allowing everything from the pearl shop to be sellable on the marketplace with zero weekly restrictions? Please.

 

Please think before you mindlessly call things "pay to win".

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This defies all logic.

If you can obtain the item by PLAYING THE GAME it's PLAY TO WIN not PAY TO WIN. If the only way to obtain this item is with cash, it's PAY TO WIN.

 

Allowing value packs to be much more accessible = less pay to win game. Can this community stop ACTIVELY making this game more pay to win by not allowing everything from the pearl shop to be sellable on the marketplace with zero weekly restrictions? Please.

 

Please think before you mindlessly call things "pay to win".

so by your logic, archeage isnt p2w because you can obtain all gear by regular playing right?

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artisans memory, real life money for silver via marketplace, valks cry

however, the only reason this game doesnt turn into a p2w fest is because the current amount of items that can be sold is limited to 5 and the silver per €/$ is very low

The rates for cash - > silver is so awful that it's not actually pay to win.

Pay to win is being unable to get a (borderline mandatory) value pack without paying cash, pay to win is being unable to get pets without paying cash due to too much competition.

The way the pearl - > marketplace system works now is more pay to win than if there is way no limit.  If you could sell every pearl item on the marketplace without a weekly limit you could PLAY THE GAME and obtain EVERY PEARL SHOP ITEM. Right now you end up having to SPEND MONEY to get things like value packs and pets.

 

Why don't people understand this? The game is literally more pay to win with how it is right now than if they just unlocked all pearl - > marketplace restrictions. Being able to obtain 100% of pearl items by PLAYING THE GAME would be great and the complete opposite of pay to win. If some dude wants to drop $100,000 to be in full TET gear I honestly couldn't care any less.

Edited by Shiyo

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The way the pearl - > marketplace system works now is more pay to win than if there is way no limit.

how does this even make sense?

so lets say they put PEN gear into the cash shop - by your logic, this wouldnt be p2w because you can still get it via active playing...

guess you arent trying to be competitive in this game right?

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how does this even make sense?

so lets say they put PEN gear into the cash shop - by your logic, this wouldnt be p2w because you can still get it via active playing...

guess you arent trying to be competitive in this game right?

That has literally nothing to do with the discussion, what. There isn't pen gear on the cash shop why are you bringing up something completely irrelevant and out of 3rd field? Don't make up crap.

If 100% of the current pearl shop items were obtainable by farming silver in game and easily accessible(no 5 per week restriction for people) it would be less pay to win because you could get stuff like weight, pets, value pack, costumes, outfits etc without paying money. The publisher would also get money either way, because that item can't exist without being paid cash, so it's win/win for everyone.

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That has literally nothing to do with the discussion, what.

If 100% of the current pearl shop items were obtainable by farming silver in game and easily accessible(no 5 per week restriction for people) it would be less pay to win because you could get stuff like weight, pets, value pack, costumes, outfits etc without paying money. The publisher would also get money either way, because that item can't exist without being paid cash, so it's win/win for everyone.

i agree on this partially, however the fact that some people would just be able to dump massive amounts of dollars into the game and become a 1-man zerg killer still bothers me.

Check Bong's stream - Hes the perfect example - Super p2w mode - Almost 300ap wizard - hes porting into a zerg, presses 1 button and everyone just dies - there is a video of that also.

This is one guy ruining the experience of multiple players just because he has that massive gear gap - which he got because hes paying real life money - not playing the game more excessive than others

 

Instead of items directly - they should just make the pearl boxes sellable

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