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Removing or reworking super armour

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Warriors kit is designed to CC chain combo, solar flare > overwhelm > wreckless blow > kick > switch > grapple > grave digger > slashing of the dead. 

 

Jesus christ...you should stop already, you little theorycrafter. Because you got your war to 58 you feel entitled to teach others because all you know is basic combo which every noob knows. There is much more interesting combos thant his basic shit.

PS : put armor break after overwhelm for -30dp and u dont need to kick, just switch after reckless blow (not wreckless lol). 

 

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Jesus christ...you should stop already, you little theorycrafter. Because you got your war to 58 you feel entitled to teach others because all you know is basic combo which every noob knows. There is much more interesting combos thant his basic shit.

PS : put armor break after overwhelm for -30dp and u dont need to kick, just switch after reckless blow (not wreckless lol). 

 

you kick to cancel the end of recklesses animation and swap faster. you can probably add armor break in there if you kick swaped fast enough, but again theory crafting.

 

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you kick to cancel the end of recklesses animation and swap faster. you can probably add armor break in there if you kick swaped fast enough, but again theory crafting.

 

No need for kick, Just press C and E after reckless animation ends. Amor break nicely fits after overwhelm in between. You can even cancel grave to slashing for bit more dmg and do solar and balance + hilt strike at the end. Depends on if you want to debuff your targed with 2nd half of GD animation. Im canceling it if i see that target cant outpot and wil die after.

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Jesus christ...you should stop already, you little theorycrafter. Because you got your war to 58 you feel entitled to teach others because all you know is basic combo which every noob knows. There is much more interesting combos thant his basic shit.

PS : put armor break after overwhelm for -30dp and u dont need to kick, just switch after reckless blow (not wreckless lol). 

 

59* 

Oh I'm sorry I forgot armour break. Though I messaged you the exact same thing with armour break before. Not like it makes a difference. Last time I saw you in red battlefield you were running away building up black spirit energy and spamming red fog lol. 

Pretty interesting combo right? Still waiting for that fight haven't seen you online since or in velia 4 at the very least.

The kick is used to stop the useless animation of "reckless" blow. Sorry even I make mistakes. 

But yeah apparently I'm theory crafting when the combo actually works. 

1:18 

Theres another's case of him using the exact same combo in Eiene video too.

you know whats funny about this, your entire argument here is based on theories and speculation/ what if this, what if that. I don't fight sorcs much, I focus mostly on 1v1's against bersekers rangers and wizards because by far they are played the most. In that video, that was the third fight against 3 different people I've had, because its so rare to find sorcs. The reason I chose a sorc to record is because the classes are so evenly balanced its laughable, so i figured you if anyone would understand that the class is balanced and super armor doesn't make it overly op in any way, which this thread is focused on. secondly I never assumed anything, except that you were a horrible player with no idea how game balance works. dp on warrior is broken, just gunna say that right now, you can play well with almost no dp if you have a block thats enough to soak up 1 or 2 shots and you do it correctly, aswell as if the fight doesn't drag on too long. and about your bad gameplay statement, thats pretty funny honestly I got the opposite reaction in my discord, but ty for the oppinion. honestly there are a ton of classes that would be affected by this nerf "nerf as in completely removed", musa/maehwa zerkers and warriors. but i'm talking from my most experience pov which is warrior.

 

 

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I dunno if you're trolling at this point. DP is useless on warrior? Soak up 1 or 2 hits? Probably NA AP build yeah. Musa, ninjas and sorceress are hitting around 11 times in some cases with one skill. 

Now I know for sure you haven't been reading anything that I said. I mentioned before that giant would still need super armour, that I change my mind on "completely removing super armour" that certain classes need it more than others. That "certain select skills" don't need super armour. 

Warrior is currently the only class that has a spammable super armour which is on block. Making him in certain cases impossible to CC unless using something like merciless. Classes that actually need super armour are stuff like Valkyrie and giant. The main CC classes for node wars. Less so classes such as tamer, musa, maewha, warrior, sorceress. Heck the only AOE super armour CC in any of these classes is from warrior. And he has the worst one in the game.

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Oh I'm sorry I forgot armour break. Though I messaged you the exact same thing with armour break before. Not like it makes a difference

 

No, -30dp is doesnt make difference. You are right. And no you didnt messaged me anything. And dont message me anything anyway.

The kick is used to stop the useless animation of "reckless" blow. 

Yes, when you want to go reckless to grave directly for sped up version of GD lol. And you need speed buff from solar to speed up GD and its still unreliable even with addon. Its easier to hotkey GD and do reckless - C - hotkey. It works every time.

Last time I saw you in red battlefield you were running away building up black spirit energy and spamming red fog lol. 

 

Sorry but you are retarded if you tihnk i was running away to build up my 100%. Like yea everyone who runs away is going to build up 100%. Your logic is funny. Just tell me HOW. Because when i run away, im going to repot and im gaining HP not 100% rage rofl. You are full of shit. 

59* 

You stated 58 when we discussed heavily before. Even if you hit 59, you still lack experience in different scenarios.

But yeah apparently I'm theory crafting when the combo actually works. 

 

I didnt said it doesnt work. Its basic shit. But again, you are trying to twist facts so it looks like you are that good one.

 

Its cute that you are linking Oneup`s vids all over again lol. I`ll show him this thread tomorrow cuz hes sleeping now. 

 

Pretty interesting combo right? Still waiting for that fight haven't seen you online since or in velia 4 at the very least.

 

 

Its least interesting combo out of others. But you are drinking kool aid tho, being sarcastic doesnt help you with proving that you know warrior better than me.

And no im not gonna fight you, you know what ? YOU want to prove something, grab your warrior and go and fight Eiene and show us if you can back up your claims because you are talking too much in "theoretical" scenarios. Go and show off how to play warrior. You are that one giving advices and linking oneup vids.

Sounds fair ? 

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No, -30dp is doesnt make difference. You are right.

Yes, when you want to go reckless to grave lol. And you need speed buff from solar to speed up GD and its still unreliable. Its easier to hotkey GD and do reckless - C - hotkey. It works every time.

Sorry but you are retarded if you tihnk i was running away to build up my 100%. Like yea everyone who runs away is going to build up 100%. Just tell me HOW. Because when i run away, im going to repot and im gaining HP not 100% rage rofl. You are full of shit. 

You stated 58 when we discussed heavily before. Even if you hit 59, you still lack experience in different scenarios.

I didnt said it doesnt work. Its basic shit. But again, you are trying to twist facts so it looks like you are that good one.

 

Its cute that you are linking Oneup`s vids all over again lol. I`ll show him this thread tomorrow cuz hes sleeping now. 

Its least interesting combo out of others. But you are drinking kool aid tho, being sarcastic doesnt help you with proving that you know warrior better than me.

And no im not gonna fight you, you know what ? YOU want to prove something, grab your warrior and go and fight Eiene and show us if you can back up your claims because you are talking too much in "theoretical" scenarios. Go and show off how to play warrior. You are that one giving advices and linking oneup vids.

Sounds fair ? 

"No -30dp is doesn't make difference. You are right" 

typical just cherry pick what you wanna hear. Read all of what I wrote. "Oh I'm sorry I forgot armour break. Though I messaged you the exact same thing with armour break before. Not like it makes a difference. Last time I saw you in red battlefield you were running away building up black spirit energy and spamming red fog lol. 

Implying it's useless since the best combo you use is CC > Red fog. ----- combos lol. 

Yes, when you want to go reckless to grave lol. And you need speed buff from solar to speed up GD and its still unreliable. Its easier to hotkey GD and do reckless - C - hotkey. It works every time.

Prefernce. I don't like it. And unreliable I what way? The same combo is being use, except you don't use it with overwhelm down attack percentile multiplier whilst I do. 

Sorry but you are retarded if you tihnk i was running away to build up my 100%. Like yea everyone who runs away is going to build up 100%. Just tell me HOW. Because when i run away, im going to repot and im gaining HP not 100% rage rofl. You are full of shit. 

This was high level retardation here. I mean come on. Whilst your running taking damage what goes up? No black spirit rage right? I swear I'm losing brain cells. 

You stated 58 when we discussed heavily before. Even if you hit 59, you still lack experience in different scenarios.

I think we stated this about 3 times. 1v1 warrior 58 vs lvl 60 wizard. undergeared fighting at pirates. Won with little to no effort. As for experience what works for you works for you. Best example I can give is how I don't rely solely on violation as my main source of damage and how I juggle amulet to scythe which is clunky for other players. Or how you don't bother with solar flare > overwhelm. Because it doesn't work for you. 

Its cute that you are linking Oneup`s vids all over again lol. I`ll show him this thread tomorrow cuz hes sleeping now

Don't worry man I'll even tag him. @Oneuproad there. Funniest thing is you assume I'm linking oneuproad for no reason. He's currently the only warrior who puts up videos that uses his head and currently the best example to show warriors balance. And ofc doesn't fight trash players. Not the best anymore, he lost that after awakening release but better than anyone else uploading videos at the moment. 

And no im not gonna fight you, you know what ? YOU want to prove something, grab your warrior and go and fight Eiene and show us if you can back up your claims because you are talking too much in "theoretical" scenarios. Go and show off how to play warrior. You are that one giving advices and linking oneup vids.

What do you think I was doing in velia 4 for? Stroking my -----? I was fighting eiene not on my warrior since that doesn't even have dande nor boss gear but on my sorceress. Each fight went like this. Violation > TBS dead. Or violation and dead. First one to CC wins basically. It was crap and it was boring. When I do get gearfor my warrior the first thing I'll do is that and I'll rub it in your face. 
 
Though whats ticked me off the most is you now backing out in fighting me. Seriously shows the warrior mentality now. Then again what do I expect from a guy who talks big and does nothing. Would've been a perfect time to show how great your combo is.
 
 

 

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And here we go again, going to argue 1vs1. Whole thread is about your theories and bubbles. You act like you are the right persont to talk to about balancing issues lel. As you can see no one care, just few ppl. Mostly panpan licking your ass. Let it be dude, yea im dashin away to gain 100% ... and you are losing brain cells? How you can even say something like this lol. Judging someone because he is dashing away. And with 5 movement speed i can take maybe 5% because every 5th dash is covered in iframe. And after 5th dash im safe if i dont use charging thrust. 

And you know what is funny ? I was whole time in ghillie and i whispered you when RBF ended so you couldnt know that im there. But keep trying. Dont forget to tell me that i killed you, you remembered color of my ghillie and was stalking me for 15min what im doing in that big chaotic 30vs30 fight, 

Then again what do I expect from a guy who talks big and does nothing. 

Thats exactly what you are doing man since you started this nonsense thread. Teaching others how to play and what to do without any proof or video evidence. 

You are going to block list. Bye.

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And here we go again, going to argue 1vs1. Whole thread is about your theories and bubbles. You act like you are the right persont to talk to about balancing issues lel. As you can see no one care, just few ppl. Mostly panpan licking your ass. Let it be dude, yea im dashin away to gain 100% ... and you are losing brain cells? How you can even say something like this lol. Judging someone because he is dashing away. And with 5 movement speed i can take maybe 5% because every 5th dash is covered in iframe. And after 5th dash im safe if i dont use charging thrust. 

And you know what is funny ? I was whole time in ghillie and i whispered you when RBF ended so you couldnt know that im there. But keep trying. Dont forget to tell me that i killed you, you remembered color of my ghillie and was stalking me for 15min what im doing in that big chaotic 30vs30 fight, 

Thats exactly what you are doing man since you started this nonsense thread. 

You are going to block list. Bye.

Im arguing to you personally about it. This has nothing to do with super armour or how op something is. I'm going to beat you, take a video of it, upload it and show how good of a warrior you really are. 

Dont flatter yourself? Stalking you for 15 mins? I was in Heidel arena right next to you then logged out. You were just standing there in Heidel arena waiting for rbf outside your ghillie back in the afternoon. And you entered rbf a couple more times after that. It was one hour before node wars when I logged out and you "apparently" said that you were gonna fight me. Heck you were on my side for one of them LOL.

And dashing away to get 100%? Wtf. No. Your running, you're going to get black spirit rage anyways regardless. Wasn't like there was just me chasing you. There was a giant and a ranger. Black spirit rage = the amount of hits taken. 

Annoying thing is you saying you were in a ghillie. The whole time. Go on chat more shit lol. Then again what do I expect from a guy who talks big and does nothing. 

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I was in Heidel arena right next to you then logged out. 

STOP -----ing lying, i was whole day at centaurs. I didnt even sniffed around the heidel that day. And I had to unblock you because my friend told me you are talking bullshit again, he was that day with me leveing his alt.  I even wrote you that im at centaurs and you are welcome to grief me.

Wasn't like there was just me chasing you. There was a giant and a ranger. 

Again, i was in ghillie and you had no idea that im there. Pathetic. You are just shitting on your own head with your imaginary stories.

Annoying thing is you saying you were in a ghillie. The whole time.

Yes i was.

Here you go, i wrote you im at centaurs and then i swapped channel and went to rbf immediately after Eiene told me you are there.

You must be on drugs or something if you see people which are on opposte part of map.

 

 

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STOP -----ing lying, i was whole day at centaurs. I didnt even sniffed around the heidel that day. And I had to unblock you because my friend told me you are talking bullshit again, he was that day with me leveing his alt.  I even wrote you that im at centaurs and you are welcome to grief me.

Again, i was in ghillie and you had no idea that im there. Pathetic. You are just shitting on your own head with your imaginary stories.

Yes i was.

Here you go, i wrote you im at centaurs and then i swapped channel and went to rbf immediately after Eiene told me you are there.

You must be on drugs or something if you see people which are on opposte part of map.

 

 

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Yeah... when I wasn't online. Well done. I was dueling eiene after two additional red battlefields 2pm GMT. Went offline at 6pm GMT and specifically told eiene the following "going to take a break for node wars" I was fighting eiene on her sorc around 4-5pm GMT. I can't recall the exact timing. Came back 15-30 mins before node wars were going to start to fight a giant from another guild. Continued to fight him even after node wars started before doing node wars. 

Fought eiene A good couple of fights outside arena on his DK then a good few more on his sorceress later. (4-5pm GMT) 

How were you in ghillie when a player named Chors was right there? Sitting on the wall in Heidel arena, 1pm ish I don't think I have you in my friends list. Not to mention a warrior. With the name Chors. 

Either I missed your message when I was fighting or you didn't send it at all. Next time I see your character I'll take a screenshot of it. 

You messaged me personally when I was doing nothing and straight after I told you to fight me. Never got a reply after that. 

Go on talk more shit about how you were in a ghillie. Considering I was also sitting in a ghillie for RBF for the 2nd one and 3rd one which was a win

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Berlioz`s harmonogram

*yawn*

Again : i was at centaurs whole day, stop taking drugs.

I even proved you with pictures and you are still saying different things. 

Delusional liar.

 

 

 

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*yawn*

Last time : i was at centaurs whole day, stop taking drugs.

I even proved you with pictures and you are still saying different things.

Delusional liar.

 

Yeah yeah centaurs all day clearly. That's why you were in RBF in the afternoon. 

Go on chat more bullshit and make some more excuses lol. Remember you saying you were gone because your wife came back that's why you never replied. 

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How were you in ghillie when a player named Chors was right there? Sitting on the wall in Heidel arena, 1pm ish I don't think I have you in my friends list. Not to mention a warrior. With the name Chors. 

 

I wasnt even playing at 1pm but ok. Im not student, i have company and im working every day. 

Yeah yeah centaurs all day clearly. That's why you were in RBF in the afternoon. 

Go on chat more bullshit and make some more excuses lol. 

Are you retarded ? Do you know you can enter RBF from anywhere? For -----s sake. You dont need to be in heidel arena to enter RBF. 

And i got it now. You dont even know you can grind in pila ku and join RBF form there. Just lol.

 

 

 

 

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I wasnt even playing at 1pm but ok. Im not studend, i have company and im working every day. ffs

Are you retarded ? Do you know you can enter RBF from anywhere? For -----s sake.

What?

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What?

yes you can grind anywhere and join rbf from grind spot. Be humble and tell me you didnt know that.

 

 

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yes you can grind anywhere and join rbf from grind spot. Be humble and tell me you didnt know that.

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Nonono.

Its the fact that you said I have issues with comprehensive reading then you just said "Are you retarded? Do you know you can enter RBF from anywhere?"

I mean I quit BDO back in July back then I had 2k RBF points. I don't even touch it now. But why would I not know that? I made it as clear as possible saying that I saw you in RBF in the afternoon. No where did I say that you joined RBF from somewhere. 

Just go to sleep old man. This is a pain. You're not gonna fight me and you can't even remember what you did last week. You can't even read what I wrote properly without making stupid and dumb assumptions. 

Just block me and never talk about this again. You're freaking loony. 

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So why you are wondered that i joined rbf ? Im taking pauses from grinding and joining rbf and then grinding again. Dont ask me stupid questions, you`ll receive stupid answers.

"Yeah yeah centaurs all day clearly. That's why you were in RBF in the afternoon." - thats what you said. Like i cant grind and do rbf at once lol.

 

Just go to sleep old man. This is a pain. You're not gonna fight me and you can't even remember what you did last week. You can't even read what I wrote properly without making stupid and dumb assumptions. 

Good try. You looks like a fool anyway, i proved you several times. I showed you my quote from that day, screenshot from eiene from that day. And you have what ? 0 proofs. All you have is "i seen you in arena". Yea i seen aliens.

 

 

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So why you are wondered that i joined rbf ? Im taking pauses from grinding and joining rbf and then grinding again. Dont ask me stupid questions, you`ll receive stupid answers.

"Yeah yeah centaurs all day clearly. That's why you were in RBF in the afternoon." - thats what you said. Like i cant grind and do rbf at once lol.

 

Assuming you were grinding all day when you were at Heidel in the afternoon. Either something's fishy or youre account sharing. Considering I was standing right next to you without a ghillie looking at you at the Heidel arena safe spot noticing you joining RBF. HECK You were on the same team as me one time. 

Not to mention the first RBF was when you whispered me then never replied back. And what's really ticking me off is how inconsistently you are writing. Sometimes you write perfect, coherent sentences then suddenly it's like your drunk and just pulling shit out of nowhere and making random and false accusations. 

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Assuming you were grinding all day when you were at Heidel in the afternoon. Either something's fishy or youre account sharing.

And what's really ticking me off is how inconsistently you are writing. Sometimes you write perfect, coherent sentences then suddenly it's like your drunk and just pulling shit out of nowhere and making random and false accusations. 

Mnahaha yea, report me, im account sharing. You dont have arguments now so we are going this way. Im 100% sure you are female, seriously.

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Mnahaha yea, report me, im account sharing. You dont have arguments now so we are going this way. Im 100% sure you are female, seriously.

???

Holy shit. How did it even escalate to this???

Im just showing inconsistencies in your argument. You whispered me in the afternoon yourself before ignoring me. Then apparently whispering me again telling me you're at centaurs grinding which I never got. I clearly saw you at Heidel arena that you're so strongly denying for some reason. 

Whats with you man???

And I'm a guy. Control your assumptions man... 

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???

Holy shit. How did it even escalate to this???

Im just showing inconsistencies in your argument. You whispered me in the afternoon yourself before ignoring me. Then apparently whispering me again telling me you're at centaurs grinding which I never got. I clearly saw you at Heidel arena that you're so strongly denying for some reason. 

Whats with you man???

And I'm a guy. Control your assumptions man... 

Okay Fiona. This is really my last post. I dont care what you have seen, i proved you that you are wrong. And please tag some CM so he can delete all that pile of nonsese you caused because you love to argue even after someone grounded you several times but you are still trying to looks good and its hard for you to confess that you should be wrong. You have ruined your own thread , gratz. Im misanthrop, split personality, im taking drugs, i can be at 2 places at once and people see me where im not. I have also insomnia so im glad someone is sharing nigh time with me. It was a good time. Good morning. Bye. 

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Okay Fiona. This is really my last post. I dont care what you have seen, i proved you that you are wrong. And please tag some CM so he can delete all that pile of nonsese you caused because you love to argue even after someone grounded you several times but you are still trying to looks good and its hard for you to confess that you should be wrong. You have ruined your own thread , gratz. Im misanthrop, split personality, im taking drugs, i can be at 2 places at once and people see me where im not. I have also insomnia so im glad someone is sharing nigh time with me. It was a good time. Good morning. Bye. 

I asked you to fight me. And you lost your shit. That's all there is to it. But thanks for telling me you have insomnia...

Makes sense why you're pulling shit out of nowhere now. 

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League of legends dominated by SKT1 and star craft by a lone KR player for years. You know two fairly casual and easy to get into games. 

 

Perhaps im missing the possible sarcasm, in which case I apologize for wasting your time :)

But did you just say StarCraft is a casual and easy to get into game?

The amount of triggery and salt flowing into my body right now is immense. StarCraft is by far one of the most difficult and high-learning curve games on the PC. Period.

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Perhaps im missing the possible sarcasm, in which case I apologize for wasting your time :)

But did you just say StarCraft is a casual and easy to get into game?

The amount of triggery and salt flowing into my body right now is immense. StarCraft is by far one of the most difficult and high-learning curve games on the PC. Period.

I mention easy to get into as anyone can pick up Starcraft. As for mastering? That's a whole other topic. The game becomes extremely competitive the more you learn due to the fact the immense amount of strategy involved. 

Someone else mentioned this before that EU/NA don't have the same time to dedicate into one game. The person who dominated Starcraft in KR has been playing it for 10 years? Correct me if I'm wrong. What I'm saying is, the western community can't keep their interest in a single game for so long. 

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I mention easy to get into as anyone can pick up Starcraft. As for mastering? That's a whole other topic. The game becomes extremely competitive the more you learn due to the fact the immense amount of strategy involved. 

Someone else mentioned this before that EU/NA don't have the same time to dedicate into one game. The person who dominated Starcraft in KR has been playing it for 10 years? Correct me if I'm wrong. What I'm saying is, the western community can't keep their interest in a single game for so long. 

Mk, I misunderstood the point you were making lol.

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