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Harpooning and why does this suck?

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 i've taken a look all over the internet and sadly there isn't hardly any new relevant info on his topic... so figured i would ask the community... 

 

first i want to state that i am not an AFK fisher... i like to do everything in the game actively. That being said i have worked my way up over time to the rank of Professional 5 fisher and was super excited to try out harpooning.... but to my huge disappointment... i discovered that the returns for striving to reach this level so i could go harpooning ...for a lack of a better term...sucks...  the amount of money u can make with it is laughable compared to a rod... so why even have it in the game and have it at such a high ranking spot if it's use is pretty much useless...

You can easily make more money with a rod any day even not in a hot spot... so i giuess id just like to know what im doing wrong here or if this is just the way it is...also i noticed this... for a coalanth or whatever its called ...is worth 200K/fish    and yet you catch a humpback whale... which is easily 1000 times the size of a coalanth... and yet its worth a measily 75K .... its seems hard enough as it is to catch a yellow fish... but i mean i would have expected catching a whale to be a lil more profitable or something... i unno just me lol im not here to start arguments... but i would like to know wither or not this is worth my time investing my time into or not... i enjoy fishing when im not grinding mods for days... so would be nice if working towards pro 5 for a harpoon would have been worth it...but sadly it seems pathetic in comparison to the rod :/ 

 

 

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Yeah, harpooning sucks. Best advice would be to not do it. 

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You cant fish up a bottle with a map to a golden chest.

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Harpoon was a feature that sounded great in theory, but ended up terrible in practice. You can get pretty high end "fish" like sperm whales from doing it, but the time it takes to get even one fish with is the same amount you could get 4-5 other fish from a rod. It's sad to see that this feature was shafted so badly. 

E: It should get reworked to give hunting/fishing exp at the same time since we can get whales from it..

Edited by Feonie

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so is this pointless to even begin doing? i mean id love to get into it i like it alot but if it's doomed be absolute trash when it comes to profit.... id hate to waste my  time on something that wont be of any use really....if theyd bump the price for the whales it might be enough to make it half viable...but 75K for a whale i mean come on!!.....

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OP is certainly right that harpooning is less lucrative than rod fishing by a large margin. In my opinion, harpooning is a sideline to rod fishing and shouldn't be equally lucrative, but it should be closer in value than it is. Some pros and cons of harpoon vs fishing -

PROS

1. Completing the Fish Guide and Fishing Knowledge.

2. Fishing records. Records for the harpoon-only yellow fish aren't tainted by AFK fishing and are much easier to get.

3. Titles. You get access to a wider range of titles to bump up your title count. And many of the Prince and Guru titles for yellow harpoon fish on NA server are unclaimed. If you want a unique title for your character, harpooning is perhaps the only way.

4. Food Fish. Harpooning lets you catch large numbers of a single fish species, so is more effective for gathering and processing dried fish.

CONS (some of these are interdependent but I'll list them all)

1. Value. Much less lucrative than rod fishing - unnecessarily so.

2. Mini-game. Tedious and far too long. A 25 second mini-game for each and every harpoon fish is inappropriate. It is also impossible to fail once you've learned it.

3. Totems. Harpooning used to be the only effective way of getting experience for the old-style totems. With the new-style totems, open water fishing is slightly more effective.

4. Equipment. There are no repairable harpoons. A thick harpoon needs 7 iron ingots, has 40 durability, no fishing bonus and can only be produced on Iliya island.  A steel fishing rod needs 2 steel ingots, has 65 durability, +2 fishing bonus and can be produced anywhere.

IMPROVING HARPOONING

1. Shorter minigame. This would fix, in part, most of the problems with harpooning. For example, use the current minigame but require only 3 or 4 hits, and no misses allowed.

2. Imperial Trader. All yellow fish, harpoon-only species included, should be sellable.

A final note - developers need to start thinking about the effects on harpooning when they make changes to rod fishing, and vice-versa.

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Has anyone tried using the harpoon on the Epheria Sailboat? Does it work?

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it can work on any boat really as far as i know...hope they give this mechanic some much needed attention sooner rather then later its way more cooler then normal rod fishing imo

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There are things that are worth it IMO like giant squid which are like 320k or something like that.

Double checked, they are worth 320k.

http://bddatabase.net/us/item/8454/

 

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 is there some sort of list around right now thats current that we could go by... casue i would love for this to be worth the effort yanno i really enjoy it total shame that DAUM has done such a terrible job with implementing it :/

AND WHY THE HELL is a killer whale worth less then a TUNA?!?!? the hell kinda nonsense is that?!

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It got nerfed because Greenpeace wanted to save the sperm whales. avatar_210d8d3173c2_64.png

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It got nerfed because Greenpeace wanted to save the sperm whales. avatar_210d8d3173c2_64.png

Greenpeace biased against fish confirmed. Only aquatic mammals are worth protecting I guess. >:(

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Has anyone tried using the harpoon on the Epheria Sailboat? Does it work?

While you can use the harpoon on a sailboat you will not actually catch anything. The tooltip for the harpoons also states that it requires a fishing boat.

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anyone know if this feature is gonna be ever worked on or is it just gonna be left like this? would love to spend more time doing this ... been tryin to find some hot spots around but have yet to really stumble upon anything worth while...is there any kinda page dedicated to this particular mechanic nowadays? i found some stuff but its either in kroean or horribly outdated :/

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Traxxle did a great job of listing the pros and cons.

IMHO these are the things harpooning needs. 

1) It should be more profitable than rod fishing. Period. You need to be Pro5. You can't be AFK. You need to be on a fishing boat. All these requirements tell you it should be more profitable.

2) There should absolutely be hotspots. Make them rare, make them accessible to Masters or Gurus only if you must, but they should exist.

3) Make more gear related to harpooning. Artisan Harpoons, Triple Barb Harpoons (yes please)

4) Repeatable quests(again, Triple Barb Harpoons)

5) Make them usable on the New Sailboats. The fact that they are not is an insult.

6) Make gold Harpoon Fish count more towards your totem.

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There are things that are worth it IMO like giant squid which are like 320k or something like that.

Double checked, they are worth 320k.

http://bddatabase.net/us/item/8454/

 

While doing the harpooning for the weekly quest out of about 100 tries (at Master 5) I got a single Giant Squid, 6-7 Albacoves/Hammer Whales (gold), 50-70 Scuttlefish (green) and the rest Black Marlins/Swordfishes. It's pretty terrible and extremely boring.

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i tried a test today dont know if it was luck or not but i picked a spot in the ocean... went there for an hour with the harpoon and an hour with the rod ... hour with the harpoon netted something like 3.2M while the rod netted 2M now this was just an abundant area nothing special about it... hauled in a pile of big eye tunas like 20 of them gold with harpoon and hauled in about 12 nibblers with rod... so i unno im gonna try this test agian later but imo harpooining should be alot more profitable then it is... i mean WE CATCH WHALES FOR GODS SAKE!!! WHALESSSSSS!!! and they are worth less then a small fish!!!! still blows my mind.. WHAT A HORRIBLE JOB implementing something like this... i agree that with such requirements it should be alot more profitable... i hope they give this some attention in the very near future cause honestly i love it but it def needs HEAPS of work!! get ur shit together daum! lol

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While you can use the harpoon on a sailboat you will not actually catch anything. The tooltip for the harpoons also states that it requires a fishing boat.

I sincerely hope that this is just something that they have missed and that it will be fixed VERY fast.

Harpooning have had such an imense amount of bugs related to it in the past and now this.... Its borderline intentional.

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¯\_(ツ)_/¯  Just another empty/useless content so they can call their game 'deep' 

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Did today's patch let us Harpoon on sail boats? Still at work

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Nope. 

 

"Did today's patch let us Harpoon on sail boats? Still at work"

Edited by Hindsight

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Nope. 

 

"Did today's patch let us Harpoon on sail boats? Still at work"

yeah when i got home I gave it a try. Does anyone know if it changed harpooning in any way?

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Yeah it's pretty pointless and why does the fish go off the screen annoying!

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i tried a test today dont know if it was luck or not but i picked a spot in the ocean... went there for an hour with the harpoon and an hour with the rod ... hour with the harpoon netted something like 3.2M while the rod netted 2M now this was just an abundant area nothing special about it... hauled in a pile of big eye tunas like 20 of them gold with harpoon and hauled in about 12 nibblers with rod... so i unno im gonna try this test agian later but imo harpooining should be alot more profitable then it is... i mean WE CATCH WHALES FOR GODS SAKE!!! WHALESSSSSS!!! and they are worth less then a small fish!!!! still blows my mind.. WHAT A HORRIBLE JOB implementing something like this... i agree that with such requirements it should be alot more profitable... i hope they give this some attention in the very near future cause honestly i love it but it def needs HEAPS of work!! get ur shit together daum! lol

I am curious. When you wrote this post, where exactly were you fishing? 20 bigeye tuna is a lot 

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