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I have pre-ordered 500 weed and I noticed that no matter how high I set the price (I went up to 2200), I always get notifications that someone else got the weed and not me. Then I started camping the MP and sniping. I noticed that my pre-order is being completely ignored. Batches of 500 weed get posted to MP and sold, while I never get anything. Am I missing something here?

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I have pre-ordered 500 weed and I noticed that no matter how high I set the price (I went up to 2200), I always get notifications that someone else got the weed and not me. Then I started camping the MP and sniping. I noticed that my pre-order is being completely ignored. Batches of 500 weed get posted to MP and sold, while I never get anything. Am I missing something here?

I think they just outbid you.  Also, not everything will go on preorder.  There are times where it will go on bid randomly.  

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People are setting higher preorders.

I've noticed logs can go as high as 20k per log, even though the usual price is under 1k per, and the same can be said of other high-demand gathering items - Such as weeds! 

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Pre-orders are per region, if you have the highest pre-order in Calpheon for instance you will only get the items that were listed in Calpheon. As for prices, 2,200 will hardly ever be the highest for weeds. 

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I'm not surprised that I'm getting outbut, however, I'm very surprised that stuff goes on bid ignoring pre-order. No idea why that is...

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It's deliberate.

Only a portion of items go to pre-orders, so that pre-orders don't become the only way to get certain items. After all, the market is designed so that people can't monopolise things - the rng bid/raffle system, the way only a portion of items go to pre-order, the delay between an item being listed and it being actually available to buy. 

It's set up such that people can't dominate the market the way they can in other games. This is one of the reasons the market tax is high, because it means buying items to relist doesn't generate profit, either. 

Really, if you want an item like weeds, or logs, or rough stone, you need to go and gather them yourself.

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Pre-orders are per region, if you have the highest pre-order in Calpheon for instance you will only get the items that were listed in Calpheon. As for prices, 2,200 will hardly ever be the highest for weeds. 

Not true a preorder will buy items listed from any region. 

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It's deliberate.

Only a portion of items go to pre-orders, so that pre-orders don't become the only way to get certain items. After all, the market is designed so that people can't monopolise things - the rng bid/raffle system, the way only a portion of items go to pre-order, the delay between an item being listed and it being actually available to buy. 

It's set up such that people can't dominate the market the way they can in other games. This is one of the reasons the market tax is high, because it means buying items to relist doesn't generate profit, either. 

Really, if you want an item like weeds, or logs, or rough stone, you need to go and gather them yourself.

Yeah, that makes sense.

As for gathering them myself... no way. I can still snipe between 2-5k in an hour depending on luck. Gathering that many would use too much energy and take way longer. Thank God there are so many people who actually post these things to MP.

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Pre-orders are per region, if you have the highest pre-order in Calpheon for instance you will only get the items that were listed in Calpheon. As for prices, 2,200 will hardly ever be the highest for weeds. 

GM confirmed not region based.

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Wait, people buy weed?

 

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I payed 3500 whenever I wanted Weeds. Usually 3200 was good in non-peak times. You're just not putting it high enough.

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I've had an insanely amount towards pre order for timber squares for a couple weeks and still nothing. And I know I've placed more than another person did. So maybe I don't have it figured out either? I was thinking it must be region as well. But seeing a GM said it is not region based then guess that's one question answered. I think when I get my amount I need I will make more and sell the stupid things. Might make some good silver from it!

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Here we go again:

1) If you don't get the pre-order and someone else does: you were outbid

2) Whether or not an item is sold through a pre-order or is listed on the marketplace is randomly determined 1 minute after the items are queued (otherwise no one would ever get anything from the marketplace anymore)

3) Pre-orders are not region based

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Here we go again:

1) If you don't get the pre-order and someone else does: you were outbid

2) Whether or not an item is sold through a pre-order or is listed on the marketplace is randomly determined 1 minute after the items are queued (otherwise no one would ever get anything from the marketplace anymore)

3) Pre-orders are not region based

 

I got that. I'm not a child. I was saying that someone I know paid less and got the preorder and I didn't. So I had been wondering. 

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Maybe get into farming xD you get weeds by pruning the crops and you can do it on an alt.  Have about 4k already and just started 5 days ago using 4 10 slot fences and 1 7 slot fence.

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Pre-orders are per region, if you have the highest pre-order in Calpheon for instance you will only get the items that were listed in Calpheon. As for prices, 2,200 will hardly ever be the highest for weeds. 

And yet whenever I try to tell people this, they haul out their pitchforks and tell me I'm wrong.

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Wait, people buy weed?

 

Yes. It's even legal in some states.

Kidding aside, it's a basic ingredient in alchemy. Sells at max price pretty much instantly.

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Yes. It's even legal in some states.

Kidding aside, it's a basic ingredient in alchemy. Sells at max price pretty much instantly.

ya I need more weeds man for my alchemy fix..

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Yes. It's even legal in some states.

Kidding aside, it's a basic ingredient in alchemy. Sells at max price pretty much instantly.

You guys won't be happy to hear I always trash my weed then, can't leave any proof.

 

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GM confirmed not region based.

Not true a preorder will buy items listed from any region. 

Here we go again:

1) If you don't get the pre-order and someone else does: you were outbid

2) Whether or not an item is sold through a pre-order or is listed on the marketplace is randomly determined 1 minute after the items are queued (otherwise no one would ever get anything from the marketplace anymore)

3) Pre-orders are not region based

Where/when did GM's confirm that they're not region based?

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There's only a chance that items goes to pre-order. Vast majority of things goes directly to bid and skips the pre-order system. So you also need rng to pre-order.

With really rare items(only 1-3 sold each month) you're better of just trying to make yourself, unless able to wait forever. But with weeds, that's sold all the time, you just need a higher pre-order.

Can also get some fences and plant stuff. You get loads of weed from pruning or killing bugs. If lazy or low on energy, can send workers to the farm and they gather weeds for you. I always have thousands of weeds, because farm.

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ya I need more weeds man for my alchemy fix..

Before I started alchemy, when I was a poor new player, I would sell all my weeds and I had no idea why they were so popular. My friends jokes that I was running a grow op.

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Where/when did GM's confirm that they're not region based?

A number of people have already tested the region based theory and proved it incorrect. For example this person: https://www.reddit.com/r/blackdesertonline/comments/4pppod/how_preorder_works/

You can easily test this yourself with a friend. Just buy-out any common item which is rarely sold and bought on marketplace then have your friend in another region place a pre-order for that item, then list that item a couple of times on the marketplace.

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You can easily test this yourself with a friend. Just buy-out any common item which is rarely sold and bought on marketplace then have your friend in another region place a pre-order for that item, then list that item a couple of times on the marketplace.

That's not how BDO players are doing it. There is no "easy testing yourself", there is only google translating korean forums and copy&paste whatever they found.

Of course anyone can test this in 1 minute and end discussion, but most people can only run one circle in sausan and repeat this a million times, no brain cells for anything else :)

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I have pre-ordered 500 weed and I noticed that no matter how high I set the price (I went up to 2200), I always get notifications that someone else got the weed and not me. Then I started camping the MP and sniping. I noticed that my pre-order is being completely ignored. Batches of 500 weed get posted to MP and sold, while I never get anything. Am I missing something here?

There is around a 20-25% chance the posted items get listed as Pre-Order.
The fact someone else wins the Pre-Order is because they outbid you.
You think 2200 Silver is a lot, but if you think that Logs Pre-Orders are going for 35K each, 2.2K doesn't seem much.

 

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