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PSA: Do not roll Berserker. Source: 1st ever 61 Zerk & day 1 veteran

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Hello. Today I will tell you a story, the story of the Giant / Berserker in BDO. Many of you are unaware, so it is important to know.

Since day 1 of the game, the class has been vastly underpowered. You wouldn't believe who weak we were for the first couple of months. Our main methods of killing someone back then was to do 10-combo grab chains. Endless grab chains. Eventually, around May 2016, we got a couple of buffs. Things were looking up, we had a future. The buffs came and went many times. At the end of the day, we were still vastly relying on grab chains pre-awakening. Yes, there were the top 1% of Zerkers that knew how to play their class and rarely used grab chains. But they are the exception, not the rule.

For the longest time, the hope was that our awakening would be "our saving". That it would fix our horrible damage. That we WOULDN'T have to grab chain to death. That we were something MORE than Damage Sponges.

Awakenings came, we were buffed. Then nerfed. We are now back to grab chains and being huge damage sponges, with mediocre CC and tank abilities. The story of Berserker / Giant is one of pointlessness. It seems like we will never get away from grab chains. Imagine you have been using the exact same combo for almost a year to kill people. It gets old, doesn't it? We get buffed, only to be nerfed shortly after. And we then resort to the good ole grab chains. We should NOT have to use grab chains or BWS anymore. Like ever. It is a sad state.

Dear Zerkers, I'm afraid we will always be doomed to grab chains and being damage sponges.

As a day 1 player, and the first level 61 Zerk on NA (Drafunx), it is safe to say that this class has no future. 

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Wow great post. I'm sure that you've not only convinced people to stop FOTMing berserkers as a 1v1 class, but you've also convinced the developers that zerker needs serious buffs. Bravo. 

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agree on everything

 

 

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But that new costume tho O.o

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Are you for real? :D

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i think most people play zerker for the style of the class not to be OP.

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"Our class is so -----ing OP with our endless grab chains that have no counterplay that it gets boring and nothing else is viable".

Yeah, we know. As a fellow player that has to suffer through your mindless, skillless Guitar Hero combo that no resistance can resist (because 80% stacked resists+multihit grabs lel), there's only one thing I can say. Reroll something else. Something that requires skill and is less boring and stop your pathetic irrestible desync'd grab chains that ruin the fun, 1v1, smallscale and the whole game in general.

You want variety? You want to be able to rely on something else other than grabs? You think they will let you get godly damage AND 5 grabs? The only class with that is Wizard (highest damage in the game, most tanky after buffs, double teleport,100% heals and now super armor'd AoE bound from staff to reduce risk of self-heal to 0, along with super armor'd weapon switch and pet summon super armor)

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"Our class is so -----ing OP with our endless grab chains that have no counterplay that it gets boring and nothing else is viable".

Yeah, we know. As a fellow player that has to suffer through your mindless, skillless Guitar Hero combo that no resistance can resist (because 80% stacked resists+multihit grabs lel), there's only one thing I can say. Reroll something else. Something that requires skill and is less boring and stop your pathetic irrestible desync'd grab chains that ruin the fun, 1v1, smallscale and the whole game in general.

You want variety? You want to be able to rely on something else other than grabs? You think they will let you get godly damage AND 5 grabs? The only class with that is Wizard (highest damage in the game, most tanky after buffs, double teleport,100% heals and now super armor'd AoE bound from staff to reduce risk of self-heal to 0, along with super armor'd weapon switch and pet summon super armor)

Yeah, you did not understand OP. Guy wants to play w/o grabs and you insult him for using grabs. Are you for real? :D

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9621b57df099229f779f1404d12e9b8e.gif

Many grab chains.

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Mediocre CC...?

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Yeah, you did not understand OP. Guy wants to play w/o grabs and you insult him for using grabs. Are you for real? :D

No, I did not. I said grabs are foken OP and pathetic. Then I told him, that they CAN NOT give Zerker more damage or other tools, because they'd need to remove grabs. In the current state of Zerker, giving them anything in terms of damage or CC would completely break that already broken class. Class was made grab reliant. They can't just give them more CC so that people can play without grabs, because using grabs+skills for people that don't want grabs=broken shit. Unless they make them "choose". 4 grabs in pre-awakening form or damage/other CCs in awakening. One or the other. Not both at the same time.
 

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Welcome to the Berserker class, this is our play style they won't change it, they would have to rework the whole class the end.

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9621b57df099229f779f1404d12e9b8e.gif

Many grab chains.

I know Berserkers can hit hard, but

1. Zerker's AP?
2. Zerker's accuracy? Kutum/Red Coral?
3. Hebe has more evasion and less DR than other armors, your offhand has ONE damage reduction. You have full evasion on yourself. It does NOTHING against classes with high accuracy/higher level/high accuracy % in skills. IIRC Zerkers have enough accuracy. Only Kuno and Musa need additional acc.

Meanwhile I'm sitting at "pleb" TET Heve, "pleb" Kutum and "pleb" TET Red Coral Rings/Earrings with 206/208/312 and I tank 200 AP Wizard's 100% after getting grabbed, 5 grab Zerker chains with pots and I can just laugh at everyone with less than 210 AP other than warriors (because +26 AP takes them way over my damage reduction so it's useless...). Hell, I can block 100% of 60 Wiz with 200 AP and still have 5-15 block left. xD

Evasion offhand works against zergs where lots of undergeared/underleveled people fight alongside heavyhitters. It works like a charm against zergs, it doesn't work at all against people with accuracy. You might as well run without that offhand and in DUO Grunil. No wonder he killed you so fast with 50% bonus from Back Attack and 50% bonus from Down Attack.

PS. Considering today's "datamined" data, my previous assumptions were correct and don't worry, I'm not THAT pleb, I have TRI Hebe and Giath, just never went TET on them because they turned out to be shitty against high accuracy players. Now I can safely sell this shit. Kept them so that in Kamasylve I can slow +5 accuracy gem in gloves, but ----- it. Difference is too significant. EZ 800m for PEN tries on my Heve XDDDD

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9621b57df099229f779f1404d12e9b8e.gif

Many grab chains.

 i would liek to know his gear also,if you could provide thanks

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 i would liek to know his gear also,if you could provide thanks

196 AP with red coral earrings and saiyer.

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Hello. Today I will tell you a story, the story of the Giant / Berserker in BDO. Many of you are unaware, so it is important to know.

Since day 1 of the game, the class has been vastly underpowered. You wouldn't believe who weak we were for the first couple of months. Our main methods of killing someone back then was to do 10-combo grab chains. Endless grab chains. Eventually, around May 2016, we got a couple of buffs. Things were looking up, we had a future. The buffs came and went many times. At the end of the day, we were still vastly relying on grab chains pre-awakening. Yes, there were the top 1% of Zerkers that knew how to play their class and rarely used grab chains. But they are the exception, not the rule.

For the longest time, the hope was that our awakening would be "our saving". That it would fix our horrible damage. That we WOULDN'T have to grab chain to death. That we were something MORE than Damage Sponges.

Awakenings came, we were buffed. Then nerfed. We are now back to grab chains and being huge damage sponges, with mediocre CC and tank abilities. The story of Berserker / Giant is one of pointlessness. It seems like we will never get away from grab chains. Imagine you have been using the exact same combo for almost a year to kill people. It gets old, doesn't it? We get buffed, only to be nerfed shortly after. And we then resort to the good ole grab chains. We should NOT have to use grab chains or BWS anymore. Like ever. It is a sad state.

Dear Zerkers, I'm afraid we will always be doomed to grab chains and being damage sponges.

As a day 1 player, and the first level 61 Zerk on NA (Drafunx), it is safe to say that this class has no future. 

Mediocre CCs? LOL. Anyone that ever touched siege will tell u how wrong u are.

Medicore tank abilities? LOL. Anyone that ever touched siege will tell you how wrong you are.

 

Wtf is this meme thread? Giant does just as much dmg as other classes, just not burst. First 61... but seems like you're a bad player anyway.

 

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196 AP with red coral earrings and saiyer.

wow really? i have 214ap with kutum and x5 ap crsytals with x2 RCE and im sure icant come close to this damage lol,

 

what buffs,etc? did he use 100% black spirit rage?

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Hello. Today I will tell you a story, the story of the Giant / Berserker in BDO. Many of you are unaware, so it is important to know.

Since day 1 of the game, the class has been vastly underpowered. You wouldn't believe who weak we were for the first couple of months. Our main methods of killing someone back then was to do 10-combo grab chains. Endless grab chains. Eventually, around May 2016, we got a couple of buffs. Things were looking up, we had a future. The buffs came and went many times. At the end of the day, we were still vastly relying on grab chains pre-awakening. Yes, there were the top 1% of Zerkers that knew how to play their class and rarely used grab chains. But they are the exception, not the rule.

For the longest time, the hope was that our awakening would be "our saving". That it would fix our horrible damage. That we WOULDN'T have to grab chain to death. That we were something MORE than Damage Sponges.

Awakenings came, we were buffed. Then nerfed. We are now back to grab chains and being huge damage sponges, with mediocre CC and tank abilities. The story of Berserker / Giant is one of pointlessness. It seems like we will never get away from grab chains. Imagine you have been using the exact same combo for almost a year to kill people. It gets old, doesn't it? We get buffed, only to be nerfed shortly after. And we then resort to the good ole grab chains. We should NOT have to use grab chains or BWS anymore. Like ever. It is a sad state.

Dear Zerkers, I'm afraid we will always be doomed to grab chains and being damage sponges.

As a day 1 player, and the first level 61 Zerk on NA (Drafunx), it is safe to say that this class has no future. 

so knowing how to play your class and NOT relying on grab chains to still kill somebody means your class is weak because people who dont know how to play their class rely on the grab chains... sound logic.

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wow really? i have 214ap with kutum and x5 ap crsytals with x2 RCE and im sure icant come close to this damage lol,

 

what buffs,etc? did he use 100% black spirit rage?

Alchemy stone, black tea, no 100% rage. If you play on EU you can whisper him yourself. Name is Necrophilia.

I have posted a similar GIF to this one before and I was accused of lying about my DP and the berserkers gear. All I have to say to that is accuracy is underrated, and stop living in denial.

Further I can add that I am level 60 and the berserker in the GIF is 59.

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Alchemy stone, black tea, no 100% rage. If you play on EU you can whisper him yourself. Name is Necrophilia.

I know the guy, great zerker, but he has more AP than that if I remember correctly. He hits like a truck, true but he has high AP, for a zerker.

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I know the guy, great zerker, but he has more AP than that if I remember correctly. He hits like a truck, true but he has high AP, for a zerker.

If he equips his AP gear, yes. But he wasn't in this GIF. :-)

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Maybe OP spent too much time in PvE to know what to do in PvP

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From what i remeber this guy who made the thread,has full ap and no accuracy,also seen him a few times on  a stream,no offence but he did not look good compared to the other good giants that i have seen,he relies on grabs too much and does not use super armour cycle from skills well.(just my opinion)

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If the lag/desync issues werent still so pronounced I feel I could be alot more effective with my berserker.

 

That said, having played berserker since week 2 of release Im "ok" with where we're at. It sucks not having a huge burning ult to beat people over the head with... But locking down a group while a friend/guildie does it is pretty satisfying. 

 

I would like to see DP be a little more viable vs AP tho. 

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This sounds more like someone who wants to be able to play a class according to their "class fantasy". 

We got dez healz, so what if we lack a little deepz

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