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Do you try to 1% or filthy casual?

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I spent a lot of time playing pre-kunoichi. And after that I spent a lot of time grinding to 60. I've played in bursts. But after I got 60 I've barely grinded any at all. And most my upgrades came after that time. So no I've not played it hard core at all. But when I grind I do it efficiently.

I earn around 20-30m an hour grinding. And I earn a lot from afk activities too.

Just cause you don't know how to be efficient in the game that does not mean others don't know.

I know life skillers that are better greared than even me that mostly do afk activities. Don't underestimate what you can do as a casual as long as you can keep you PC on.

 

Exactly this.  ^^

i wish i knew this magical 20mil per hour spot people keep bragging about 

 

 

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I play casually.

  • I've played casually since launch
  • I make 10-30mil a day AFK fishing and Crafting.
  • I often can't be bothered to even do the Half hour Daily Grind thing
  • I have 4 characters at level 56. None of whom are higher than 20% of the way to 57
  • I have 258cp and 289 energy

I don't put time or effort into finding these fabled super-duper grindspots where I can get to level 60 in a couple of minutes or where I can earn 20mil in half an hour.
That seems distinctly non-casual. Planning uber efficient things, and setting up large networks is almost by definition, not casual.

I'm aware I could have a few of my character notably higher in level. Some of my guildmates have gone from 56 to 58 in a week or two, with 2 or 3 hours a day. So with that half hour only, I could get there in maybe 6 weeks, and 60 could "easily" be done in 20 weeks or so.

But that would require me to actively go out and find (read: ask my Guild / google) somewhere to grind efficiently. I'm too casual for that. ;) 

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I am casual just play maybe 2 hours a day or less sometimes I might not play all.

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This system is utter garbage. I mean i am willing to put in the time to get to 56, but 57? You could ----- off if you'd think that i would even spend a single second to reach it. And then you come to the realization that not only will the mindless, tedious, and utterly boring grind continues to 60 after reaching level 56, it will only keep going up AND up AND UP after every expasion. This is silk road's online level of terrible of grinding level's, i mean it could take 4-6 month's or a year to reach max level but at least you could use a bot legally. 

From my obervation, this will never change, the endless grinding  is just a thing to cover up the lack of end game content. At least you got raiding and dungeons in vanilia wow after spending months of leveling , which does not take in the amount of content avaible to players while leveling, but in this game, what is their to offer? Ganking players? Playing a poorly balanced pvp system that favours those who have made this game their job? Or doing scrolls that give you gear so you can do more endless grinding?

 

Truth be told i was going to reach level 56 and stop grinding and play casual. Exploring the world and messing around with the node sytem, but then i realized that they increased the cap to 60, and this has utterly destroyed my motivation to play this game. If you compare this game to legion, in where i have not really gotten into mythic pluses yet, only done 3 heroic bosses into night hold, and after the best exprience i have ever had in a mmo "Doing the kara dungeon" they are already releasing a new dungeon  and another raid "which looks amazing". While wow is pouring out new content, to the point to where players are telling them to slow down, this game has nothing to offer than, you got it, MORE GRIDING!

 

Really want this game to do well. hell, its the only mmo that has gotten close to giving me the  feels i had when playing wow, the burning crusade back in 2007. Saddening to see it go down this route.

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@Hollenhund I completely get where you're coming from. I've always preferred games to have an achievable end game, when I found out Black Desert doesn't, I almost didn't bother buying a founder pack.

But, the pros far outweigh the cons, imo.

I came in knowing there was no chance somebody like me would ever be able compete "properly", and just enjoy spending time with my guild, and some casual Life Skilling instead. It's somewhat disheartening to know the combat side of the game is almost entirely out of my reach, but I told myself from the beginning I was okay with that.

Simply means I can't PvP, or ever play half of Valencia, or anything that came after.

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Heres a graph that explains the leveling process from a post back at the launch.

lvlgrinds.png.aeef23736e7c0fb2a97c11ae00208209.png

 

 

To be honest i could not care about pvp, i thought all of the game's content will be at level 56 and i could explore other expasions and not worry about high level mobs, believing that players grinding for 60 are just fat neck beards"trigger warning" that spend 24 hours a day, 7 days a week grinding level 56 mobs none stop, but it was not untel today that this belief was proven wrong.

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@Hollenhund, Yeah past 56 I believe the XP requirement just doubles per level....

Whatever the rate is, it's beyond what I'm willing to try and do right now. Again, it's not tricky. It's just mind numbingly tedious. And when there's so many other things in the game I enjoy doing, it's tricky to motivate myself to walk in a circle, even just for half an hour a day.

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Whoa, im a hardcore noob, I struggle to make 6 m/h, and grinding ;c

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The true secret to happiness in this game: 49.999%

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i wish i knew this magical 20mil per hour spot people keep bragging about 

 

gahaz early in morning... SImple as that ;p Also i know some ppl who do gahaz and cadry elites in same time (with two characters logged in both spots)...

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30 million and hour grinding .... I wonder why we are all not grinding 30 million an hour 😂

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Taking it slow made the game more fun for me

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Ive found since ive been back everyone is treating and "playing" this game like its a job. Investing hundreds of hours and billions of silver on 5% chances of successful tet and pen enchantments and reaching level 60+.

Ending up with grey hairs, sore eyes, hateful elitist attitudes, and a general loathing of the game but feeling the need to recoup losses(time &money) by doing the samething over and over again until they are ready to stab someones mother with a pelicans beak then rage quitting all for sake of trying to be "competitive" in a PvP game that is not even properly balanced to truly give all your hardwork the payoff and bragging rights you deserve for your perseverance.

Is this truly a enjoyable game experience for every one of you reaching to be the best 1 or even top 10%? To know you can spend billions of silver and tens or hundreds of hours only to see something you worked so hard on to fail and total invalidate all your investment?

I am a casual, i was a hardcore player of MMO's until i realised i actually enjoy what the game is and whats in it alot more when i take a breath and realize that i would rather be in the bottom 1% and enjoy my time spent in game 90% of the time rather than be in top 1% and enjoy my time spent in game 10% of the time.

Please remember to enjoy the game and PLAY instead of just "working" the game to enjoy it.

It is after all a game.

 

Happy Gaming.

This! I havnt been grinding mobs since october now (stopped short of lev 58 and 200/250 and 2 month break included) and instead enjoy my sailboat with guildies and some Hotspot fishin. Filthy casual all the way ;)

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Heres a graph that explains the leveling process from a post back at the launch.

lvlgrinds.png.aeef23736e7c0fb2a97c11ae00208209.png

 

 

To be honest i could not care about pvp, i thought all of the game's content will be at level 56 and i could explore other expasions and not worry about high level mobs, believing that players grinding for 60 are just fat neck beards"trigger warning" that spend 24 hours a day, 7 days a week grinding level 56 mobs none stop, but it was not untel today that this belief was proven wrong.

Funny thing is....im the one that made that graph. lol

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Funny thing is....im the one that made that graph. lol

Such elitist drawing skill there ლ(ó ³òლ)

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Such elitist drawing skill there ლ(ó ³òლ)

IKR, my drawing/graphing skills have no equal. lol.

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Back at launch I took a week off of work to power level to 50 and get decent gear, played every single day from after work until bed time, and usually 20+ hours over the weekend.  Wasn't healthy at all.  Played that way until about August, and then took a break.  Just recently got back into the game and now playing as a filthy casual.

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So I run a casual guild.  I think a lot of you use the term casual very poorly. Level 58 would be playing the game casually, level 60+ is hardcore.  You have to grind a little bit in the game, I mean I guess you don't have to but then what are you even making money for in the game?  Its like if you played WoW an all you did was ERP.  That isn't playing WoW casually.   

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So I run a casual guild.  I think a lot of you use the term casual very poorly. Level 58 would be playing the game casually, level 60+ is hardcore.  You have to grind a little bit in the game, I mean I guess you don't have to but then what are you even making money for in the game?  Its like if you played WoW an all you did was ERP.  That isn't playing WoW casually.   

I dont think the end goal is what makes a player hardcore, its the journey and playstyle in which they reach that goal is.

I can easily see casual players who know how to optimize their play time well and/or focus on a specific element/task being a "high level"(gear, life skill, level etc etc) without falling into the hardcore group. Especially with all the various xp boosts/potions & foods we get in game these days.

I also think it is or can be temporary. I can take a week off from work and hardcore for that week and then after that go back to my casual style of play.

You could argue and debate however if taking time off/vacation to play a game regardless of duration puts you in the hardcore bracket though, which i think is the entire debate currently.

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What if people are having fun by working the game? Not directed at you, but I've never understood why people in this forum get so angry over how someone else has fun? 

Truth spoken above ^^^^^. If you let others define your fun, you may find it impossible to have any. I alone decide what I like in game and I do those activities until I tire of them. This game is great in that it has so many varied activities to keep you interested. 

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Good post.  I use to obsess and make idols out of MMO progression but now i just play. However or whatever that looks like to me. If i get home from work and decide to not even login, thats ok. Or, if i get home and decide to go to an area and kill some beast for a while thats fine too and on the way if i get some silver and experience points, well cool. Lately, ive been caught by surprise when i even level from 52-56 now. 

Levels can be evidence of a game well played or levels can be a goal that is never met as the game just flashes by

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Please remember to enjoy the game and PLAY instead of just "working" the game to enjoy it.

It is after all a game.

Not everyone thinks like you and conversely, you don't have a right to tell people how they should be doing their shit.
Now I do agree with you but that's my opinion.

Not everyone treats everything like the majority of others seem to treat things. A lot of us are different, sorry if it's a new concept. To some of us, this isn't a game.
Whether or not you find that right  or healthy or whatever, is your own shit, but no one has a right to talk down to anyone becuase of how they do their crap unless it's having an effect on their own shit.

I get where you're coming from, and that's great. But I just thought I'd remind you, again, iirc- Not everyone thinks like you. Not everyone lives like you. Not everyone has the same history or experience as you do, so don't assume that your shit can ever apply "Easily" or as "Simply" to someone else.
That's ignorant.

 

That being said, i take the game slow. Enchant when i feel like it, run a second set of gear, etc. But that's me. I wouldn't expect or hold it to anyone else to do what i'm doing because that is how i do my own shit.

I'm me son. You're you. Ima do me, you do you, let other mothers do them.
Because remember.

It's just life. 

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There's this certain type of casuals that makes me so annoyed tho lol.

The ones that think "having fun" must mean to aimlessly walk around in a big pixelled world, preferably getting lost, dying to NPC's while laughing and RPG'ing about it all while not caring about a single thing. The very second you stop doing that and start to care about anything from character progression to personal goals, you're apparently not having fun any more? 

A lot of people need a sense of sense of accomplishment, progression, perfection or competition to feel the fun. It's that simple. For some it's a personality trait and they're like that with everything they do. For others it's a gaming behaviour mainly. But they would all get bored and likely quit if they had to play to "have fun" as in the cringe-casuals definition of what fun is.

Anyway, I think one of the cool things about BDO is the diversity when it comes to progression. You dont have to be all about max levels and gear to get some competition. You can work towards becoming servers nr1 fisher or cook and focus on that, if it's more your playstyle than slaying mobs.

 

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casual! and not even enough time to do that really at this point.  Other games coming out, other projects to work on.

but  I find time here and there to casual it up for a bit. fun stuff.

Outside of the first two weeks, i haven't used the daily xp buff but about 5 -10 times. Thats how casual I am.  Game will be around a long time I'm sure.  No rush.

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Super Cazz.

Play 1-2hours a day.
Afk the rest.
Make no money per day.
Hoard all the things.
Stare at my hot pixelated booty.

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