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BDO Datamined DP stats - Just show us AP, DP, Evasion and ACC on char sheet

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With the amount of effort necessary to get a PEN item, you don't think it would be unethical to swap it's stats to something completely different and not allowing players some type of refund? 

they never officially stated the  DR or evasion numbers.  So not their fault.  Got info from shady sources.  Not their bad.

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You have been here long enough to know how shitty this company is so why bother thinking they wouldn't do something so shady. :(

cuz I'm an extreme nerd and I can recognize my fellow extreme nerds. And BDO employees are also extreme nerds. They too have spent inordinate amounts of time on their characters. Big changes like this would ----- them over just as hard as us. So I don't think they would make major stat changes on items that take AGES to get


They may have insider insight on what items have what exact stats, but I don't think they would change items to have different stats. 

they never officially stated the  DR or evasion numbers.  So not their fault.  Got info from shady sources.  Not their bad.

the implication of @CM_Aethon's post is a misdirection. Like I said, I'm ok with information behind withheld by Devs, but the moment u comment on it and affect the direction of the conversation you better not mislead people. 

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cuz I'm an extreme nerd and I can recognize my fellow extreme nerds. And BDO employees are also extreme nerds. They too have spent inordinate amounts of time on their characters. Big changes like this would ----- them over just as hard as us. So I don't think they would make major stat changes on items that take AGES to get


They may have insider insight on what items have what exact stats, but I don't think they would change items to have different stats. 

What employee working for them has put in as much time in this game as you? You have been here from the start, and at the start none of their employees bothered to play the game. Like that one guy that just got to level 10. They have never known anything about the game they are suppose to manage. Hell we still can't even get patch notes that are correct. I think you give them too much credit. That or they are just filthy casuals. :o

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the implication of @CM_Aethon's post is a misdirection. Like I said, I'm ok with information behind withheld by Devs, but the moment u comment on it and affect the direction of the conversation you better not mislead people. 

 Maybe its not misdirection, maybe its sound advice you refuse to accept. 

and stop taking this stuff so seriously. only thing worth this energy is the  DK thighs, nom nom nom.

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I know who Jouska is.....

That was a sarcastic Question. ^^

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Someone lock this shit omg.

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I like how they claim the information is heavily outdated, yet the datamining clearly showed items that are new to the Korean client (ie: the new kama earrings and the boss helmet) :thinking:

Seems like Kakao damage control

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I know who Jouska is.....

That was a sarcastic Question. ^^

I thought my answer was very stupid to be legitm :(

Im losting myself

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Since you guys still seem interested, heres all the data that was in the game files compiled into one spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B125I0S82DXHLqXgYMRVM2Wj6rNIR2YGzFHldeOr_Lw/edit#gid=2122767195

GM Aethon appears to be just making assumptions about the validity of the data, I doubt theyre actually trying to cover things up. At the very least it seems accurate, the game files didnt include this stuff a couple weeks ago, and it includes all new items from Margoria and Kamasylvia, so I think its a safe bet. None the less, better to draw your own conclusions from the data.

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Meanwhile in Kashkow West Headquarters.

 

Kashkow 2.0.jpg

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Since you guys still seem interested, heres all the data that was in the game files compiled into one spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B125I0S82DXHLqXgYMRVM2Wj6rNIR2YGzFHldeOr_Lw/edit#gid=2122767195

GM Aethon appears to be just making assumptions about the validity of the data, it seems accurate, the game files didnt include this stuff a couple weeks ago, and it includes all new items from Margoria and Kamasylvia, so I think its a safe bet. None the less, better to draw your own conclusions from the data.

Oh my, that's quite a list but seems like something to make a nice reference to.

EDIT: Would be nice to see an translation for most of the items here (thought it's a pretty big list) from Korean to English so it's easier to use as a reference.

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This is irrelevant, but notice how jouska has the time to like comments but hasn't posted since December :o

seriously. what the fk did that "like" even mean?!? Does that mean the data was incorrect? 

 

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What does that "like" even mean is a fair question.  What that specific "like" means is, I asked CM Aethon to reply back to the thread explaining that client side data is only a portion of the equation which in turn can be misleading or even outdated.  When someone digs through the client files they are bound to see all kinds of information, files, images etc, the issue with this process is the sheer one sided nature.  I can say I admire the tenacity shown for this discussion, and I am sure it will be interesting to see what other discoveries are made.  That being said we do not have any additional insight to offer you in reference to the game's statistical calculations, instead you are urged to take anything you read from non-official sources with a grain of salt.

Now that that is out of the way, I have to agree I am not as active on the forums as I once was, although I still read them daily.  As always it is a pleasure to see such lively discussions, the forums are still without a doubt the most contested grinding spot.

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I still read them daily.  

My condolences. 

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You are still alive :o 

Then, provide us all real information :D  Its not like there is nearly one year back ppl was requesting more real data over somes stuff on the game ^^

 

Still dont get why devs want players be in the dark for so many things but yeah.. ^^

 

 

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You are still alive :o 

Then, provide us all real information :D  Its not like there is nearly one year back ppl was requesting more real data over somes stuff on the game ^^

 

Still dont get why devs want players be in the dark for so many things but yeah.. ^^

 

 

so they spend more money buying shit they dont need to test it out

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OH so @CM_Aethon just posted "lol be careful that might be wrong lolol xdxdxd" but it was complete bullshit? 

that would be even more outrageous. 

Sadly,i think thats exactly what happened,seems like an attempt to throw ppl off :<

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so they spend more money buying shit they dont need to test it out

what ? sorry dont get your answer :o

 

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what ? sorry dont get your answer :o

 

If you dont tell people what is bis people have to keep buying gear to test it out, go from rce to witches, or trees to basilisk, swapping out gear, khutum vs nouver vs rosar.  the more gear you have to buy and level the more artisans etc you buy.  If everyone just knew what BiS was they would make less money.

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If you dont tell people what is bis people have to keep buying gear to test it out, go from rce to witches, or trees to basilisk, swapping out gear, khutum vs nouver vs rosar.  the more gear you have to buy and level the more artisans etc you buy.  If everyone just knew what BiS was they would make less money.

yeah i figured out what you were talking about after posting my reply xD

well yeah, that could make sense even more since there isnt any real "gear diversity" but just a gear treadmill.

 

Even tho for the acc dont need p2w artisans mem

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yeah i figured out what you were talking about after posting my reply xD

well yeah, that could make sense even more since there isnt any real "gear diversity" but just a gear treadmill.

 

Even tho for the acc dont need p2w artisans mem

True but to get those big stacks you're usually blowing up boss gear or something you can resell which you are probably using artisans for to keep the costs reasonable.  I have paid more for artisans than I did for years of wow subs while I was playing.  109 and a 87 stack with every character stacked with 49+ fail stacks and not a tet to show for it.

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True but to get those big stacks you're usually blowing up boss gear or something you can resell which you are probably using artisans for to keep the costs reasonable.  I have paid more for artisans than I did for years of wow subs while I was playing.  109 and a 87 stack with every character stacked with 49+ fail stacks and not a tet to show for it.

true true.

Well yeah the way they rule their buisiness / bound way too much -"game mechanic"- to the cash shop is one of the worse i've seen in years.

They are sneaky enough to have many ppl fall for it, and even better, defend them, AND they are expensive AF 9_9

 

Too bad that's not more decent ppl managing the game tho :(

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If you dont tell people what is bis people have to keep buying gear to test it out, go from rce to witches, or trees to basilisk, swapping out gear, khutum vs nouver vs rosar.  the more gear you have to buy and level the more artisans etc you buy.  If everyone just knew what BiS was they would make less money.

TThis is also why character balances switches so much. One day, warrior is garbage and people want him buffed, anothr day hes king and wrecking people. Forcing people to reroll .Thereby selling more customs, inventory expensions and ect. Fastfoward a couple of months ahead, wix and witch are some of the worst classes forcing them to reroll or quit. Then they become becom the new OP characters (wizard) making peole wanna reroll again. That why character speific outfits are class only. So if you reroll, you have to rebuy it

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I dont see why they hide stats it just takes so much away from the competitive side of the game (what little of it there is with class balances lol).  Alot of people love diving into stuff like this and making builds to do specific things to fight a certain way .  Why take that from players?  We get it the devs want characters to be unique... but really they aren't everyone wears the same things lol..

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Meanwhile in Kashkow West Headquarters.

 

Kashkow 2.0.jpg

Hahahaha, I love this. :D 

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Stats like damage reduction and evasion should be splitted. That is completely retarded design when players have no idea if they stack evasion stats or damage reduction  - it is completely different thing.

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